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When Python and Desti are maps of the week, I really dont want to play at all that week.
anyone else getting this?
Protoss are from Python, Terran are from Desti
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Ideas
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When Python and Desti are maps of the week, I really dont want to play at all that week. anyone else getting this? | ||
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EsX_Raptor
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TheAntZ
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Ideas
United States8091 Posts
On July 29 2009 06:26 TheAntZ wrote: Why is 2 gate such a popular strat in PvZ on python? starting locations are pretty close except for cross-positions (and even then not very far away) | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On July 29 2009 06:26 TheAntZ wrote: Why is 2 gate such a popular strat in PvZ on python? because of the wide choke IE semi easy ling run byes and vulnerable to 2/3 hatch hydra all in. And yeah im very tired of 2 gate and 1 gate tech TT i wanna play a more relaxed early game and transition to a macro war | ||
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Khaymus
United States750 Posts
On July 29 2009 06:25 EsX_Raptor wrote: this is why i quit iccup Where else is a good place to play? | ||
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ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
brain server, fish server, us west | ||
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Steelflight-Rx
United States1389 Posts
EDIT: and I don't 2 gate on python.. | ||
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Deleted User 31060
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edit: that doesn't include python or desti, thank god | ||
Arrian
United States889 Posts
As for Terran, I just don't play destination. I don't like that map at all, though I know a lot of people do. | ||
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
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Phelix
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Arrian
United States889 Posts
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micronesia
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Neivler
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Tehinf
United States192 Posts
On July 29 2009 06:59 Phelix wrote: Zergs are from Heartbreak Ridge and God's Garden. medusa | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On July 29 2009 06:52 ChaseR wrote: Zerg are from Blue Storm? <3 | ||
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Chef
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benutbutter
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
On July 29 2009 06:30 StorrZerg wrote: because of the wide choke IE semi easy ling run byes and vulnerable to 2/3 hatch hydra all in. And yeah im very tired of 2 gate and 1 gate tech TT i wanna play a more relaxed early game and transition to a macro war Lair zerg mid/early game too imba, 2 gate allows sick pressure (early win if they fuck up and power too hard) and very easy denial of third while allowing a simple 2nd. FE lets zerg roam very free while P does a cookie-cutter beat all kinda strategy in hopes of securing a 3rd base. With 1 base opener on Python, zerg can't safely take 3rd unless they know how to stop 1 base P and most Z now don't know the hax so it's a good opener. | ||
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esla_sol
United States756 Posts
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On July 29 2009 08:09 esla_sol wrote: im pretty sure protoss are from auir. python is just a map made by kespa and popularized in the korean leagues. Really? I'm pretty sure Protoss aren't from auir. Also, I pretty much always place third hat in nat on Python ZvP. :/ | ||
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LuckyFool
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clazziquai
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
I also offrace on python, I basically play all my games on python unless I play people on #teamliquid couse they hate it. I FE on python, but I hate all the crap I get for it.. like hydra break, or fast drops in the main. I've found that skipping stargate and go straight for 4 gate zealot/archon build to be the safest, couse I just cant power cannon fast enough if I see 2 hatch hydra. | ||
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BoTf.Smoke
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Epicfailguy
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On July 29 2009 07:52 MiniRoman wrote: its a horrible opener, stopping 2 gate pressure is easy with modern zergling micro, and without the early corsair protoss is in the dark. Zerg can do ANY tech transition he wants- lurker contain, drop, muta, whatever, and crush the protoss. Any kind of 1 base opening is known for giving good aggression/harras potential early game but giving an almost crippling mid game because its just so damn vulnerable. Which, because of the bad mid game, means it has a bad late game. Go one base against bad zergs? Sure. Against good zergs you are giving them a free win.Lair zerg mid/early game too imba, 2 gate allows sick pressure (early win if they fuck up and power too hard) and very easy denial of third while allowing a simple 2nd. FE lets zerg roam very free while P does a cookie-cutter beat all kinda strategy in hopes of securing a 3rd base. With 1 base opener on Python, zerg can't safely take 3rd unless they know how to stop 1 base P and most Z now don't know the hax so it's a good opener. | ||
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ReCharge
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
On July 29 2009 09:20 Epicfailguy wrote: I dont really think python is a protoss friendly map, I think its got more with the fact that protoss is a noob race, and python is a noob map, mix it togheter and BAM c- noob like me Python isn't a noob map, it's a classic. >< I don't see why a "noob" would be more likely to win on python than on a newer map, especially going on the assumption that their opponent is not a noob and has therefor already played 1000 hours on python. If a new player picks up a map right as it comes out and finds a way to exploit it before others have, that's the best chance he has of beating a veteran. | ||
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New Zealand6138 Posts
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micronesia
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
On July 29 2009 08:17 Harem wrote: Really? I'm pretty sure Protoss aren't from auir. Also, I pretty much always place third hat in nat on Python ZvP. :/ I see what you did there... or rather what you did with what he did... *mindfuked* | ||
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Tom Phoenix
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On July 29 2009 07:15 micronesia wrote: I hate when zergs complain that protoss players aren't doing fe. I could see a zerg complaining that they always do fe, but that's another issue. On the contrary, I can easily see low-level Zergs complaining that Protoss players are not doing FE. Generally, low-level Protoss do not know how to do a FE opening or related builds properly. Plus, their scouting tends to fail them. For that reason, they leave themselves immensely vulnerable to practically anything Zerg throws at them. Hydra all-ins and 3 hatch Mutas in particular are devastating and game-ending since the Protoss player very often will not have enough Storms or anti-air to deal with it. | ||
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micronesia
United States24670 Posts
On July 29 2009 21:08 Tom Phoenix wrote: On the contrary, I can easily see low-level Zergs complaining that Protoss players are not doing FE. Generally, low-level Protoss do not know how to do a FE opening or related builds properly. Plus, their scouting tends to fail them. For that reason, they leave themselves immensely vulnerable to practically anything Zerg throws at them. Hydra all-ins and 3 hatch Mutas in particular are devastating and game-ending since the Protoss player very often will not have enough Storms or anti-air to deal with it. Er... I'm not sure what your point is. Zergs shouldn't complain that protoss aren't doing strategies that they are terrible at. The only thing that I would be okay with them complaining about is that the other race forces the game into a very similar/boring style every time. But if the other race is mixing it up, or playing different strategies depending on the map, then they just need to deal. | ||
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