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Introducing SC to a total newb
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
But srsly, I guess just let her play through the campaign to get a feel for the game, and then show her how to play once she gets good enough to at least understand what you are showing her. Also if she doesn't want to learn then you won't be able to force her. | ||
GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
On July 26 2009 23:34 AoN.DimSum wrote: *looks at liquidpedia* maybe he wants more advice. Liquipedia has some good build orders, and great general reading material. It's not so good at helping someone at 15 apm get up to 60/70 though. It's supposed to help people get from 40-60 apm up to like 180, and get up to C/C-. Umm. Since it's a friend, just try to see if you have any other friends that are interested, and have lan/battle.net nights. just play for fun, and make sure that your friend can get a feel for how every unit interacts/counters eachother (fastest is good for this). from there, if they want to get better, and they still seem interested after a few (10-20) hours of playing, introduce them to iccup. | ||
thedeadhaji
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konadora
Singapore66183 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On July 26 2009 23:34 AoN.DimSum wrote: *looks at liquidpedia* Really? Come on. Liquipedia is a bit advanced for someone who JUST started playing the game. On July 26 2009 23:41 hyde wrote: Tell her to play through the campaign, if she's as new as you say she is, she probably doesn't even know what race to pick. Once she's gone through the campaign and familiar with units/race then she can move onto Liquipedia to read up on builds and practice. She said she doesn't wanna play against computer, wants to go straight to playing against me. Yes, i know, its annoying, but I'd rather have another friend playing SC then avoid a tiny bit of annoyance. Shes watched me play and decided she wants to learn protoss (I see the jokes already) On July 26 2009 23:46 ghermination wrote: Obviously you should destroy her in 20 or 30 games in a row. That will definitely make her want to play. But srsly, I guess just let her play through the campaign to get a feel for the game, and then show her how to play once she gets good enough to at least understand what you are showing her. Also if she doesn't want to learn then you won't be able to force her. She does want to play, she just really doesnt wanna paly against comp for some reason -_- On July 26 2009 23:50 GHOSTCLAW wrote: maybe he wants more advice. Liquipedia has some good build orders, and great general reading material. It's not so good at helping someone at 15 apm get up to 60/70 though. It's supposed to help people get from 40-60 apm up to like 180, and get up to C/C-. This is the problem im having, she has like 20 apm, so i cant quite teach her BOs yet  On July 26 2009 23:50 GHOSTCLAW wrote: Umm. Since it's a friend, just try to see if you have any other friends that are interested, and have lan/battle.net nights. just play for fun, and make sure that your friend can get a feel for how every unit interacts/counters eachother (fastest is good for this). from there, if they want to get better, and they still seem interested after a few (10-20) hours of playing, introduce them to iccup. The thing is we live in bangladesh, the net is shit, so me and my friends never play against each other online, we meet up and LAN. I think i'll try the fastest idea though, thanks! On July 27 2009 00:00 konadora wrote: Honestly speaking, tell her to start with the campaign. The normal Starcraft campaign. Followed by the Brood War. It's the simplest way to get her to familiarize herself with the interface and the game. Teaching her by playing against her would only make her confused. I told her to...but she gets pissed if i tell her to play against comp...she just flat out refuses to learn by playing against comp and wants me to teach her. Thanks to everyone for the input! :D | ||
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
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Duke
United States1106 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
Then add more and more stuff, play some freeforall with friends or UMS with her  | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
i have a friend and i told him to practice against a comp so his first game he got 3 sunks at main it was funny | ||
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stroggos
New Zealand1543 Posts
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ReCharge
Philippines505 Posts
You need to either, play with her I donno, 2v1 vs computer and teach her. Or make her play campaign | ||
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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genryou
Malaysia390 Posts
To make it simple, go easy, let her take her time in game, even if you can harass her, just leave it be, let her think on his own how each unit work. Let her brain work. Give one or two praise if nesccesary. | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
They did it for me, they can do it for her. | ||
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Batibot
Philippines348 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
EDIT: Oh, 20 APM.. hm ;P Maybe team melee as some others mentioned. | ||
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
don't queue up units in production facilities nonstop worker production using basic hotkeys binds and other things for efficiency | ||
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Kage
India788 Posts
If she's going to lose 40 games without learning anything then she's hitting aoe 3 faster than you can say zerg. I'd suggest you play a game with her as toss or whatever, then sit with her and show her mistakes and tell her what she could have done and throw in some games here and there when she's no longer a virgin (no pun intended) gamer. That way she has some fun in it and doesn't think she totally sucks to leave it. Team games would definitely help her, you playing with her shows you have confidence as well and that as a team you guys can do stuff together (again no pun intended). | ||
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krazymunky
United States727 Posts
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
On July 27 2009 01:53 Kage wrote: Ah from Bangaldesh! Welcome neighbour. Seriously though, the best way to get people interested is to make them see the cinematics, understand the lore and MOST IMPORTANT -- GET THEM TO WIN. If she's going to lose 40 games without learning anything then she's hitting aoe 3 faster than you can say zerg. I'd suggest you play a game with her as toss or whatever, then sit with her and show her mistakes and tell her what she could have done and throw in some games here and there when she's no longer a virgin (no pun intended) gamer. That way she has some fun in it and doesn't think she totally sucks to leave it. Team games would definitely help her, you playing with her shows you have confidence as well and that as a team you guys can do stuff together (again no pun intended). Yeah this is perhaps the best advice if you can't get her to do single player, if you can get 2 other friends and have a 2v2 on fastest, and tell the other team to go easy on her, even if you lose make sure its close, and then she might be hooked on trying to win. You've got to make sure that she thinks she can win, crushing her one on one will get you no where. If you can't get any teamplay games going, my advice is to play her one on one, first on fastest, and then on regular maps, while having you biggest empathy hat on, trying to remember what it was like when you first started, all the time giving her good advice about when to tech, and the basic gameplay mechanics. Also watch some good games together. | ||
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Ronald_McD
Canada807 Posts
Like, you could try playing with one hand. Or just purposely micro sloppy or miss units Just until she starts playing on a decent level Get her familiar with hotkeys, unit costs, damage, hp, things like that Have her try all three races and see which interests her the most | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
When you're playing sc, bring it up now and then. Relate her exploits to friends and exaggerate the battles. ("I had this MASSIVE army outside her base and somehow she got her army to do super-crazy awesome backflips and ninja moves across my mine-field. She murdered every last one of my men, even when they tried to surrender. You know, why am I even friends with you?") If she thinks its fun and you create an experience for her, she'll want to learn to get better on her own. Then you can start introducing her to stuff. (stuff in parenthesis is what I'd say/have said to my friends) | ||
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mcJ
Denmark322 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
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Kgosi
Iceland79 Posts
On July 26 2009 23:50 GHOSTCLAW wrote: from there, if they want to get better, and they still seem interested after a few (10-20) hours of playing, introduce them to iccup. Really ? That short of a time. Me and a friend of mine kinda fell in on StarCraft a few weeks ago. We are mainly practicing against each other. We have about 125 apm and go with very basic BO´s but we taught we still had a long way to go. Sorry about derailing the thread but what most people seems the right thing to do Campaign. | ||
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50bani
Romania480 Posts
So show her how bad she is if she really has 20 apm: play terran, max out in 13 minutes, rush, win, show replay. Tell her to watch some progaming, and to learn touch typing | ||
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