From a fomos post.
As far as I know, they consider results from April 08 to mid-November 09
(listed flash then fantasy)
Individual Leagues:
(flash bacchus win not included?)
Ever 08: Ro8 v prelims
Arena: Ro4 v Ro32
Incruit: Ro8 v silver
Club day: Ro32 v Ro 32
Batoo: Ro16 v silver
Lost saga: Ro16 v Ro32
Bacchus09: Ro16 v Ro4
Avalon: Ro16 v Ro16
Ever09: Ro16 in progress v Ro16 in progress
Nate: Ro32 in progress v prelims

Proleague:
08: Most wins, MVP v nothing
08-09: most wins v finals MVP
08 winrate (after April): 17-8 (68%) v 1-4 (25%)
08-09 winrate: 54-19 (74%) v 35-24 (59%)

Head to head: Flash leads 3-2

The rest of that image is like winrates in 08 after April, 09, and in 08-09

I heard that proleague is given more weight, and I think I heard somewhere that Gom is actually considered in this so Flash has an individual league win
So I think it's pretty clear that Flash should win

konadora

Singapore66358 Posts

December 05 2009 02:29 GMT

#62

On December 05 2009 11:24 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
On the issue of Flash v Fantasy
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[img]http://fomos.kr/gnuboard4/data/file/esports_free_09/2041625530_34035765_C0CCBFB5C8A3BFCD%2BC1A4B8EDC8C62%2BBAB9BBE7.jpg[/img

lol i love this image

Jyvblamo

Canada13788 Posts

December 05 2009 02:39 GMT

#63

Here's a handy statistic for those that can't decide between Stork and Bisu for best protoss:
Since September 1st, 2008 Stork's winning percentage is 59.86%, with 88 wins and 59 losses.
In the same time frame, Bisu's winning percentage is 72.00% with 126 wins and 49 losses.

How is there even the slightest doubt that Bisu should be getting this award? I think that recent performances are weighing far too heavily on many people's minds. It's as if the past month completely erases the past year.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

December 05 2009 02:43 GMT

#64

On December 05 2009 11:39 Jyvblamo wrote:
Here's a handy statistic for those that can't decide between Stork and Bisu for best protoss:
Since September 1st, 2008 Stork's winning percentage is 59.86%, with 88 wins and 59 losses.
In the same time frame, Bisu's winning percentage is 72.00% with 126 wins and 49 losses.

How is there even the slightest doubt that Bisu should be getting this award? I think that recent performances are weighing far too heavily on many people's minds. It's as if the past month completely erases the past year.

Not to mention the past month shouldn't even count. Just as the MBC coach's achievements count toward the 09-10 season, so do Stork's achievements. The award is supposed to be for the 08-09 season, and Stork wasn't showing signs of renewed dominance until WCG Korea, a month after proleague ended and just after MSL/OSL ended (even there he got soundly 2-0ed by Bisu).

nonduc

Russian Federation405 Posts

December 05 2009 02:47 GMT

#65

In 08-09 season Stork won the Starleague.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

December 05 2009 02:49 GMT

#66

On December 05 2009 11:47 nonduc wrote:
In 08-09 season Stork won the Starleague.

So did Bisu, along with GOM (though that technically isn't counted by Kespa. Bisu also didn't slump as soon as the new year started.

Someone needs to do a Bisu v Stork chart in the style of the Flash v Fantasy chart.

EDIT:

Bisu --- Stork
Ever08: Ro16 v Ro16
Arena: Ro32 v Prelims
Incruit: Ro8 v Winner
ClubDay: Winner v Ro8
Batoo: Ro4 v Ro8
Lost Saga: Prelims v Ro32
Bacchus: Ro16 v Ro16
Avalon: Ro8 v Ro32
Ever09: Prelims v Ro16 in Progress
Nate: Ro32 v Ro32

Winrate:
Bisu - 126-49, 72.00%
Stork - 88-59, 59.86%

Head-to-head, 3-3 (5-3 Bisu leads if WCG Korea is included)

Bisu has a convincing lead by the statistics. He's got the higher winrate, the head-to-head performance, and of the counted individual leagues, the better performance (if you count WCG and GOM, his individual league performance is far better). Even if you include Ever09 and the Nate MSL, Stork would have to make it to the Ro4 for you to even be able to consider his individual league to be comparable (and even then, there's still the huge disparity in their general win rates).

Heyoka

Katowice25012 Posts

December 05 2009 02:50 GMT

#67

lol coach cho

nonduc

Russian Federation405 Posts

December 05 2009 02:55 GMT

#68

Bisu never won a Starleague. :D
The Starleague =/= MSL.
MSL isn’t Starleague, it’s MBCGame Starcraft League.
(The Starleague is registered trademark of OnGameNet.)

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

December 05 2009 03:28 GMT

#69

On December 05 2009 11:55 nonduc wrote:
Bisu never won a Starleague. :D
The Starleague =/= MSL.
MSL isn’t Starleague, it’s MBCGame Starcraft League.
(The Starleague is registered trademark of OnGameNet.)

I'm aware of that, but I also figured such a nitpicking distinction is outdated.

GTR

51515 Posts

December 09 2009 11:24 GMT

#70

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Best TV Program
ENG (E-Sports Game)

Best Government Help (?)
Andong Province

Achievement Awards
Go Bong-Hong (Air Force ACE)
(Z)

Khan
Reach

Best Map
Destination

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Best New Game
Avalon Online

Best Sudden Attack Team
esu

Best FIFA Online 2 Player
Kim Gwan-hyung

Best Slugger Player
Seo Seung-deok

Best Warcraft 3 Player
Park Jun (Lyn)

Best Counter-Strike Team
WeMade FOX

konadora

Singapore66358 Posts

December 09 2009 11:28 GMT

#71

Glad to see Lyn on that list

BloodDrunK

Bangladesh2767 Posts

December 09 2009 11:39 GMT

#72

no moon this time.
T_T

FaCE_1

Canada6183 Posts

December 09 2009 11:40 GMT

#73

Best Map: Andromeda

Best Rookie : EffOrt (no contest)

Best Coach: Park Yong Woon (I don't really care about coach in e-sport... so I guess winning PL will give him this)

Best Protoss Player: Bisu (only good toss all around the season)

Best Terran Player: Flash (Best T by far and currently best all-around player by far)

Best Zerg Player:Jaedong (Won 2 OSL.. anything else ?)

Best Player of all games: Jaedong (yes, currently Flash is better but all around the year, Jeadong won2 OSL)