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Mutalisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
288 Posts
October 09 2008 18:21 GMT
#1
I have been playing ladder for a long time now, but I can't do anything to not have fear of the ladder itself.

I like to play starcraft, and to play against people. But I have a very big opponent, and it's myself. I play bw to improve so I always try to play the maximum games possible.
However, whenever I have a good nick with good stats or I begin to rise in ranks I don't play anymore. I have fear in losing points that I have done a huge effort to gain and I always end playing just the minimum to be C/C+ and I have time to be more than that, but I don't have guts.

Any of you have had this problem and have resolved it?

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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
October 09 2008 18:23 GMT
#2
Yea it's easy, just keep playing lol.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
October 09 2008 18:25 GMT
#3
One way you can think about it is.... if you can get up to a certain rating... no matter how far down you fall due to consecutive losses, you'll eventually get back up to that original rating. This is true even before you consider that the season gets easier as it progresses. If your goal is to raise your rank very quickly, then it's understandable to get nervous once your rank gets high, but if you are just doing ladder to see how high you go in general, then going down is a part of going up, and is perfectly ok. Just don't race to get to B in the last week of the season.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 09 2008 18:32 GMT
#4
just keep playing and get better. i know a lot of people that have 10 iccup accounts and they play/practice through it and when theyre like B they stop playing and use their lower accounts and if its all B's theyll play on bnet. its about 'ranks' no one cares how good you are, just keep improving imo.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
October 09 2008 18:33 GMT
#5
On October 10 2008 03:25 micronesia wrote:
One way you can think about it is.... if you can get up to a certain rating... no matter how far down you fall due to consecutive losses, you'll eventually get back up to that original rating. This is true even before you consider that the season gets easier as it progresses. If your goal is to raise your rank very quickly, then it's understandable to get nervous once your rank gets high, but if you are just doing ladder to see how high you go in general, then going down is a part of going up, and is perfectly ok. Just don't race to get to B in the last week of the season.


hm.. I've actually felt similar fear as the OP, and i think this mindset is actually very good... o,o
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44278 Posts
October 09 2008 18:35 GMT
#6
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 09 2008 18:43 GMT
#7
I know some people with this problem and the problem is that they have an ego. They hit C+ and they have it their mind that they are C+ so they are afraid of losing it, maybe realizing they aren't as good as they think.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 09 2008 19:08 GMT
#8
On October 10 2008 03:25 micronesia wrote:
One way you can think about it is.... if you can get up to a certain rating... no matter how far down you fall due to consecutive losses, you'll eventually get back up to that original rating. This is true even before you consider that the season gets easier as it progresses. If your goal is to raise your rank very quickly, then it's understandable to get nervous once your rank gets high, but if you are just doing ladder to see how high you go in general, then going down is a part of going up, and is perfectly ok. Just don't race to get to B in the last week of the season.


this isn't true if you get points by winning tours though.
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
October 09 2008 19:21 GMT
#9
On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.


That's a pretty cool way to think of it.

My solution is to keep playing. I have my regular account (Durak) and I started a new acc once I got to D+. With the new account I went 16-1. The next few days I went from 16-1 to 16-24. This could have been because I wasn't actually a D+ level player at the time. Or, I could have been playing against people who were better than D+, or got cheesed a lot, or whatever. The point is that you end up learning more when you lose and so your record doesn't matter. That acc is now back up to 34-26ish.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
October 09 2008 19:40 GMT
#10
You have to realize its not like an academic test but more of a place to practice.

I got through the fear by losing and playing alot of games. Losing in all sorts of scenarios and getting my record smashed left and right until I didn't care anymore, and that's when I started to notice massive jumps in my game.

Also don't emotionally attach to it, don't overdo it, and always play each game with no expectations.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
October 09 2008 19:41 GMT
#11
bleh, i have the same problem sometimes, some sessions i just dont care and play till im done, but sometimes when i get a shiny new rank i dont wanna lose it TT, like people said already when that happens i just take a new account and raise it to the same level, and just play on it all the time, thus keeping my shiny original rank untouched, I know its stupid to be scared of losing your rank when its just practicing to get better and playing vs better players, but i cant help it.
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Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
October 09 2008 19:41 GMT
#12
It's a pride thing really. Once you've got that high you feel like you've accomplished something, and you don't want to see it fall.

I had this same problem for a while too. You just need to try your best to forget about it, and just keep playing.
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ArtyK.TeMiL
Profile Joined October 2007
Peru140 Posts
October 09 2008 19:43 GMT
#13
just think about players with B account and a stats like 160-130 ¬¬
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 09 2008 19:49 GMT
#14
On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.



That is a good way to think about it. In essence, you're playing random people, and you are basically betting points that you are better than them. You shouldn't be afraid of winning or losing the points- they're just currency. Even better, the points all reset back down to 0 at the start of the next season.
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Red.Cloud
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada235 Posts
October 09 2008 19:57 GMT
#15
On October 10 2008 04:43 ArtyK.TeMiL wrote:
just think about players with B account and a stats like 160-130 ¬¬



i think the ones u are things of is 160-220
Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
October 09 2008 20:01 GMT
#16
I have this problem too, man! I will get like C- and then reset my stats or something, lol. Or I'll just stop playing and start playing on another account.

>_<!
Mutalisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
288 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-09 20:06:34
October 09 2008 20:05 GMT
#17
On October 10 2008 04:49 waterdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.



That is a good way to think about it. In essence, you're playing random people, and you are basically betting points that you are better than them. You shouldn't be afraid of winning or losing the points- they're just currency. Even better, the points all reset back down to 0 at the start of the next season.


Definetely this is a good way to think about iccup that I hadn't realised.

I think too that it's a matter of pride ( stupid pride ), but I can't help to think like this. I try to avoid this type of thinking but its my nature. Anyways, thank you for all your answer, I really appreciate them.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
October 09 2008 20:10 GMT
#18
I used to feel the same way as you do but I've since then reevaluated my mentality, and now simply play for experience, rather than a letter rating.
blabberrrrr
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
October 09 2008 20:10 GMT
#19
On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.


Omg, this is my new quote.. I have a similar problem as like the OP but its completely different but I just dont play Iccup as good as I usually do in hamachi/offline/bnet for some reason


w/e
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-09 20:16:20
October 09 2008 20:15 GMT
#20
On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.


That is fucking genius.

On October 10 2008 03:33 YPang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2008 03:25 micronesia wrote:
One way you can think about it is.... if you can get up to a certain rating... no matter how far down you fall due to consecutive losses, you'll eventually get back up to that original rating. This is true even before you consider that the season gets easier as it progresses. If your goal is to raise your rank very quickly, then it's understandable to get nervous once your rank gets high, but if you are just doing ladder to see how high you go in general, then going down is a part of going up, and is perfectly ok. Just don't race to get to B in the last week of the season.


hm.. I've actually felt similar fear as the OP, and i think this mindset is actually very good... o,o



Lmao GS, no it isn't. I can recall two-three seasons where you hit C- then stopped, following season did the same at C and you'll probably do it again at C+ this season. Stop the madness.
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