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On November 19 2009 04:27 Quint wrote:
Fragster: How do you like the Chinese culture?
kolll: The only problem is, that there is no one that speaks even one word of English.
We always have to talk a lot, point - whatever - in order to make them realise that we want Fanta, Cola or something like that. That really gets on my nerves. The timetable was really good and there was no pressure, since we always had enough time.
What a shame... He's too young to be so ethnocentric! Whenever a tourist goes anywhere, the locals need to speak their language. 
On November 19 2009 04:27 Quint wrote:
Fragster: About the final: Jaedong or Stork?
kolll: Well, I think Stork is the better player, but I think that Jaedong will win this final (Editors Note: Jaedong won the final).
If Stork was the better player, then he should have won... Just saying.
Maybe someone should get him on TLAttack?
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On November 20 2009 08:53 RamenStyle wrote:
I like his point of view on the foreigner going pro thing. He is right, if a foreigner goes to Korea it should be at a young age when he can sort of commit like most progamers do, not at 25 having finished college and an MBA.
Apart from slightly diminishing hand speed, the main reason age is bad for koreans is military service. That doesn't affect foreigners. Still, over 21 and I'd say you're life will start getting in the way.
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Perhaps he feels Stork is better than Jaedong because he played them both. Perhaps Stork's PvZ is better than Jaedong's ZvZ? Perhaps Koll played against Jaedong better than he did against Stork? These things could have a big impact on his opinion.
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On November 20 2009 09:44 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2009 04:27 Quint wrote:
Fragster: How do you like the Chinese culture?
kolll: The only problem is, that there is no one that speaks even one word of English.
We always have to talk a lot, point - whatever - in order to make them realise that we want Fanta, Cola or something like that. That really gets on my nerves. The timetable was really good and there was no pressure, since we always had enough time.
What a shame... He's too young to be so ethnocentric! Whenever a tourist goes anywhere, the locals need to speak their language. Show nested quote +On November 19 2009 04:27 Quint wrote:
Fragster: About the final: Jaedong or Stork?
kolll: Well, I think Stork is the better player, but I think that Jaedong will win this final (Editors Note: Jaedong won the final).
If Stork was the better player, then he should have won... Just saying. Maybe someone should get him on TLAttack?
don't make such a big deal out of that first quote. Speak their language? His first language is german. His second language is english.
Of course it is annoying if you can't communicate.
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On November 20 2009 10:43 IPS.ZeRo wrote:
don't make such a big deal out of that first quote. Speak their language? His first language is german. His second language is english.
Of course it is annoying if you can't communicate.
It takes about 5 minutes to learn how to say "Can I please have a coke" in Chinese. In turn he'll learn something about a language that is on another end of the spectrum from his own, he'll learn to respect other cultures, he'll learn many things. Locals will have great respect for a person who tries to learn just a tiny bit of their language. He seems like a bright successful kid, learning a line or two shouldn't be that hard.
He is still young I understand that and maybe the article wasn't translated well, but from what I read in that line he sounds like a brat. These sorts of lessons in life are perhaps the most important ones one can ever learn.
edit: Typo
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United States43860 Posts
On November 20 2009 09:44 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2009 04:27 Quint wrote:
Fragster: How do you like the Chinese culture?
kolll: The only problem is, that there is no one that speaks even one word of English.
We always have to talk a lot, point - whatever - in order to make them realise that we want Fanta, Cola or something like that. That really gets on my nerves. The timetable was really good and there was no pressure, since we always had enough time.
What a shame... He's too young to be so ethnocentric! Whenever a tourist goes anywhere, the locals need to speak their language.
He wasn't asking them to speak German, ie his language. He was asking them to speak English, the language of international communication. He's made the effort to be bilingual and was hoping the same of them.
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well, keep in mind that chengdu is not the typical tourist destination. in a fast food restaurant in shanghai or bejing they would probably speak some english....
i wouldnt overdiscuss koll in any way atm. he has shown great potential, but we havent seen enough of him yet to determine how good he actually is. time will tell, lets just wait. and by the same principle, its kinda ridiculous to try to rate his character after one single statement that might have gone wrong. how much intolerant or just plain stupid bullshit have u said when u were 14? even if his statement was meant as a complaint towards the chinese mcdonalds staff and not just as the expression of his frustration, we should still keep in mind that it comes from a 14 year old teenager that hasnt seen much of the world yet.
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umm hmm.
Kolls ZvT lategame control is nearly as good as rets.
That is a fucking fact and anybody doubting that is deluded. He is sick sick!
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Netherlands5357 Posts
On November 19 2009 08:48 s.Q.uelched wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2009 08:45 WeSt wrote:
Any chance of watching the so talked about 2-0 vs idra?
Can't anyone answer this after 7 pages? :\
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On November 19 2009 08:29 wok wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2009 07:03 eXigent. wrote:On November 19 2009 06:01 m3rciless wrote:On November 19 2009 05:50 G.s)NarutO wrote:On November 19 2009 05:46 disciple wrote:On November 19 2009 05:42 G.s)NarutO wrote:On November 19 2009 05:11 disciple wrote:
time for Flash Bogus and Baby to shit their pants Kolll will eat worlds if he goes to korea I don't want to imagine what Bogus and Flash would do to kolll.. Seriously Flash is fucking insane. He is demolishing Korean progamers left and right (not right now, but not too far in the past, he's still amazing though). What do you think he'd do to kolll? Not to mention he already won a starleague etc.. Kolll has great potential. I referred to Flash Bogus and baby cause they are considered the wunderkinds of starcraft. Kolll has no chance at this point but who know if this kid gets a proper korean training... I really said it lots of times now, but too make sure no one misunderstands: I do like kolll, he has shown great and impressive things YET It has nothing to do with talent. Back in the days, you started on battle.net with less good practice partners. Today you can start on iccup and bam, you will only face better players when you start and your skill will boost insanely fast. He played at least 8000 Games in his 2 years, if not more and started at a high level of gaming (compared to battle.net). Thats why he's already that good. Ofcourse you still need a bit of talent, but if you think his potential is so great, it makes no sense that he's still stuck with A-/ low A maybe. I know that the skill difference is insane from holding an A- rank and holding an A rank, but still, that would define the word talent for me. This is like the worst argument in the world. If things are so damn easy now, why aren't there more players like kolll. Oh wait, because hes a prodigy. Or...because like it was mentioned he has played a SHIT TON of games in a short time frame, whereas other players don't put in half as much effort. 8000 games in 2 years is nothing; I've played well over 3000 since I started in June. 4 hours a day is also only slightly more than what I put in during the summer. I'm D- right now, he bested Idra. Clearly there's some talent going on 
Are you serious? 3000 games and your still D-? I watched your stream the other day and I though you had barely played for a week lol. I've played this game casually for a year, been mainly following the scene, according to my replays I've played slightly over 2300 games. (It is slightly more because I played Garena for a few weeks before discovering ICCUP.) I'm a weak Cplus (I get there and stay there but can't really advance forward.) And you play Protoss!
Anyways, I think it's a mixture of both in Kolls case. Talent and the fact he actually put the time to it = really goooood.
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On November 20 2009 17:37 s.Q.uelched wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2009 08:48 s.Q.uelched wrote:On November 19 2009 08:45 WeSt wrote:
Any chance of watching the so talked about 2-0 vs idra? Can't anyone answer this after 7 pages? :\
Just be patient, it will appear when you least expect it
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On November 19 2009 04:32 3 Lions wrote:
lol he thinks Jaedong is worse than Stork.
i guess that's true in certain aspects of the game
Stork is better. If you have enough knowledge about Starcraft you realize this.
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what are u even talking about ?
T_T
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this kid is gonna kill those koreans!
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On November 20 2009 18:27 Zoler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2009 04:32 3 Lions wrote:
lol he thinks Jaedong is worse than Stork.
i guess that's true in certain aspects of the game Stork is better. If you have enough knowledge about Starcraft you realize this.
I think so too, at intelligence and overall understanding of the game. He knows which way to play to beat his opponent, just that he is slow. JD is insane in small unit control though, those battles under 100-150 supply.
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On November 20 2009 13:46 KwarK wrote:
He wasn't asking them to speak German, ie his language. He was asking them to speak English, the language of international communication. He's made the effort to be bilingual and was hoping the same of them.[/QUOTE]
But he is in China. I don't think it's much of an effort to be bilingual in Europe. Plenty of Chinese are bilingual, in their own dialects, cause that's all they really need to get around, they don't need English, 'the language of international communication' since tiny grocery stores that sell drinks do not operate internationally. It sounds like you're just as ethnocentric as he is.
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[Edit]: On a second thought it's not clear to whom he is referring, so nevermind.
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He just says what he thinks without worrying about how others might think or considering extenuating circumstances, imo. He isn't calling the people in china idiots because they don't speak english. He is just a headstrong young gamer.
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Bring out the glove arotisis and drag him to your apartment:b
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