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Protoss are from Python, Terran are from Desti

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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8152 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 21:22:22
July 28 2009 21:21 GMT
#1
Lately I've been playing a lot of ICCUP, and since I cannot make games due to firewall I have to join. Basically pub games are dissected into 3 categories: MOTW, Python, and Destination. It seems like just about every time I join a game on Python a Protoss made it and every time I join a game on Destination a Terran made it. Goddamn I'm so tired of playing vs 2-gate on Python and mech on desti

When Python and Desti are maps of the week, I really dont want to play at all that week.

anyone else getting this?

Free Palestine
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
July 28 2009 21:25 GMT
#2
this is why i quit iccup
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
July 28 2009 21:26 GMT
#3
Why is 2 gate such a popular strat in PvZ on python?
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8152 Posts
July 28 2009 21:30 GMT
#4
On July 29 2009 06:26 TheAntZ wrote:
Why is 2 gate such a popular strat in PvZ on python?


starting locations are pretty close except for cross-positions (and even then not very far away)
Free Palestine
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 28 2009 21:30 GMT
#5
On July 29 2009 06:26 TheAntZ wrote:
Why is 2 gate such a popular strat in PvZ on python?


because of the wide choke IE semi easy ling run byes and vulnerable to 2/3 hatch hydra all in.

And yeah im very tired of 2 gate and 1 gate tech TT i wanna play a more relaxed early game and transition to a macro war
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Khaymus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States750 Posts
July 28 2009 21:34 GMT
#6
On July 29 2009 06:25 EsX_Raptor wrote:
this is why i quit iccup


Where else is a good place to play?
Let them say we lived in the time of Boxer, Emperor of Terran. Let them say we lived in the time of Nal_rA, Dreamer of Protoss. Let them say we lived in the time of Savior, Master of the Zerg.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 28 2009 21:44 GMT
#7
On July 29 2009 06:34 Khaymus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 06:25 EsX_Raptor wrote:
this is why i quit iccup


Where else is a good place to play?


brain server, fish server, us west
Sullifam
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 21:46:24
July 28 2009 21:45 GMT
#8
i'm protoss and i play all maps!

EDIT: and I don't 2 gate on python..
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 21:47:52
July 28 2009 21:47 GMT
#9
I play on CSL maps.

edit: that doesn't include python or desti, thank god
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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
July 28 2009 21:50 GMT
#10
Haha...I had your same problem with the firewall. I ironically had the same python problem with protoss...my win rate was something abysmal like 20 percent. I came back from school without the firewalling and started making my own games and playing against FE toss. Now my win rate is like 60%.

As for Terran, I just don't play destination. I don't like that map at all, though I know a lot of people do.
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ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
July 28 2009 21:52 GMT
#11
Zerg are from Blue Storm?
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Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
July 28 2009 21:59 GMT
#12
Zergs are from Heartbreak Ridge and God's Garden.
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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
July 28 2009 22:10 GMT
#13
Zergs are from Andromeda, really. That's a lovely Zerg map. Unfriendly to terrans, though.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
July 28 2009 22:15 GMT
#14
I hate when zergs complain that protoss players aren't doing fe. I could see a zerg complaining that they always do fe, but that's another issue.
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Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
July 28 2009 22:19 GMT
#15
I am Zerg. And I almost always make Desti. But I dont play ladder that much, but when I do, it is sweat Destination
I pwn noobs
Tehinf
Profile Joined September 2008
United States192 Posts
July 28 2009 22:21 GMT
#16
On July 29 2009 06:59 Phelix wrote:
Zergs are from Heartbreak Ridge and God's Garden.

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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 28 2009 22:23 GMT
#17
On July 29 2009 06:52 ChaseR wrote:
Zerg are from Blue Storm?

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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 28 2009 22:29 GMT
#18
When I played last season, pretty much every game I played was a ZvP on Destination. With the P making the map. And me being the Zerg...
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
benutbutter
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States66 Posts
July 28 2009 22:42 GMT
#19
I'm Protoss, and I can't make games .
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
July 28 2009 22:52 GMT
#20
On July 29 2009 06:30 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 06:26 TheAntZ wrote:
Why is 2 gate such a popular strat in PvZ on python?


because of the wide choke IE semi easy ling run byes and vulnerable to 2/3 hatch hydra all in.

And yeah im very tired of 2 gate and 1 gate tech TT i wanna play a more relaxed early game and transition to a macro war


Lair zerg mid/early game too imba, 2 gate allows sick pressure (early win if they fuck up and power too hard) and very easy denial of third while allowing a simple 2nd. FE lets zerg roam very free while P does a cookie-cutter beat all kinda strategy in hopes of securing a 3rd base. With 1 base opener on Python, zerg can't safely take 3rd unless they know how to stop 1 base P and most Z now don't know the hax so it's a good opener.
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