• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:21
CEST 10:21
KST 17:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting3[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent6Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO65.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)68Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition325.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)119
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) Maximizing Code Coverage for Reliable Software TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle WardiTV Mondays SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More
Brood War
General
Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions BSL Season 21 Whose hotkey signature is this? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Any rep analyzer that shows resources situation?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal B [ASL20] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Current Meta BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Siegecraft - a new perspective TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Men's Fashion Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Sex and weight loss US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Inbreeding: Why Do We Do It…
Peanutsc
From Tilt to Ragequit:The Ps…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1144 users

Protoss are from Python, Terran are from Desti

Blogs > Ideas
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8132 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 21:22:22
July 28 2009 21:21 GMT
#1
Lately I've been playing a lot of ICCUP, and since I cannot make games due to firewall I have to join. Basically pub games are dissected into 3 categories: MOTW, Python, and Destination. It seems like just about every time I join a game on Python a Protoss made it and every time I join a game on Destination a Terran made it. Goddamn I'm so tired of playing vs 2-gate on Python and mech on desti

When Python and Desti are maps of the week, I really dont want to play at all that week.

anyone else getting this?

Free Palestine
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
July 28 2009 21:25 GMT
#2
this is why i quit iccup
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
July 28 2009 21:26 GMT
#3
Why is 2 gate such a popular strat in PvZ on python?
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8132 Posts
July 28 2009 21:30 GMT
#4
On July 29 2009 06:26 TheAntZ wrote:
Why is 2 gate such a popular strat in PvZ on python?


starting locations are pretty close except for cross-positions (and even then not very far away)
Free Palestine
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 28 2009 21:30 GMT
#5
On July 29 2009 06:26 TheAntZ wrote:
Why is 2 gate such a popular strat in PvZ on python?


because of the wide choke IE semi easy ling run byes and vulnerable to 2/3 hatch hydra all in.

And yeah im very tired of 2 gate and 1 gate tech TT i wanna play a more relaxed early game and transition to a macro war
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Khaymus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States750 Posts
July 28 2009 21:34 GMT
#6
On July 29 2009 06:25 EsX_Raptor wrote:
this is why i quit iccup


Where else is a good place to play?
Let them say we lived in the time of Boxer, Emperor of Terran. Let them say we lived in the time of Nal_rA, Dreamer of Protoss. Let them say we lived in the time of Savior, Master of the Zerg.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 28 2009 21:44 GMT
#7
On July 29 2009 06:34 Khaymus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 06:25 EsX_Raptor wrote:
this is why i quit iccup


Where else is a good place to play?


brain server, fish server, us west
Sullifam
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 21:46:24
July 28 2009 21:45 GMT
#8
i'm protoss and i play all maps!

EDIT: and I don't 2 gate on python..
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 21:47:52
July 28 2009 21:47 GMT
#9
I play on CSL maps.

edit: that doesn't include python or desti, thank god
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
July 28 2009 21:50 GMT
#10
Haha...I had your same problem with the firewall. I ironically had the same python problem with protoss...my win rate was something abysmal like 20 percent. I came back from school without the firewalling and started making my own games and playing against FE toss. Now my win rate is like 60%.

As for Terran, I just don't play destination. I don't like that map at all, though I know a lot of people do.
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
July 28 2009 21:52 GMT
#11
Zerg are from Blue Storm?
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
July 28 2009 21:59 GMT
#12
Zergs are from Heartbreak Ridge and God's Garden.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
July 28 2009 22:10 GMT
#13
Zergs are from Andromeda, really. That's a lovely Zerg map. Unfriendly to terrans, though.
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24709 Posts
July 28 2009 22:15 GMT
#14
I hate when zergs complain that protoss players aren't doing fe. I could see a zerg complaining that they always do fe, but that's another issue.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
July 28 2009 22:19 GMT
#15
I am Zerg. And I almost always make Desti. But I dont play ladder that much, but when I do, it is sweat Destination
I pwn noobs
Tehinf
Profile Joined September 2008
United States192 Posts
July 28 2009 22:21 GMT
#16
On July 29 2009 06:59 Phelix wrote:
Zergs are from Heartbreak Ridge and God's Garden.

medusa
"Good, better, best. Never let it rest until your good is better, and your better is best."
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 28 2009 22:23 GMT
#17
On July 29 2009 06:52 ChaseR wrote:
Zerg are from Blue Storm?

<3
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 28 2009 22:29 GMT
#18
When I played last season, pretty much every game I played was a ZvP on Destination. With the P making the map. And me being the Zerg...
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
benutbutter
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States66 Posts
July 28 2009 22:42 GMT
#19
I'm Protoss, and I can't make games .
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
July 28 2009 22:52 GMT
#20
On July 29 2009 06:30 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 06:26 TheAntZ wrote:
Why is 2 gate such a popular strat in PvZ on python?


because of the wide choke IE semi easy ling run byes and vulnerable to 2/3 hatch hydra all in.

And yeah im very tired of 2 gate and 1 gate tech TT i wanna play a more relaxed early game and transition to a macro war


Lair zerg mid/early game too imba, 2 gate allows sick pressure (early win if they fuck up and power too hard) and very easy denial of third while allowing a simple 2nd. FE lets zerg roam very free while P does a cookie-cutter beat all kinda strategy in hopes of securing a 3rd base. With 1 base opener on Python, zerg can't safely take 3rd unless they know how to stop 1 base P and most Z now don't know the hax so it's a good opener.
Nak Allstar.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Patches' TLMC21 Bash #2
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 112
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2582
Barracks 646
actioN 378
Larva 287
PianO 211
BeSt 97
EffOrt 93
ToSsGirL 61
JulyZerg 58
Bale 54
[ Show more ]
Sharp 32
sorry 24
ajuk12(nOOB) 20
Sacsri 12
Hm[arnc] 10
NotJumperer 0
League of Legends
JimRising 782
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2690
ScreaM1318
shoxiejesuss510
Stewie2K161
Other Games
summit1g7461
ceh9390
C9.Mang0383
Pyrionflax143
Tasteless118
NeuroSwarm28
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL6291
Other Games
gamesdonequick1191
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• OhrlRock 110
• LUISG 20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift2150
• Jankos1574
• Lourlo1017
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
1h 39m
Soma vs Bisu
OSC
5h 39m
OSC
9h 39m
MaxPax vs Gerald
Solar vs Krystianer
PAPI vs Lemon
Ryung vs Moja
Nice vs NightPhoenix
Cham vs TBD
MaNa vs TriGGeR
PiGosaur Monday
15h 39m
OSC
1d 14h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Safe House 2
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Safe House 2
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.