Korean e-Sports Awards 2009 (Dec 9th) - Page 3
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
Even as a biased KT fanboi I must say that he has got to be nominated for sure. | ||
samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On December 05 2009 06:07 Iplaythings wrote: How the hell isn't MBC's coach included? Look what he did to the team who finished 11th. Even as a biased KT fanboi I must say that he has got to be nominated for sure. The seasons used for these events are fall of the previous year to the end of the summer of this year.Its weird, but if they wanted to do a proper ranking they'd do it after the fall season. So technically his good run this season does not count, only MBC's failure the previous PL year counts | ||
Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On December 05 2009 06:07 Iplaythings wrote: How the hell isn't MBC's coach included? Look what he did to the team who finished 11th. Even as a biased KT fanboi I must say that he has got to be nominated for sure. This should only be concerning the 2008-2009 Proleague run and last two or three SL seasons though, so it's not really relevant. EDIT: Too late... | ||
a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Flash'll take the next one, though, considering Fantasy is playing like garbage this season and Flash is, well, Flash again. 8) | ||
ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
Best Map: Heart Break Ridge Best Rookie: Effort Best Coach: Kim Eun Dong Best P: Bisu Best T: Flash Best Z: Jaedong Best Player: Jaedong | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 05 2009 07:15 a9arnn wrote: If anyone could reaffirm me on this or not, but if I remember correctly, I read an interview about how Stork plays like a bunch of other games (and watches One Piece), because January doesn't really force them to play only Starcraft (or at least didn't for a while). It seems like he'd be a good nominee for the best player of all games (maybe Bisu, Flash, and Jaedong play more games, but I don't recall them saying in interviews that they play other games). What kind of logic is that? Just because he plays WoW and watches anime, he gets some kind of bonus? What a load of BS. Best doesn't mean "he would perform better than everyone else if he worked as hard". Best means he performs better, period. This is the exact same logic as people extrapolating up their iccup rankings. On December 05 2009 07:25 TwoToneTerran wrote: Flash is better but Fantasy is easily getting this award. Can't argue with a further reaching performance for awards. Flash'll take the next one, though, considering Fantasy is playing like garbage this season and Flash is, well, Flash again. 8) It's only been one round. There's quite a bit left. Keep in mind that Fantasy's performance in R1 last year was pretty lackluster as well. | ||
On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
If that's the case, it's pretty absurd to put anyone (yes even flash) other than Jaedong for the player of the year award. | ||
Goragoth
New Zealand1065 Posts
On December 05 2009 07:15 a9arnn wrote: If anyone could reaffirm me on this or not, but if I remember correctly, I read an interview about how Stork plays like a bunch of other games (and watches One Piece), because January doesn't really force them to play only Starcraft (or at least didn't for a while). It seems like he'd be a good nominee for the best player of all games (maybe Bisu, Flash, and Jaedong play more games, but I don't recall them saying in interviews that they play other games). I think you misunderstood that particular award to mean best all-round gamer. That's not it at all. Remember, this is not a Starcraft-only awards ceremony but e-Sports. There are also non-Starcraft players nominated in this category (but not listed in the OP). I'm guessing most of the other players there would be SpecialForces players. Anyway, that award is meant to go to the best player (at their specialized game) amongst those. Obviously that can be hard to judge, but then again as was said before these aren't the most serious awards anyway. | ||
TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On December 05 2009 07:32 TheYango wrote: What kind of logic is that? Just because he plays WoW and watches anime, he gets some kind of bonus? What a load of BS. Best doesn't mean "he would perform better than everyone else if he worked as hard". Best means he performs better, period. This is the exact same logic as people extrapolating up their iccup rankings. It's only been one round. There's quite a bit left. Keep in mind that Fantasy's performance in R1 last year was pretty lackluster as well. Fantasy's performance in PL as a whole is lackluster, despite his finals performance. I'm just mentioning how Flash is doing better in PL and both leagues right now (well they're tied in OSL but Flash is the better shot to come out of his). | ||
Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On December 05 2009 01:18 Jyvblamo wrote: How can Flash be considered best player when he hasn't won any Kespa sanctioned events AND Jaedong has won 2 OSLs and the golden mouse? Flash has 1 OSL, well hes so consistent... Bound to get a lot of votes even if it wasnt just fans. Statistically he should get the award, but I prefer Sea or Fantasy. ![]() | ||
Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
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Crunchums
United States11143 Posts
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
Effort Coach Cho (CJ) Bisu fantasy Jaedong Jaedong | ||
Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
On December 05 2009 02:16 Jyvblamo wrote: On second thought, there is no way to objectively give Flash the best terran award of Fantasy. Two OSL silvers and a Proleague title compared to no achievements at all except most proleague wins in 08-09 season. KeSPA rankings go back one year. It may not be perfect, but Flash has a good margin on Fantasy. More so with GOM, which I'm hesitant to include. Rankings are objective, maybe not accurate, but 100% objective. On December 05 2009 07:48 Disregard wrote: Flash has 1 OSL, well hes so consistent... Bound to get a lot of votes even if it wasnt just fans. Statistically he should get the award, but I prefer Sea or Fantasy. ![]() You're talking about best T and not overall right? | ||
Dice
Korea (South)926 Posts
Destination Best Rookie ![]() Best Coach Park Yong Woon (T1) Best Protoss Player ![]() Best Terran Player ![]() Best Zerg Player ![]() Best Player ![]() | ||
knyttym
United States5797 Posts
Map: Destination Rookie: Effort - How can this one be disputed? He's been raping hard Coach: Park Yong Woon Protoss: Bisu - He may not be doing too hot now but a majority of 2009 was his stomping ground Terran: Flash - Not too sure since he wasn't doing that amazing for the majority of the year Zerg- Jaedong- No contest Best Player: Jaedong- Back to back osl wins? Seems like an easy choice here | ||
konadora
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Singapore66071 Posts
Return of the King Best Rookie ![]() Best Coach Park Yong Woon Best Protoss Player ![]() Best Terran Player ![]() Best Zerg Player ![]() Best Player of all games ![]() | ||
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