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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-27 20:13:56
May 27 2007 20:11 GMT
#1
I am going to be in China for the next month or so, and hopefully I'll still be able to browse the forums a little bit. After that, I'm back in NJ/NYC for the summer then off to law school at Michigan University in Ann Arbor. This probably means no more playing BW, and a huge drop in activity level, but I highly doubt I'll be able to fully stay away.

When I realized I wouldn't have full, 24/7 internet access in China the first thing I thought about was that I wouldn't be able to browse the forums here or follow the Korean ProGaming scene or check out all the fresh new relevant content in the SC2 forum. Just kidding about that last one.

It made me reflect back on what made this place so unique that it motivates so many people to do such selfless things, whether about ProGaming or whatever. TL.net is more than just an internet forum and it's almost doing a disservice to it to label it that. Could I have predicted that when I first started lurking in 2001 or when I joined in 2003 that I'd fully expect to be posting here six years later, or that it's not hard to see myself still visiting in 2020?

The most underrated aspect here is the format, coloring, and simplistic but aesthetically pleasing design. "Clean and simple" seems to be what Naz founded this site on, and as we see new features being added constantly, the general theme hasn't changed. The content speaks for itself, and no amount of huge flashy banners or crazy user icons can change that.

I've said this before, but there's a great balance here between random stupid threads/replies and genuine, on topic discussion. This is all because of the mod team and the relatively loose moderation style that puts trust in people rather than hardline rules. It's rare when you can actually see your moderators' personalities. They're not just big ego robot police who roam around banning. You can reason with them, discuss with them, and argue as long as it's done maturely. The mods here actually listen, post, and accept opinions of others to a degree that I've never seen elsewhere. This is because the mods are on average older and more mature than the rest of the posters, but it's also because all the mods are simply nice, reasonable people. It's a testament to how good the admins here are at selecting people they can put their trust in. In the history of this site, the number of moderators that have been demoted or had their powers taken away is zero, and it wouldn't surprise me if that number never rose.

Add to that a little bit of drama. We all secretly like the drama. Admit it. Too much is bad, but too little is boring. But in reality you don't rush to click that "Girl Help" topic to actually read the content, you want to see how everyone reacted. You want to see flames and counterflames, but because you actually care about the opinions of some of those making posts in there. This is where TL.net becomes awesome, because you're a part of this community where people actually remember your "personality" whether it's real or not. I realize that not everyone wishes or comes here to be that involved, but that's why I feel TL is worth it to me. Without that, who cares what score you got in LiquiBet or what happened last week when Savior played Terran or who made that hilarious/stupid/embarrassing post or thread?

It's funny that my first account here was banned almost instantaneously. Flash forward to a few years later and I'm on a three way MSN chat with babo and wow and we're discussing why LiquiScoop shouldn't be too crude or circus-like because it represents us to our peers and represents TL to an extent. If you told me that I'd value peoples' opinions that I'd never met over the internet so much, I would not have believed you.

Then again, if you told me that sometime in my future I'd be sitting in my apartment in New York watching a video game tournament on Korean television at 5:00 am with four strangers I had never met until that day, I'd never believe you either.

But when I get back in July, I wouldn't hesitate one bit to do it again, but right after I check what's going on in the forums, because there are four weeks of threads for me to catch up on.

****
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-27 20:53:27
May 27 2007 20:51 GMT
#2
I can hear mitsy grinding his teeth and writhing in pain right now as he reads what you wrote about moderators being reasonable persons and how discussion with them is so easy and they accept your opinion and so forth.

Not that I disagree but man that sound is awesome ^^
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 27 2007 20:56 GMT
#3
Then again, if you told me that sometime in my future I'd be sitting in my apartment in New York watching a video game tournament on Korean television at 5:00 am with four strangers I had never met until that day, I'd never believe you either.


=D =D =D
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 27 2007 21:01 GMT
#4
FYI you don't know how awkward it was trying to describe that to the rest of my team, who were wondering where I slipped off to that night. "Oh...well I got on the subway with some random kid I've never met - and hardly talked to - but knew on the Internet from Columbia, went to some weird place in Brooklyn, and while hopelessly lost listened to the directions from someone else who I hardly knew while freezing my hands off. We then played Super Smash Brothers Melee and Starcraft for a couple hours before watching Korean professional Starcraft for two hours or so before I collapsed for an hour of sleep...."

Yeah.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
May 27 2007 21:33 GMT
#5
Cheers!
Moderator<:3-/-<
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 27 2007 21:44 GMT
#6
where are you going to in china
hong kong? olololo
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
May 27 2007 21:50 GMT
#7
all over, i have relatives in every major city. i have to visit all in a month before i go to law school, when ill be basically locked down for 3 years.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 27 2007 23:33 GMT
#8
<3
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-27 23:48:02
May 27 2007 23:47 GMT
#9
Very nice read. Good job on it!

TL is indeed far more than just a StarCraft forum. I still love moderating and posting here, even if it's been so long since i actively followed or played the game.

<3 TL
Moderator
Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3818 Posts
May 28 2007 00:37 GMT
#10
Long live TL and Scoop 4 lyf.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20132 Posts
May 28 2007 00:42 GMT
#11
Yea, law school at UofM...you're gonna have 0 free time I went to the campus tour and saw the law buildings...really nice, but as our guide informed us, extremely hard. (i live 20 minutes from ann arbor, maybe i'll run into you )
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
May 28 2007 00:47 GMT
#12
good luck in law school
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
May 28 2007 00:53 GMT
#13
Good blogs, all of them. You raise the standards.
Valar dohaeris.
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
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