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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
January 05 2010 09:32 GMT
#41
On January 05 2010 18:23 thopol wrote:
A player has a certain degree of inherent talent. Their skill also depends an immense deal on the practicing they do and the environment in which they do it. It is very difficult to estimate how well a player will do when switching teams in my (extremely limited) experience. Sure, the level they play at prior to the switch will give a good indicator of their style and general ability, but players often exhibit big shifts after the team switch. SaiR could find his place on the Stars and really improve. He could benefit from different practice partners and coaches. He could benefit from different physical circumstances and a different environment. Then again, he might not.

Another thing to consider is that he will bring with him his own style, knowledge of his previous teammates, and expertise on the game. These factors will always be beneficial to a team. If nothing else, he will be an extremely valued practice partner and a helpful voice.

Also, as an aside, while reading about Woongjin Terrans I was reminded of the wonderful series between Piano (Organ at the time?) and BackHo in GOM season 3. Those games were really kickass.

you know backho had stolen some of Shuttle GOM super powers.
Backho allways made it deep into gom (BUt he ran into a Back injury and a god of war (aka July)) And even made july have a run for his money in game 2 on Garden of God
In the woods, there lurks..
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 05 2010 09:35 GMT
#42
uh.. i don't know sair... and i don't expect to know sair in the future. good luck to him anyways.
Brood War loyalist
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
January 05 2010 09:45 GMT
#43
... yay. Again, why didn't we take Shine when he was a free agent? I can't imagine he was too expensive. Anyway hope the new inviorment brings out all of Sair's potential. gl.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
January 05 2010 10:23 GMT
#44
I've been waiting for GanZi, PianO, and MVP to rape shit up for ages ¬ ¬ Guess i'll have to wait a while longer.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 05 2010 10:31 GMT
#45
On January 05 2010 18:32 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2010 18:23 thopol wrote:
A player has a certain degree of inherent talent. Their skill also depends an immense deal on the practicing they do and the environment in which they do it. It is very difficult to estimate how well a player will do when switching teams in my (extremely limited) experience. Sure, the level they play at prior to the switch will give a good indicator of their style and general ability, but players often exhibit big shifts after the team switch. SaiR could find his place on the Stars and really improve. He could benefit from different practice partners and coaches. He could benefit from different physical circumstances and a different environment. Then again, he might not.

Another thing to consider is that he will bring with him his own style, knowledge of his previous teammates, and expertise on the game. These factors will always be beneficial to a team. If nothing else, he will be an extremely valued practice partner and a helpful voice.

Also, as an aside, while reading about Woongjin Terrans I was reminded of the wonderful series between Piano (Organ at the time?) and BackHo in GOM season 3. Those games were really kickass.

you know backho had stolen some of Shuttle GOM super powers.
Backho allways made it deep into gom (BUt he ran into a Back injury and a god of war (aka July)) And even made july have a run for his money in game 2 on Garden of God

I respond to this knowing it is off-topic (I'm sorry, BackHo is my favorite player).
I totally know. I really dig the YoonJoong GOM stuff too, as an STX fan of course. BackHo seems to have at least as good of a GOM blessing though. I think it was season 3 in which BackHo had some shuttle/reaver micro against Stork that was pretty much out of this world. He took stork out in both season 2 and 3, which speaks volumes for what he can accomplish when he is playing at his full micro potential.

If anyone hasn't seen those GOM games between BackHo and Organ you should see them. I think it was game 2 that was the most spectacular, and wholly worth drooling over.
Slugbreath
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden201 Posts
January 05 2010 12:19 GMT
#46
They need to let GanZi play more! (But that might just be my inner fanboy speaking.)
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