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I have been playing ladder for a long time now, but I can't do anything to not have fear of the ladder itself.
I like to play starcraft, and to play against people. But I have a very big opponent, and it's myself. I play bw to improve so I always try to play the maximum games possible.
However, whenever I have a good nick with good stats or I begin to rise in ranks I don't play anymore. I have fear in losing points that I have done a huge effort to gain and I always end playing just the minimum to be C/C+ and I have time to be more than that, but I don't have guts.
Any of you have had this problem and have resolved it?
 
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Yea it's easy, just keep playing lol.
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One way you can think about it is.... if you can get up to a certain rating... no matter how far down you fall due to consecutive losses, you'll eventually get back up to that original rating. This is true even before you consider that the season gets easier as it progresses. If your goal is to raise your rank very quickly, then it's understandable to get nervous once your rank gets high, but if you are just doing ladder to see how high you go in general, then going down is a part of going up, and is perfectly ok. Just don't race to get to B in the last week of the season.
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just keep playing and get better. i know a lot of people that have 10 iccup accounts and they play/practice through it and when theyre like B they stop playing and use their lower accounts and if its all B's theyll play on bnet. its about 'ranks' no one cares how good you are, just keep improving imo.
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On October 10 2008 03:25 micronesia wrote:
One way you can think about it is.... if you can get up to a certain rating... no matter how far down you fall due to consecutive losses, you'll eventually get back up to that original rating. This is true even before you consider that the season gets easier as it progresses. If your goal is to raise your rank very quickly, then it's understandable to get nervous once your rank gets high, but if you are just doing ladder to see how high you go in general, then going down is a part of going up, and is perfectly ok. Just don't race to get to B in the last week of the season.
hm.. I've actually felt similar fear as the OP, and i think this mindset is actually very good... o,o
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The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.
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I know some people with this problem and the problem is that they have an ego. They hit C+ and they have it their mind that they are C+ so they are afraid of losing it, maybe realizing they aren't as good as they think.
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On October 10 2008 03:25 micronesia wrote:
One way you can think about it is.... if you can get up to a certain rating... no matter how far down you fall due to consecutive losses, you'll eventually get back up to that original rating. This is true even before you consider that the season gets easier as it progresses. If your goal is to raise your rank very quickly, then it's understandable to get nervous once your rank gets high, but if you are just doing ladder to see how high you go in general, then going down is a part of going up, and is perfectly ok. Just don't race to get to B in the last week of the season.
this isn't true if you get points by winning tours though.
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On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.
That's a pretty cool way to think of it.
My solution is to keep playing. I have my regular account (Durak) and I started a new acc once I got to D+. With the new account I went 16-1. The next few days I went from 16-1 to 16-24. This could have been because I wasn't actually a D+ level player at the time. Or, I could have been playing against people who were better than D+, or got cheesed a lot, or whatever. The point is that you end up learning more when you lose and so your record doesn't matter. That acc is now back up to 34-26ish.
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You have to realize its not like an academic test but more of a place to practice.
I got through the fear by losing and playing alot of games. Losing in all sorts of scenarios and getting my record smashed left and right until I didn't care anymore, and that's when I started to notice massive jumps in my game.
Also don't emotionally attach to it, don't overdo it, and always play each game with no expectations.
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bleh, i have the same problem sometimes, some sessions i just dont care and play till im done, but sometimes when i get a shiny new rank i dont wanna lose it TT, like people said already when that happens i just take a new account and raise it to the same level, and just play on it all the time, thus keeping my shiny original rank untouched, I know its stupid to be scared of losing your rank when its just practicing to get better and playing vs better players, but i cant help it.
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It's a pride thing really. Once you've got that high you feel like you've accomplished something, and you don't want to see it fall.
I had this same problem for a while too. You just need to try your best to forget about it, and just keep playing.
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just think about players with B account and a stats like 160-130 ¬¬
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On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.
That is a good way to think about it. In essence, you're playing random people, and you are basically betting points that you are better than them. You shouldn't be afraid of winning or losing the points- they're just currency. Even better, the points all reset back down to 0 at the start of the next season.
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On October 10 2008 04:43 ArtyK.TeMiL wrote:
just think about players with B account and a stats like 160-130 ¬¬
i think the ones u are things of is 160-220 
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I have this problem too, man! I will get like C- and then reset my stats or something, lol. Or I'll just stop playing and start playing on another account.
>_<!
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On October 10 2008 04:49 waterdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you. That is a good way to think about it. In essence, you're playing random people, and you are basically betting points that you are better than them. You shouldn't be afraid of winning or losing the points- they're just currency. Even better, the points all reset back down to 0 at the start of the next season.
Definetely this is a good way to think about iccup that I hadn't realised.
I think too that it's a matter of pride ( stupid pride ), but I can't help to think like this. I try to avoid this type of thinking but its my nature. Anyways, thank you for all your answer, I really appreciate them.
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I used to feel the same way as you do but I've since then reevaluated my mentality, and now simply play for experience, rather than a letter rating.
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On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.
Omg, this is my new quote.. I have a similar problem as like the OP but its completely different but I just dont play Iccup as good as I usually do in hamachi/offline/bnet for some reason
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On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.
That is fucking genius.
On October 10 2008 03:33 YPang wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2008 03:25 micronesia wrote:
One way you can think about it is.... if you can get up to a certain rating... no matter how far down you fall due to consecutive losses, you'll eventually get back up to that original rating. This is true even before you consider that the season gets easier as it progresses. If your goal is to raise your rank very quickly, then it's understandable to get nervous once your rank gets high, but if you are just doing ladder to see how high you go in general, then going down is a part of going up, and is perfectly ok. Just don't race to get to B in the last week of the season. hm.. I've actually felt similar fear as the OP, and i think this mindset is actually very good... o,o
Lmao GS, no it isn't. I can recall two-three seasons where you hit C- then stopped, following season did the same at C and you'll probably do it again at C+ this season. Stop the madness.
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On October 10 2008 05:15 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you. That is fucking genius. Show nested quote +On October 10 2008 03:33 YPang wrote:On October 10 2008 03:25 micronesia wrote:
One way you can think about it is.... if you can get up to a certain rating... no matter how far down you fall due to consecutive losses, you'll eventually get back up to that original rating. This is true even before you consider that the season gets easier as it progresses. If your goal is to raise your rank very quickly, then it's understandable to get nervous once your rank gets high, but if you are just doing ladder to see how high you go in general, then going down is a part of going up, and is perfectly ok. Just don't race to get to B in the last week of the season. hm.. I've actually felt similar fear as the OP, and i think this mindset is actually very good... o,o Lmao GS, no it isn't. I can recall two-three seasons where you hit C- then stopped, following season did the same at C and you'll probably do it again at C+ this season. Stop the madness.
I have no idea how what you just said showed that the mindset isn't good...
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Just put it inside your head that if you don't practice you'll never improve. When you're afraid to play just think about how much better player you could be if you weren't afraid. That should motivate you ^^
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Yeah I agree my post made little sense.
I guess if it's what you want, you cannot argue that the mindset is negative. Yet, I would say that it's a disadvantage to always worry about losing.
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On October 10 2008 05:10 InfeSteD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you. Omg, this is my new quote.. I have a similar problem as like the OP but its completely different but I just dont play Iccup as good as I usually do in hamachi/offline/bnet for some reason
Tch. I said it in my blog months ago but nobody noticed.
Glad people appreciate my wisdom... eventually.
:D
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I wish I was a B player, because I would take advantage of that and try to play all the greats like Brat Ok, Strelok, Mondragon, JF, Nony, ret, Cloud, Horror, White Ra. And all those other great foreigners.
Man, It would be awesome to be at least semi close to that level.
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On October 10 2008 03:21 Mutalisk wrote:
I have been playing ladder for a long time now, but I can't do anything to not have fear of the ladder itself.
I like to play starcraft, and to play against people. But I have a very big opponent, and it's myself. I play bw to improve so I always try to play the maximum games possible.
However, whenever I have a good nick with good stats or I begin to rise in ranks I don't play anymore. I have fear in losing points that I have done a huge effort to gain and I always end playing just the minimum to be C/C+ and I have time to be more than that, but I don't have guts.
Any of you have had this problem and have resolved it?
Yes I have had the problem, No I still haven't resolved it >_<
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On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.
this post just changed the way i see iccup
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On October 10 2008 07:11 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2008 05:10 InfeSteD wrote:On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you. Omg, this is my new quote.. I have a similar problem as like the OP but its completely different but I just dont play Iccup as good as I usually do in hamachi/offline/bnet for some reason Tch. I said it in my blog months ago but nobody noticed. Glad people appreciate my wisdom... eventually. :D
Hey, I noticed! Don't disregard me! T_T
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On October 10 2008 03:35 Kwark wrote:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you.
genius!
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I have the exact same problem, so i switched to dota.
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I am exactly like the op.
Every season I get 4 accounts to c+ with 60-65% win ratio's and quit playing on all of them but one. Then I get one to b-. Call it a good season and quit.
I have huge trouble accepting a 50% winrate at b-. I haven't overcome it,but I just got 2 accounts to C one to C+ and one is c-. I think I'm going to play the c+ one until I get B.
Although the c- one is for korean hours when C/C+ users of all races beat me 50% or more t.t
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I have it worse. I don't play iCCup at all for fear of losing. I'm 2-0 this season.
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