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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
December 05 2009 00:46 GMT
#461
Cynan

Main Team
3 (Z)Action
7 (Z)Calm
10 (T)Flash (captain)
3 (P)Movie
2 (Z)Type-B
0 (P)Yoon
5 MBCGame Hero

Anti Team
3 (T)Firebathero
5 (T)Mind
5 (Z)Roro
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
December 05 2009 01:12 GMT
#462
Where the fuck is Frozean? I want to get him... :/
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
December 05 2009 01:13 GMT
#463
On December 05 2009 10:12 LorDo wrote:
Where the fuck is Frozean? I want to get him... :/

He's under the name "CuteAngel".
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
December 05 2009 01:18 GMT
#464
OMG it's hard to pick this time... and the clock's ticking
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 01:52:11
December 05 2009 01:21 GMT
#465
final cut

T-Bizzle

Main Team
7 (Z)Calm
8 (Z)Jaedong (captain)
6 (T)Leta
5 (P)Stork
2 (Z)Type-B
3 (Z)Yarnc
-1 Air Force ACE

Anti Team
3 (Z)Killer
3 (Z)Savior
7 (P)Violet
KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 01:56:57
December 05 2009 01:56 GMT
#466
Okay I have a question - First of all: (P)BeSt and (T)HiyA both cost 4 points. Let's say (P)BeSt is on my anti-team this week. Meanwhile, (T)HiyA wins his game against (Z)n.Die_soO but loses against (T)Flash. Would I then be able to trade (P)BeSt for (T)HiyA next week if I wanted to?

Edit: I'm asking because I'm not sure if their trade values would allow me to do so.
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
December 05 2009 01:56 GMT
#467
Kennigit Super All In

Main Team
3 (Z)Action
8 (Z)Effort
10 (T)Flash (captain)
8 (Z)Jaedong
2 (P)Jangbi
0 (Z)Yellow
-1 Air Force ACE

Anti Team
4 (P)Best
3 (T)Firebathero
6 (Z)Luxury
KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 02:04:12
December 05 2009 02:03 GMT
#468
One more question - (T)DarkElf and (T)Bogus both cost 1 point. If (T)DarkElf loses his match this week, will his trade value become lower than (T)Bogus', or will it still be possible to trade him?

EDIT: Kennigit I might go more all-in than you LOL
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
December 05 2009 02:05 GMT
#469
On December 05 2009 10:56 KP_CollectoR wrote:
Okay I have a question - First of all: (P)BeSt and (T)HiyA both cost 4 points. Let's say (P)BeSt is on my anti-team this week. Meanwhile, (T)HiyA wins his game against (Z)n.Die_soO but loses against (T)Flash. Would I then be able to trade (P)BeSt for (T)HiyA next week if I wanted to?

Edit: I'm asking because I'm not sure if their trade values would allow me to do so.


It'd most likely depend on team wins.
nadafanboy42
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands209 Posts
December 05 2009 02:16 GMT
#470
Take 2, let's hope I don't get sunk by my anti-team this time.

WeMade OZ

Main Team
2 (P)BackHo
10 (T)Flash
8 (Z)Jaedong
3 (Z)Killer
1 (T)Nada (captain)
2 (P)PerfectMan
4 WeMade FOX

Anti Team
5 (P)Kal
4 (T)Ruby
4 (T)Skyhigh
NaDa/Jaedong/Liquid-Fanboy
AssiRoyal
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany216 Posts
December 05 2009 02:50 GMT
#471
finally i proudly present:

Team The Hood

Main Team
2 (T)Canata (captain)
10 (T)Flash
3 (Z)Killer
5 (P)Stork
3 (T)UpMagic
3 (Z)Yarnc
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
6 (Z)Luxury
3 (P)SangHo
4 (T)Skyhigh

im so excited this is my second time im making a team! fuck yeah!
annYeong(o11)
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada784 Posts
December 05 2009 03:00 GMT
#472
Hero Squad

Main Team
8 (P)Bisu (captain)
3 (Z)Hyuk
2 (P)Jangbi
6 (T)Leta
3 (P)Movie
2 (P)Pusan
6 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
4 (P)Best
4 (T)Light
5 (T)Mind
Founder of the KiWiKaKi Fanclub: teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188537 my keyboard is like half broken. like terran. please ignore typos, thanks
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
December 05 2009 03:03 GMT
#473
トメラレルカ?

Main Team
1 (T)Bogus
10 (T)Flash (captain)
1 (T)Iris
8 (Z)Jaedong
5 (P)Stork
0 (Z)Yellow
5 STX Soul

Anti Team
6 (T)Leta
4 (T)Ruby
3 (P)SangHo

Finalized team?
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 03:17:40
December 05 2009 03:15 GMT
#474
I think this is my real final team. Because damnit, there's only an hour left till the games start.

Fanboy

Main Team
7 (Z)Calm
2 (T)Canata (captain)
6 (P)Free
4 (T)Hiya
4 (T)Light
5 (P)Stork
2 Samsung KHAN

Anti Team
2 (P)Horang2
6 (T)Really
5 (Z)Roro

Here were some of my other ideas:
+ Show Spoiler +
Beta - this team was based on the concept of finding players who overperformed last round compared to their cost this round, paired with a couple aces.

3 (Z)Action
3 (P)Anytime
8 (Z)EffOrt
2 (Z)type-b
3 (T)UpMaGiC
9 (Z)ZerO
2 KHAN

Seeing as it was before lineups, it had to change.

Final Justice - this team was based almost solely on lineups, while trying to avoid bad players - may be the strongest team I came up with.

3 (Z)Action
7 (Z)Calm
2 (T)Canata
7 (T)fantasy
3 (P)Movie
3 (Z)YellOw[ArnC]
5 MBC

The problem: I anticipate trading (Z)YellOw[ArnC] and (P)Movie after this week; if someone else crashed and burned that would have been problematic.

ACE - trying to get the most out of a team using ACE as the team.
8 (Z)Jaedong
5 (T)Mind
8 (Z)EffOrt
3 (Z)Action
4 (P)BeSt
3 (T)UpMaGiC
-1 ACE

(P)BeSt is included because I needed a Protoss, and he will get playing time eventually.

Efficiency - this team, similar to Beta, is based on best performance relative to cost. However, it avoids extra aces for the sake of getting a good team.

3 (Z)Action
2 (Z)type-b
9 (Z)ZerO
3 (P)Anytime
3 (T)UpMaGiC
3 (Z)HyuN
7 KT


The team I have now? I looked at all these, and said, "Screw it, what if I just pick players I like?" Other than having to pick up KHAN, it's surprisingly strong.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
AssiRoyal
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany216 Posts
December 05 2009 03:15 GMT
#475
On December 05 2009 11:50 AssiRoyal wrote:
finally i proudly present:

Team The Hood

Main Team
2 (T)Canata (captain)
10 (T)Flash
3 (Z)Killer
5 (P)Stork
3 (T)UpMagic
3 (Z)Yarnc
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
6 (Z)Luxury
3 (P)SangHo
4 (T)Skyhigh

im so excited this is my second time im making a team! fuck yeah!



had to change it one last time:

Team The Hood

Main Team
3 (Z)Action
1 (T)Bogus
2 (T)Canata (captain)
10 (T)Flash
5 (T)Mind
5 (P)Stork
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
6 (Z)Luxury
3 (P)SangHo
4 (T)Skyhigh
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
December 05 2009 03:16 GMT
#476
I just hope i finish above the top 1000 this time

Main Team
3 (Z)Action
8 (Z)Effort
0 (P)Reach (captain)
6 (T)Really
4 (Z)Shine
2 (Z)Type-B
7 KT Rolster

Anti Team
3 (T)Firebathero
6 (P)Free
4 (T)Skyhigh
You have the power to create your own destiny.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
December 05 2009 03:21 GMT
#477
feeling really good about this team. Last season was my first time, and I got sunk because of Sea on my antiteam and a really bad strategy for my main team, which was to take a bunch of SKT players and hope that the points for team wins would add up. They didn't.

Gann

Main Team
7 (Z)Calm
6 (T)Leta
4 (T)Light
3 (P)Movie
5 (P)Stork (captain)
2 (Z)Type-B
3 Hite Sparkyz

Anti Team
6 (P)Free
3 (P)Han
4 (T)Ruby
I drop suckas like Plinko
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 03:31:50
December 05 2009 03:30 GMT
#478
Riceball

Main Team
3 (Z)815
8 (P)Bisu (captain)
1 (T)Sair
4 (Z)Shine
5 (P)Stork
2 (Z)Type-B
7 KT Rolster

Anti Team
5 (Z)Roro
4 (T)Ruby
4 (T)Skyhigh

Changed for the 1000000 time
Just wondering, why are people picking Canata so often when he is up against both Effort and Jaedong in his first two matches? :o
especially as a captain...
edit: nvm, its just the same dude posting his lineup several times
more weight
Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
December 05 2009 03:31 GMT
#479
On December 03 2009 23:34 integral wrote:
These are the top 35 scorers in Fantasy Proleague and their score differences when you compare the new scoring to old. This list includes the best players in the game, and those with the highest winrate. Already, for just the top 35 players, the total score differential is -42. If I were to add up the differences for all the players, the negative score differential would become even more pronounced.

Overall score is decreased with the new scoring, not increased. Significantly.


While overall scoring decreased the top player's scoring has increased, thus to keep them around 10 points and actually buy-able the constant had to be increased. The thing is all the new costs are using the new scoring as a basis so with the overall scoring decrease you're seeing an average decrease in player costs too. The 5.7 constant is purely a scaling factor to put player's in the ~0-10 cost range to fit with the 30 main team/13 anti team spending allocation; the one downside to a higher constant a slight loss in granularity in the low cost players which is very minor.


I'm just pointing out the pattern. Excluding team wins, 1-pointers that play will do worse than 1-pointers that do play. Obviously I'm adjusting my team accordingly, I've already mentioned that. The reason I even have 1-pointers on my team is because this season rewards win % and ace appearances -- not necessarily winning -- so I've gone with what I think are the "most guaranteed" win % players who will show up in the most ace matches. Picking 3 top players leaves me with 8 points left over to distribute between a team and 3 other players. If you see no problem with no-name no-skill players earning more points than players that actually get the opportunity to play, I guess we're just not going to see eye-to-eye on this.


1-pointers that don't play are going to have no variance in scoring however someone that does play could be worth 2 or even 3 points if they win a couple. So its a risk/reward situation there.

On December 04 2009 09:06 integral wrote:
So this doesn't get reiterated, I understand why you adjust player prices based on demand, I just don't agree. It just seems pretty arbitrary to me given the limited player pool. Plus, many of the adjustments made are due to the increase of the constant used to calculate value and relative decrease of the point costs. Almost everyone is cheaper than they should be with the new constant being too high relative to players' expected point gain. With an accurate constant and purely based on the last round results, flash would be 12 points, zero would be 11, and sea 10.

In actuality almost no one is cheaper than what their pure trade value at the end of last round using the new scoring would be. None of the adjustments made were because of the change in the constant; they were mostly made to offset large drops in cost due to poor performances last round which would normally have been accounted for in our usual weighting based on previous rounds (except as hot_bid said last round was a long time ago).

"...perhaps the greatest joy possible in Starcraft, being accused of being a maphacker" - Day[9]
KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
December 05 2009 03:32 GMT
#480
This took FOREVER to figure out, and I considered several different options: Well, here goes nothing...

The Sophomore JinX

Main Team
1 (T)Bogus
8 (Z)Effort
7 (T)Fantasy (captain)
5 (P)Stork
2 (Z)Type-B
0 (Z)Yellow
7 KT Rolster

Anti Team
4 (P)Best
5 (Z)Roro
4 (T)Skyhigh

God help me.
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