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Protoss are from Python, Terran are from Desti - Page 2

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esla_sol
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States756 Posts
July 28 2009 23:09 GMT
#21
im pretty sure protoss are from auir. python is just a map made by kespa and popularized in the korean leagues.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
July 28 2009 23:17 GMT
#22
On July 29 2009 08:09 esla_sol wrote:
im pretty sure protoss are from auir. python is just a map made by kespa and popularized in the korean leagues.

Really? I'm pretty sure Protoss aren't from auir.

Also, I pretty much always place third hat in nat on Python ZvP. :/
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 28 2009 23:19 GMT
#23
AIUR it's SPELLED AIUR OMFG. :D
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
July 28 2009 23:46 GMT
#24
Not necessarily, to me, I find most of my opponents to be playing Protoss. :p
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Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
July 29 2009 00:16 GMT
#25
I play toss and host on python :D
I also offrace on python, I basically play all my games on python unless I play people on #teamliquid couse they hate it.

I FE on python, but I hate all the crap I get for it.. like hydra break, or fast drops in the main.
I've found that skipping stargate and go straight for 4 gate zealot/archon build to be the safest, couse I just cant power cannon fast enough if I see 2 hatch hydra.
BoTf.Smoke
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3 Posts
July 29 2009 00:16 GMT
#26
What kind of router do you have? if you have a linksys i can fix the problem and ul be able to host. I know what you mean i was frustrated at ppl hosting there race imba map.
Blow shit up.
Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
July 29 2009 00:20 GMT
#27
I dont really think python is a protoss friendly map, I think its got more with the fact that protoss is a noob race, and python is a noob map, mix it togheter and BAM c- noob like me
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 29 2009 00:44 GMT
#28
On July 29 2009 07:52 MiniRoman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 06:30 StorrZerg wrote:
On July 29 2009 06:26 TheAntZ wrote:
Why is 2 gate such a popular strat in PvZ on python?


because of the wide choke IE semi easy ling run byes and vulnerable to 2/3 hatch hydra all in.

And yeah im very tired of 2 gate and 1 gate tech TT i wanna play a more relaxed early game and transition to a macro war


Lair zerg mid/early game too imba, 2 gate allows sick pressure (early win if they fuck up and power too hard) and very easy denial of third while allowing a simple 2nd. FE lets zerg roam very free while P does a cookie-cutter beat all kinda strategy in hopes of securing a 3rd base. With 1 base opener on Python, zerg can't safely take 3rd unless they know how to stop 1 base P and most Z now don't know the hax so it's a good opener.
its a horrible opener, stopping 2 gate pressure is easy with modern zergling micro, and without the early corsair protoss is in the dark. Zerg can do ANY tech transition he wants- lurker contain, drop, muta, whatever, and crush the protoss. Any kind of 1 base opening is known for giving good aggression/harras potential early game but giving an almost crippling mid game because its just so damn vulnerable. Which, because of the bad mid game, means it has a bad late game. Go one base against bad zergs? Sure. Against good zergs you are giving them a free win.
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ReCharge
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Philippines505 Posts
July 29 2009 02:09 GMT
#29
Dark Templars are from Medusa :D
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
July 29 2009 03:09 GMT
#30
On July 29 2009 09:20 Epicfailguy wrote:
I dont really think python is a protoss friendly map, I think its got more with the fact that protoss is a noob race, and python is a noob map, mix it togheter and BAM c- noob like me

Python isn't a noob map, it's a classic. ><

I don't see why a "noob" would be more likely to win on python than on a newer map, especially going on the assumption that their opponent is not a noob and has therefor already played 1000 hours on python. If a new player picks up a map right as it comes out and finds a way to exploit it before others have, that's the best chance he has of beating a veteran.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
July 29 2009 03:44 GMT
#31
if by "classic" you mean "BORING"
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 04:29:49
July 29 2009 04:29 GMT
#32
I've never found a map to be boring. Sure, some of them have big issues or can even be terrible, but never boring. The pacing of map pools over the years seems to cater to seven year olds with severe cases of attention deficit disorder.
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R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
July 29 2009 04:57 GMT
#33
On July 29 2009 08:17 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 08:09 esla_sol wrote:
im pretty sure protoss are from auir. python is just a map made by kespa and popularized in the korean leagues.

Really? I'm pretty sure Protoss aren't from auir.

Also, I pretty much always place third hat in nat on Python ZvP. :/

I see what you did there... or rather what you did with what he did... *mindfuked*
ggyo...
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
July 29 2009 12:08 GMT
#34
On July 29 2009 07:15 micronesia wrote:
I hate when zergs complain that protoss players aren't doing fe. I could see a zerg complaining that they always do fe, but that's another issue.


On the contrary, I can easily see low-level Zergs complaining that Protoss players are not doing FE. Generally, low-level Protoss do not know how to do a FE opening or related builds properly. Plus, their scouting tends to fail them. For that reason, they leave themselves immensely vulnerable to practically anything Zerg throws at them. Hydra all-ins and 3 hatch Mutas in particular are devastating and game-ending since the Protoss player very often will not have enough Storms or anti-air to deal with it.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
July 29 2009 15:41 GMT
#35
On July 29 2009 21:08 Tom Phoenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:15 micronesia wrote:
I hate when zergs complain that protoss players aren't doing fe. I could see a zerg complaining that they always do fe, but that's another issue.


On the contrary, I can easily see low-level Zergs complaining that Protoss players are not doing FE. Generally, low-level Protoss do not know how to do a FE opening or related builds properly. Plus, their scouting tends to fail them. For that reason, they leave themselves immensely vulnerable to practically anything Zerg throws at them. Hydra all-ins and 3 hatch Mutas in particular are devastating and game-ending since the Protoss player very often will not have enough Storms or anti-air to deal with it.

Er... I'm not sure what your point is.

Zergs shouldn't complain that protoss aren't doing strategies that they are terrible at. The only thing that I would be okay with them complaining about is that the other race forces the game into a very similar/boring style every time. But if the other race is mixing it up, or playing different strategies depending on the map, then they just need to deal.
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