• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:14
CEST 10:14
KST 17:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview6[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !7Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Tulbo's ASL S21 Ro8 Post-Review
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 OutLive 25 (RTS Game)
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1344 users

A long road to Starcraft

Blogs > [F_]aths
Post a Reply
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 23:55:01
January 29 2011 23:29 GMT
#1
From vanilla Starcraft to Wings of Liberty

As Starcraft came out in 1998, my thoughts where “Oh, an exploitation title to get the Warcraft series into a space setting”. Since Warcraft was by no means original, I saw no need for me to play that “Star”craft (gosh, they copied even half of the name.)

Now they offer three factions? So does Dune 2. Dune 2 at least has some original lore. I saw some SC artwork and the shameless rip-offs from the Starship Trooper and Alien franchises. Why should I buy a random Science Fiction strategy game?

But then I bought SC anyway (it’s in space! Science Fiction! I was tired of the medieval settings) and played some campaign missions. To be more precise all the terran missions and halfway through the zerg campaign. I liked the zerg for being slimy and organic and vile and just plain disgusting, but I lost interest because the missions became too difficult for me.

I did play some multiplayer games, but without any strategy. I always picked zerg, because I liked them in the campaign, and teched through the tree and saw some biiig monsters available to morph. I thought: “Wow, let’s build some of them!” My ultralisks stomped the friend who was really angry about that – because he tried to play with an actual strategy.

Broodwar was released, everyone was raving about the medic and how strong they are combined with marines. I thought “marines are supposed to be cannon fodder anyway, why bother to heal them?” At that time, I did not buy the expansion to the mediocre game. I mean, Age of Empires offers at least decent graphics with high-res SVGA modes. I played some AoE games through the MS zone service. AoE offered some interesting strategic options here and could be play on randomly generated maps, so no-one had an unfair advantage just through memorizing map features.

I also played Command&Conquer, the original one, in 320x200 resolution, in a LAN tournament and performed not too bad.

Just to complete my Blizzard collection, I bought Broodwar eventually and bought the original game again because I lost the CD. (Later I purchased both CDs again twice, since I kept losing my CDs.) But the game I was playing now, is called Warcraft 3.

I remember they announced SC2 in 2007. Blizzard denied their most important RTS improvement – the hero system – to Starcraft, so I stayed with WC3.


Watching e-sports games live

I saw Grubby at WWI 2008 in Paris, where he won versus Sky. Two nice games, with a chain wave at the end. Would I ever get more excitement? I did not had the chance to play the SC2 Alpha at the WWI the because my knees hurt that day and I did not want to wait in line.

But I read the SC2 Alpha reports from OgerAffe. He described in detail any game he played. It was obvious that Blizzard tried really hard to fulfil the promises of the name.

In 2008 I was also in Cologne, to watch the WCG grand finals in WC3. I wanted to cheer for Grubby and had a little poster on which I wrote “Grubby FTW”. At the player’s booth I met a nice girl (which made a photograph of me, later it turned out that she was Cassandra.) Before the semifinale Grubby vs. Hot started, the king of orcs was going into the audience to meet his fans. I saw the chance to meet my hero in person. He signed on the backside of my poster, I turned it around. He somehow recognized it and told me that he saw me on a picture. I just stared at him … the Blademaster himself is speaking to me! He thought I would not understand English and switched to German: “Ich habe dich im Internet gesehen”. Now I was completely baffled. Grubby speaks German …? I do not know if I said anything before I left the scene, at least I have his signature to prove I actually did meet him and that it was not a weird dream.

Before the finals, I added “2004 2008” on my poster. Grubby applied some pressure in the first game, destroyed some moon wells with raiders, but Moon was able to win nonetheless. Grubby however took the other two games home. In the last game, his Blademaster survived with just 2 HP and his Tauren Chieftain go to level 6.

Grubby was world champion, I witnessed it and even met him. YES!!!

Also the german player Yaws did really well, he crushed Sase and Infi in his group stage booth matches. Actually he only lost to Grubby in his group. I also saw Sonkie, but did not try to talk to him … he looked not very happy about his performance.


A revelation

Just to get a good seat for the Warcraft matches, me and my friend were also going to the Starcraft matches which where played just before Warcraft.

There was a ZvT match. I think it was still in the group phase. I don’t remember much of the match, and the thing I do remember, I remember only in slow-motion and enlarged.

Let me try to explain.

The zerg flew his stacked mutas near to marines. The marines began to aim the target and started the aiming animation. The muta cluster hitted a marine, killed him, and retreated before the terran was able to punish the zerg. THAT IS CRAAAZY!!! I recognized that the game is supposed to be Starcraft, but they played it completely different. If Warcraft 3 I could at least attempt to mimic pro style play (of course with not much success.)

I do not remember which Jaedong game was played as booth match (may be not the one I just described), but I do remember that his match turned me to a die-hard Jaedong fan. He showed what is actually possible with zerg. Beeing at three different locations on the map at the same time. Controlling single zergling units. Expanding while attacking. I would never have known! As little as I understood of the game, I was in awe of such skills.

The finals were a BO3 of Luxury vs. Stork. And even though Stork lost, I see Protoss different since then.

Particularly how zerg is played by korean pros, sparked my interest in Starcraft. I bought it again, this time as digital download so I got rid of the issue with lost CDs. I performed not well, but from time to time I logged on to Battle.net or ICCup on which I “managed” a solid D- ranking.

Now, the thing is: I learnt from the original C&C to have a build order. I learnt from Age of Empires to boost the worker count and build a booming economy. I learnt from Red Alert 2 to apply early pressure. I learnt from Warcraft 3 to properly control units in fight. The truth is, i learnt nothing.

With following no particular style and being as traditional as an RTS game can get, Starcraft showed me how full of fail I am. I was smart enough to discover for myself that mutas do very well together with speedlings because you can cover both air and ground with mobile units, but I was not able to actually win games with this strategy. Only an early hydra push seemed to work for me ... and those occasions that my strategy worked, were quite rare.

I always played WC3 for fun and did so until SC2 beta started. I like the luck factor of item drops and the hero system in general. I like to pick the horde or the undead scourge and stomp Night Elves or Humans. For a long time I played 2v2 arranged team with a friend. I watched a lot WC3 matches of ESL-TV (with premium account.) Over the time, me and my friend watched several hundred WC3 replays. But now I had to split my time between Warcraft and Broodwar. I began to watch alot of Broodwar ESL major series matches on ESL-TV and survived the Lindsay Lohan trash talk of the caster duo.

My hunger for Starcraft was not satisfied, though. I began to watch Diggity casts and even korean Vods just to see more games. I downloaded Vods through torrent URLs I found on Teamliquid. I noticed a recurring caster with a really tasteless nick.

Jaedong continued to inspire me. He is able to use, abuse and exploit the zerg to a sick degree. I remember a match I saw as Vod, where he assaulted a dragoon force with mutas and inflicted serious damage. Even though he lost that particular game, I was again left in awe of his skills.

Starcraft was no longer just a computer game to me. I began to see Starcraft as the medium of which mechanical skill, awareness and stratetic superiority can be put to a test.

It is becomes part of everyday

As the beta was getting closer in summer 2009, my BW interest increased even more. I played some games versus a friend. I would do so until today if not SC2 has been started. I got my beta key in the first wave. From the first match on, I noticed how developed the game already was. I lost the first 10 or so games. I also remember my first win. It was on Kulas Ravine versus a terran: He managed to kill my ultralisks but I was able to get Brood Lords.

On ESL-TV, I did watch any SC2 match during the entire beta phase. Players with strange names like Socke or TheLittleOne rose to fame.

Then, the most unexpected thing happened: Team Liquid approached TLO. Now it was clear that everything followed a secret plan and that TLO, in fact, means “Team Liquid Owns”.

The number of quality tournaments exploded. The TSL2 got me back to BW for the time being. I cheered for Mondragon who performed exceptionally well and got second place.

I ordered the Collector’s Edition of Wings of Liberty.

Then, finally, it was true: I was actually installing the retail version of Starcraft 2.

Soon I found out that I still suck hard, but that is another story. However, anything would probably have happen without me if I would not have witnessed insane korean muta micro.

***
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
January 29 2011 23:47 GMT
#2
Yeah, BW has its really kick ass moments.

I felt like crying when it was the first Fantasy vs Jaedong finals last year or so. Those tanks (On outsider if i recall) turning on those siege mode for the ultimate and final push. FOR HUMANITY! lol

My beginnings to Starcraft are humbler than yours :O. TLO really has a sneaky plan indeed! lol
I live by the LoL
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
January 30 2011 01:18 GMT
#3
On January 30 2011 08:47 Marksman wrote:
Yeah, BW has its really kick ass moments.

I felt like crying when it was the first Fantasy vs Jaedong finals last year or so. Those tanks (On outsider if i recall) turning on those siege mode for the ultimate and final push. FOR HUMANITY! lol

My beginnings to Starcraft are humbler than yours :O. TLO really has a sneaky plan indeed! lol


that was the 2008-2009 finals SKT vs OZ
Writer
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
January 30 2011 16:34 GMT
#4
Originally I planned to also describe my experience since the WoL launch, but then I decided to focus on what me got into the game.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 33574
GuemChi 2279
JulyZerg 73
Movie 61
Mind 51
Shinee 48
zelot 33
yabsab 25
Shine 22
Nal_rA 13
[ Show more ]
Bale 11
Dota 2
monkeys_forever225
NeuroSwarm131
League of Legends
summit1g9059
JimRising 587
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K888
Other Games
gofns7010
WinterStarcraft561
amsayoshi58
KnowMe45
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL27526
Other Games
gamesdonequick2311
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH231
• Sammyuel 44
• LUISG 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis1886
• Jankos748
• Stunt509
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1h 46m
RSL Revival
1h 46m
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
3h 46m
ByuN vs Rogue
Solar vs Ryung
Zoun vs Percival
Cure vs SHIN
BSL
10h 46m
Dewalt vs DragOn
Aether vs Jimin
GSL
23h 46m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 1h
Soma vs Leta
Wardi Open
1d 3h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 7h
OSC
1d 15h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
BSL
6 days
GSL
6 days
Cure vs TBD
TBD vs Maru
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W6
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.