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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 21:25:18
November 26 2009 21:22 GMT
#1
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Banner by ME, woo

The Messiah of Zerg: Kim Jung Woo
A Short Article by DoctorHelvetica
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son (John 3:16)

As the presence of our sAviOr, Ma Jae Yoon, began to fade from the world of e-sports, there was a void. Who would lead the swarm to salvation. While Lee Jae Dong was a leader of the zerg, there was nothing holy in his play. His aggressive style crushed the opposition brutally, it tempted the terran man into greed and destroyed them for it. Jaedong punished man for their sin, hell reigned on earth.

There was once a young boy named Kim Jung Woo, who was eliminated in the first GOM tournament by fOrGG. He was soon forgotten, still not ready to live up to his destiny. sAviOr had chosen him, to lead a new era of the management style zerg. His lategame army and midgame defense would push the limit of what was thought possible.

Slowly, EffOrt became recognized by the public as a force in e-sports. He tossed aside weaker opponents, cleansing them of their sins. The zerg race was saved and EffOrt was worshipped.

"In case you haven't visited Brood War lately: Effort's record in the current SC season (PL R5, GOM S3, Avalon MSL, Bacchus OSL) is 25-3 — a ridiculous mark that is by far the best in progaming and amongst the most impressive hot streaks of all time. Since May's Power Rank, Effort has lost one game while reaching the Ro16 in all three Starleagues and averaging more than one win per CJ Entus Proleague match. Wait, what?



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In the past month Effort has edged both of last season's most feared ZvZers, completed July's precipitous fall from OSL grace, and made everyone who picked a certain seven-point T1 player for their by.Fantasy Proleague team look pathetically uninformed. Though (unlike most other members of this rank) he's thus far avoided all four of the world's most-feared Terrans, satisfyingly straight-up wins over both Stork and Jaedong should be enough to convince even TL's most vicious skeptics that Effort is capable of destroying well-established members of StarCraft's elite. Given that he is dismantling every A-class player he faces with a perfect combination of surgical precision and Maestro-esque flair, Effort's eventual Starleague series opponents should desperately hope he's lying when he says "I think my games turn out better when I face top-class players".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa-j1birhlk


EffOrt is the zerg messiah, the son of our lord Ma Jae Yoon. Perhaps he will never know an OSL Victory, or an MSL finals. Will he save us like Ma Bonjwa did? The maps in the OSL look good for his race. He is destined to bring it all the way, to win a championship, to cleanse the world of its sin. EffOrt is the successor not to a man, but to a god, and as such will become a god himself. Be warned, you might beat him, you might kill his confidence, but this is not a human. He will rise again, stronger than ever, and save us all
4000th Post! Let the EffOrt hype commence!
RIP Aaliyah
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 26 2009 21:26 GMT
#2
It's about time.

Effort for MSL and OSL winner.
lgd-haze
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden547 Posts
November 26 2009 21:27 GMT
#3
Good read!
Flying Tushin!!
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 21:31:07
November 26 2009 21:30 GMT
#4
I love you DoctorHelvetica. That was well used 4000th post.
edit: yay I got ling
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 26 2009 21:30 GMT
#5
with calm being killed by clam

effort is the second best zerg, soon to be THE best
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 21:34:53
November 26 2009 21:34 GMT
#6
Savior isn't totally gone, he's still hanging around.
But let us worship at the feet of the Messiah: he who was, is and is yet to come.
EFFORT BONJWA
Sullifam
Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
November 26 2009 21:36 GMT
#7
Let him win a tournament first before you start calling him Messiah.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 26 2009 21:37 GMT
#8
On November 27 2009 06:36 Fraidnot wrote:
Let him win a tournament first before you start calling him Messiah.


Should we let Hwasin win an OSL before we start calling him the red sniper?

It's his nickname. That, and Hawkeye. It has more to do with his relationship to "savior" than anything.
RIP Aaliyah
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 26 2009 21:37 GMT
#9
very well written.

Ty!
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 21:37:31
November 26 2009 21:37 GMT
#10
...
Please change the CJ logo in your profile to something else.
Sullifam
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 26 2009 21:38 GMT
#11
Also, I can't believe how unbelievably sick the new CJ jackets are. Even sKyHigh looks sexy in them. Are they leather or just a leather like material?
RIP Aaliyah
zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
November 26 2009 21:38 GMT
#12
You'd have to be blind and deaf to not recognize Effort as a force to be reckoned.
In a Zerg dominated world, it's easy to overlook one of the most promising and rising players in the scene.

One could say Jaedong has already reached his peak as a BW player. But can anyone say the same thing about Effort? I'd bet all my money he'll be the one leading the Zerg race in months to come. Not Calm, and - hell no - not Hyuk or Kwanro or Shine. It's Effort.
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
November 26 2009 21:40 GMT
#13
I know his nickname is due to the fact he's associated with Ma Jae-Yoon, but zergs have been doing well in the post-sAviOr era, so we don't really need a zerg "Messiah," am I right?
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 26 2009 21:41 GMT
#14
On November 27 2009 06:38 zazen wrote:
You'd have to be blind and deaf to not recognize Effort as a force to be reckoned.
In a Zerg dominated world, it's easy to overlook one of the most promising and rising players in the scene.

One could say Jaedong has already reached his peak as a BW player. But can anyone say the same thing about Effort? I'd bet all my money he'll be the one leading the Zerg race in months to come. Not Calm, and - hell no - not Hyuk or Kwanro or Shine. It's Effort.


I'd say ZerO would be a strong contender for such a title.
RIP Aaliyah
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
November 26 2009 21:41 GMT
#15
Yeah effort is good but for me Zero > Effort... its just me, I cant see on effort the aura of the best zergs (yellow, savior and jaedong) I see effort like July... a awesome player and probably one of the best zergs ever, maybe he wins more titles than jaedong or savior but my love for him isnt going to be the same.

Nice read ;D
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 26 2009 21:42 GMT
#16
Well written but very biased.

I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 26 2009 21:44 GMT
#17
On November 27 2009 06:42 Holgerius wrote:
Well written but very biased.



It's just a hype article, bias is to be expected.
RIP Aaliyah
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
November 26 2009 21:46 GMT
#18
On November 27 2009 06:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Also, I can't believe how unbelievably sick the new CJ jackets are. Even sKyHigh looks sexy in them. Are they leather or just a leather like material?

I must agree here, they look so sexy.
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
November 26 2009 21:46 GMT
#19
I overlooked Zero in my post, but I can't agree with Zero > Effort by any means. Zero is up there with Hyuk, Shine and Kwanro - he can probably be considered more stable than any of these players too - but I still think of him as someone who's a level below Calm, Effort and Jaedong.
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 21:51:17
November 26 2009 21:49 GMT
#20
Just throwing this out there, but Effort is 0-3 vs. Bisu and 1-6 vs. Flash. Nd if you don't count GOM, Jaedong is 5-1 vs. Effort. I think Effort's Leta. Can't beat anyone better than him but crushes everyone worse than him. Effort is an S- player along with fantasy and Stork. S class is still outta reach.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 26 2009 21:49 GMT
#21
On November 27 2009 06:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 06:42 Holgerius wrote:
Well written but very biased.



It's just a hype article, bias is to be expected.

Ya, I'm not complaining. Just pointing it out.

Someone needs to write an epic article about Flash.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 26 2009 21:53 GMT
#22
On November 27 2009 06:49 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 06:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2009 06:42 Holgerius wrote:
Well written but very biased.



It's just a hype article, bias is to be expected.

Ya, I'm not complaining. Just pointing it out.

Someone needs to write an epic article about Flash.


Don't worry, that's coming
RIP Aaliyah
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 26 2009 21:54 GMT
#23
On November 27 2009 06:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 06:49 Holgerius wrote:
On November 27 2009 06:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2009 06:42 Holgerius wrote:
Well written but very biased.



It's just a hype article, bias is to be expected.

Ya, I'm not complaining. Just pointing it out.

Someone needs to write an epic article about Flash.


Don't worry, that's coming

Fuck yeah! :D Can't wait!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 26 2009 21:55 GMT
#24
Effort is the reason I switched to CJ. Just seeing someone break away from the hyper aggressive trends that Jaedong initiated and going back to macro plays reminiscent of Savior just did it for me.
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
November 26 2009 22:17 GMT
#25
DoctorHelvetica, are you trying to break the record for most awesome contributions to TL in one week? Because you're rocking it.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 26 2009 22:19 GMT
#26
On November 27 2009 07:17 tirentu wrote:
DoctorHelvetica, are you trying to break the record for most awesome contributions to TL in one week? Because you're rocking it.



this + clam murder + nevergg fanfic + asian girls + osl writeup

never get a life
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 26 2009 22:24 GMT
#27
On November 27 2009 07:17 tirentu wrote:
DoctorHelvetica, are you trying to break the record for most awesome contributions to TL in one week? Because you're rocking it.


I have nothing better to do.
RIP Aaliyah
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
November 26 2009 22:27 GMT
#28
On November 27 2009 06:40 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
I know his nickname is due to the fact he's associated with Ma Jae-Yoon, but zergs have been doing well in the post-sAviOr era, so we don't really need a zerg "Messiah," am I right?


You are right. July was the zerg messiah.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
November 27 2009 03:54 GMT
#29
OMFG amazing! brilliant read. I really enjoyed even if somewhat short. If you're who think you are.. the person that has a livestream and we all kept saying "BRILLIANT PLAY BY SAVIOR!!!" yes, thats you? ^^
Entusman #51
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
November 27 2009 03:57 GMT
#30
flash doesn't need a hype article
his tvt and tvz speak for themselves
Sullifam
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-27 03:59:37
November 27 2009 03:58 GMT
#31
CJ fighting! CJ finally found a reliable ace player after the fall of Savior. This season, the grand final is theirs to reach!

I want a SKT v.s. CJ final so bad. (SKT v.s. KT final would be cool too)
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
November 27 2009 04:00 GMT
#32
EFFORT!!!
<3
cw)minsean(ru
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
November 27 2009 04:10 GMT
#33
(Z)EffOrt is my king.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
November 27 2009 04:15 GMT
#34
Effort is 4 ZvP wins from having the most statistically dominant match up in significant games.
Remember Violet.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-27 04:19:27
November 27 2009 04:18 GMT
#35
On November 27 2009 06:49 lone_hydra wrote:
Just throwing this out there, but Effort is 0-3 vs. Bisu and 1-6 vs. Flash. Nd if you don't count GOM, Jaedong is 5-1 vs. Effort. I think Effort's Leta. Can't beat anyone better than him but crushes everyone worse than him. Effort is an S- player along with fantasy and Stork. S class is still outta reach.

Stork is an s class player retard. He might not always play like one, but he is one.

And I don't get this whole messiah crap when zergs have been winning everything.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 27 2009 04:21 GMT
#36
On November 27 2009 12:57 ghostWriter wrote:
flash doesn't need a hype article
his tvt and tvz speak for themselves


It isn't a hype article. It's a TLFE
RIP Aaliyah
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
November 27 2009 04:24 GMT
#37
Heh, Messiah, heir to Savior, I like it, it's clever.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 27 2009 05:13 GMT
#38
haha well written, i'm not an effort fan boy but i think he's good ... but starleague title? no way ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
November 27 2009 06:34 GMT
#39
On November 27 2009 06:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 06:36 Fraidnot wrote:
Let him win a tournament first before you start calling him Messiah.


Should we let Hwasin win an OSL before we start calling him the red sniper?

It's his nickname. That, and Hawkeye. It has more to do with his relationship to "savior" than anything.



Hope he doesn't suck it up and everyone gets disappointing like with saviOr.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
November 27 2009 06:37 GMT
#40
On November 27 2009 15:34 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 06:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 27 2009 06:36 Fraidnot wrote:
Let him win a tournament first before you start calling him Messiah.


Should we let Hwasin win an OSL before we start calling him the red sniper?

It's his nickname. That, and Hawkeye. It has more to do with his relationship to "savior" than anything.



Hope he doesn't suck it up and everyone gets disappointing like with saviOr.


Yes, his 3 MSLs and an OSL really let people down...
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 27 2009 06:50 GMT
#41
While Lee Jae Dong was a leader of the zerg, there was nothing holy in his play. His aggressive style crushed the opposition brutally, it tempted the terran man into greed and destroyed them for it.

I bet if you forced Jaedong to play a more management heavy style he would do it better than Effort. + Show Spoiler +
It's really cold in this room so I figured I'd try and start a fire
brood war for life, brood war forever
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 27 2009 07:24 GMT
#42
EffOrt is definitely one of my favourite players. Top Zerg for sure at least.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 27 2009 07:24 GMT
#43
On November 27 2009 06:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 06:36 Fraidnot wrote:
Let him win a tournament first before you start calling him Messiah.


Should we let Hwasin win an OSL before we start calling him the red sniper?

It's his nickname. That, and Hawkeye. It has more to do with his relationship to "savior" than anything.

I don't get where they got messiah, its not like he saved the zerg race, the zerg race was already kicking ass when he came into the scene
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
sky_slasher
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States328 Posts
November 27 2009 18:19 GMT
#44
There's like...nothing to save...during Savior's prime things looked seriously horrible for Zerg b/c of maps like Longinus and the Reverse Temple which strongly favored Terran...but right not it's Zerg's age...(half of OSL and MSL prelim survivors are Zergs...)
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 27 2009 18:43 GMT
#45
Effort's face looks pretty weird in that pic, but those jackets make up for it. If Effort can pick up his recent zvz play he'll really be a force to reckon with. Great article!
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
November 27 2009 18:45 GMT
#46
More fluff.

Win something first then advertise.
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Tonkerchen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
680 Posts
November 27 2009 18:48 GMT
#47
very nice written. please keep conrtinuing!
The time is just an illusion... created by mankind... /// Lee Young Ho last Bonjwa on earth! /// «I'll... destroy everyone in 2009. Ok...? Thank you.» - Ma Jae Yoon - Maestro Of Zerg
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
November 27 2009 18:58 GMT
#48
just read it again because it is just that amazing, grats on 4k posts, i actually didnt see that last time.
Entusman #51
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
November 27 2009 20:14 GMT
#49
good read.
Omg i so like Effort game, he is so good. But he have to hang up is ZvZ, he is slupping a little bit right now
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natturner
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
342 Posts
November 27 2009 20:26 GMT
#50
if Effort is the messiah, then what is Jaedong?
This nigga done stole my bike.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
November 27 2009 20:50 GMT
#51
Jaedong is the Tyrant. The Legend Killer.
Sullifam
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
November 27 2009 21:30 GMT
#52
wait sorry why is most of the article the PR entry? o.O

pretty post though
Writer
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
November 27 2009 21:34 GMT
#53
effort is a bad player overall
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-27 21:47:00
November 27 2009 21:46 GMT
#54
its supposed to be fluff guys

im not making a serious attempt at analysis or anything like that. just something fluffy and nice for other effort fanboys

his nickname is already the messiah btw. he is the heir to savior's management style so it makes sense
RIP Aaliyah
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-27 21:54:00
November 27 2009 21:51 GMT
#55
I like the duality of Jaedong being the Tyrant and Effort being the Messiah.

Too bad Jaedong is still kind of tyranting.

Kind of sad Flash has no real counterpart/mentor though. =\ Fantasy's whole "Crown Prince" Deal with boxer, Effort's Messiah with savior.

Though I guess the four kings or whatever (Flash/Stork/Bisu/Jaedong) are all amazing unto themselves and have no specific mentor to acredit like Effort and Fantasy.

Now that I think about it, I'm kind of wondering if having that mentor/mentee relationship, or at the very least that shadow, is what's stopped Fantasy and Effort from going all the way and truly coming out of their shell (Fantasy came close with PL finals but the stomping he had the following week at the hands of Jaedong deflated the crap out of it.)
Remember Violet.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 27 2009 21:59 GMT
#56
flash is so far above the next best terrans (fantasy/leta/sea) it's not even funny
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 27 2009 22:50 GMT
#57
Effort overrated lol.
TranslatorBaa!
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
November 27 2009 23:01 GMT
#58
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And all is illuminated.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-28 02:01:04
November 28 2009 01:38 GMT
#59
No I get it. It's just that savior's "savior" from the beginning, his fan-given nick is maestro and tbh he earned it (and mafailstro lol).

I'll go with hawkeye (??) but this messiah business is just rofl more pun than truth. Bisu revolutionist, yea, Flash ultimate weapon, okay. Effort messiah...? Hes obviously a martian, the martian zerg. Check in his hair for antenna xD
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 29 2009 07:23 GMT
#60
Basically, if you're not a Zerg or Flash, don't even bother showing up to face Kim Jung Woo.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=581&part=games&vs=T&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=4&from_day=1&to_year=2009&to_month=11&to_day=27&action=Update

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=581&part=games&vs=P&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=4&from_day=1&to_year=2009&to_month=11&to_day=27&action=Update
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 07:31:38
November 29 2009 07:31 GMT
#61
On November 29 2009 16:23 jalstar wrote:
Basically, if you're not a Zerg or Flash, don't even bother showing up to face Kim Jung Woo.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=581&part=games&vs=T&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=4&from_day=1&to_year=2009&to_month=11&to_day=27&action=Update

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=581&part=games&vs=P&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=4&from_day=1&to_year=2009&to_month=11&to_day=27&action=Update

Why did you choose a period of roughly 8 months rather than a more round number like 6 or 3? Are you trying to doctor stats maybe. (That's a bit more accusatory than I meant to be)

Remember there are 3 types of lies, lies, damn lies, and statistics.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 29 2009 07:35 GMT
#62
April was the beginning of the "season" before this one; Batoo and Lost Saga were over or almost over, and Round 4 of proleague was starting.

8 months of ownage is more impressive than 3 or 6 months anyway.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
November 29 2009 07:37 GMT
#63
FORMAT OMG PLS
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
November 29 2009 08:00 GMT
#64
On November 29 2009 16:31 wswordsmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2009 16:23 jalstar wrote:
Basically, if you're not a Zerg or Flash, don't even bother showing up to face Kim Jung Woo.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=581&part=games&vs=T&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=4&from_day=1&to_year=2009&to_month=11&to_day=27&action=Update

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=581&part=games&vs=P&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=4&from_day=1&to_year=2009&to_month=11&to_day=27&action=Update

Why did you choose a period of roughly 8 months rather than a more round number like 6 or 3? Are you trying to doctor stats maybe. (That's a bit more accusatory than I meant to be)

Remember there are 3 types of lies, lies, damn lies, and statistics.


True, but there are also lies, damn lies, and the fact that Effort rolled basically every Terran and Protoss he faced for the last 8 months, no matter how you wanna look at it.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
November 29 2009 08:04 GMT
#65
husky told me idra washes his clothes... is this true?
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
November 29 2009 08:04 GMT
#66
im a fan now. go effort! he avgs more than one game win for cj entus per pl match.
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Tantin
Profile Joined February 2008
United States23 Posts
November 29 2009 08:06 GMT
#67
I love the banner. Is it possible to get it bigger? Say wallpaper sized?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2009 08:11 GMT
#68
I'm not good enough to make wallpapers yet.

Someday tho
RIP Aaliyah
jello24
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada327 Posts
November 29 2009 08:13 GMT
#69
savior already has a heir, one who's proven himself to be quite the successor.

And it's been discussed at a much greater depth in this article: TLFE - Heir Apparent

What people should be looking for is the successor to JD.
just lurking around...
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2009 08:15 GMT
#70
On November 29 2009 17:13 jello24 wrote:
savior already has a heir, one who's proven himself to be quite the successor.

And it's been discussed at a much greater depth in this article: TLFE - Heir Apparent

What people should be looking for is the successor to JD.


Jaedong was an heir to the title of "best zerg"

EffOrt is the heir to saviors spot on CJ and the heir to his management style. Stylistically, sAviOr and Jaedong aren't very similar. Great FE though, one of my favorites.
RIP Aaliyah
ThePsiTooz
Profile Joined November 2009
New Zealand27 Posts
November 29 2009 08:24 GMT
#71
Lol nice read
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