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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-13 15:07:06
July 19 2009 16:34 GMT
#1
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
July 19 2009 16:36 GMT
#2
It depends is it controlling of her if you tried to do the same with a just one other girl?
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Pengu1n
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States552 Posts
July 19 2009 16:40 GMT
#3
I wouldn't want my gf going out with just one other guy, and she wouldn't want me going out with another girl. But I agree with BuGz it depends on both your standards on what is and whats not acceptable.

btw whats a shisha?
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
July 19 2009 16:41 GMT
#4
I have no idea what it exactly is, just some sort of thing brown people go to (kind of like weed except weaker?) but yeah she was getting mad at me because I told her I didn't want her to go.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 19 2009 16:43 GMT
#5
Me and my ex-fiance both decided that we wouldn't be comfortable with that situation unless it was someone we both knew pretty well. Like what was said above you both need to decide what the boundaries are for that kind of thing.
Never Knows Best.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
July 19 2009 16:45 GMT
#6
if you were invited to go you cant blame her regardless
but yeah, its controlling. she's allowed to go out for a drink with people. its a social thing. its like catching up. obviously i would not like it if she did it every weekend.
Pengu1n
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States552 Posts
July 19 2009 16:46 GMT
#7
If only girls knew what really goes through a guys mind when they are alone, especially drinking...then she probably wouldn't even want to go. She probably thinks its a just friends thing and your just being controlling, but looking at it from a guys perspective I think your right in not wanting her to go.
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
July 19 2009 16:46 GMT
#8
If it's an old friend of hers, you shouldn't have to worry too much. If it's a random guy every weekend, then your girlfriend's a cheating whore.

In any case, if you're not feeling comfortable about it, talk to her about it.
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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
July 19 2009 16:47 GMT
#9
I don't mind if it's like with a GROUP of people because that, I would understand.

But to go with 1 other person of the opposite sex? Isn't that like ... against some guy code or some shit?
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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
July 19 2009 16:53 GMT
#10
Dude, relationships are not the defining aspect of the the human race. It's not weird or wrong at all to want to just get to know someone or chill with someone over a drink. Put your jealousy aside and you will enjoy life |----this----| much more.
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 16:55:13
July 19 2009 16:54 GMT
#11
The title is so misleading, I was expecting something about the social or physical effects of drinking and whatnot.

Btw, you shouldn't let her go and if you don't approve of it just let her know that you don't. In the end it's her decision anyway.

P.S.: Shisha = like a water pipe right?

Edit: nice ninja op edit dude :>
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
July 19 2009 16:55 GMT
#12
@ Pengu1n - I know what you mean, I've gotten into so many fights because of this shit.
@ Gene - Not something she does every weekend, but frequent enough to make me pissed off.
@ plated.rawr - It's not an old friend, and I tried talking to her about it, but it always leads into a fight.
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
July 19 2009 17:05 GMT
#13
ultimatum.
555, kthxbai
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
July 19 2009 17:06 GMT
#14
Ask her if it's ok for you to do the same thing.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
July 19 2009 17:07 GMT
#15
@ micro: She doesn't care, because she knows it's not going to happen.
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
July 19 2009 17:08 GMT
#16
Shisha is the same as hookah
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11582 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 17:10:20
July 19 2009 17:09 GMT
#17
shisha isn't a type of weed... it's flavored tobacco smoked in a hookah. it's just a relaxing thing to do and you don't get high at all...
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Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
July 19 2009 17:10 GMT
#18
shisha is a type of tobacco product that you smoke out of a hookah
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 19 2009 17:10 GMT
#19
If you don't trust her the relationship is already over.
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Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
July 19 2009 17:11 GMT
#20
On July 20 2009 02:07 kOre wrote:
@ micro: She doesn't care, because she knows it's not going to happen.

ur controlling
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 19 2009 17:15 GMT
#21
I don't think he is controlling.

The dude tried to do some shit with his gf KNOWING she was taken.. and asks again anyways?

Your gf is trouble (from this very limited point of view). Going out drinking and enjoying a hookah with 1 other guy, a guy who tried to seduce her anyways.. is no good.
BBS
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany204 Posts
July 19 2009 17:20 GMT
#22
i'd clrearly tell my gf that she shall stay away from those idiots if it's serious to her, because i'd never do something like that to her. say it straight out!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
July 19 2009 17:20 GMT
#23
Options
1) Punch this kid in the head
2) Drop her
3) Punch this kid in the head, then drop her

most important question for framing. How old are you?
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
July 19 2009 17:22 GMT
#24
I'm 21, I like option number 1.
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 17:24:15
July 19 2009 17:23 GMT
#25
I'd go with option 3 personally
sure you'll solve the problem short term by punching the kid in the head, but it's not like there are only 2 guys in th whole world who are going to try to fuck your gf

edit: and if she's not gonna tell them to fuck off then ditch her
NiTenIchiRyu
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom273 Posts
July 19 2009 17:24 GMT
#26
shisha (kind of like weed)

Shisha is just another term for hookah and that's basically smoking tobacco through a water pipe so it's not even remotely related to weed.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
July 19 2009 17:24 GMT
#27
On July 20 2009 02:24 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:
shisha (kind of like weed)

Shisha is just another term for hookah and that's basically smoking tobacco through a water pipe so it's not even remotely related to weed.

Okay well yeah I never really did have any idea what it was.
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
July 19 2009 17:24 GMT
#28
Either she's completely oblivious to what this guy wants or she's got no respect

I'd say go with Sean Connery's advice.
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lovelyrose
Profile Joined July 2003
Canada160 Posts
July 19 2009 17:24 GMT
#29
if you have to stop your g/f from cheating, what's the point?
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 17:26:25
July 19 2009 17:25 GMT
#30
On July 20 2009 02:23 anderoo wrote:
I'd go with option 3 personally
sure you'll solve the problem short term by punching the kid in the head, but it's not like there are only 2 guys in th whole world who are going to try to fuck your gf

edit: and if she's not gonna tell them to fuck off then ditch her

Guess since there won't be just 2, I'll have to punch every kid in the head lol

On July 20 2009 02:24 lovelyrose wrote:
if you have to stop your g/f from cheating, what's the point?

She isn't, she's just really clueless.
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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 17:27:35
July 19 2009 17:25 GMT
#31
Do you not smoke/drink? Forbiding her to not do something she wants to will piss her off. I made a new friend when I had a gf and she had a bf and we chilled and got high and drank and shit alone. My gf at the time didn't care, her bf didn't care. Neither of us did anything besides hang out. It's just fun to drink and smoke ~~

And if you punch the kid in the head for wanting to hang out with your gf she'll just think you're crazy and not want to be with you. Just let it go.
Nak Allstar.
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
July 19 2009 17:25 GMT
#32
lol, if you have the hands for it
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 17:28:46
July 19 2009 17:27 GMT
#33
On July 20 2009 02:25 MiniRoman wrote:
Do you not smoke/drink? Forbiding her to not do something she wants to will piss her off. I made a new friend when I had a gf and she had a bf and we chilled and got high and drank and shit alone. My gf at the time didn't care, her bf didn't care. Neither of us did anything besides hang out. It's just fun to drink and smoke ~~

I don't really smoke because it's bad for your health (I breakdance so I can't do that shit) and drinking I can handle my alcohol pretty well while she can't so I would rather she drink when I'm with her because of what could happen.

The dude tried to do some shit with his gf KNOWING she was taken.. and asks again anyways?
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
July 19 2009 17:31 GMT
#34
i mean look at it this way

your girlfriend has friends right? are you trying to say there should be rules as to when and how she spends time with them?

Its just a matter of whether or not your girlfriend is trustworthy, like it or not. I'm the most jealous BF on the planet. I was pissed off one night just because she was out at 5 am. She was with a good girlfriend of hers. Any good reason? no. It's entirely irrational. just something you have to come to terms with.

also, turns out she is now my ex and not trustworthy.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 17:36:08
July 19 2009 17:33 GMT
#35
if the dude is trying to make moves, he's in the wrong and your girlfriend is either a moron or trying to make you jealous.

I would call out the dude.

On July 20 2009 02:27 kOre wrote:

I don't really smoke because it's bad for your health (I breakdance so I can't do that shit) and drinking I can handle my alcohol pretty well while she can't so I would rather she drink when I'm with her because of what could happen.



she's old enough to take care of herself. are you sure you dont mean you'd prefer she drink with you because you want to keep an eye on her? (asking for introspection purposes)
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 19 2009 17:35 GMT
#36
On July 20 2009 02:25 kOre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2009 02:24 lovelyrose wrote:
if you have to stop your g/f from cheating, what's the point?

She isn't, she's just really clueless.

How clueless could a person be?
I don't know how old your girlfriend is but I highly doubt a girl could be that 'clueless'
dats racist
Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 17:37:37
July 19 2009 17:37 GMT
#37
Sorry to nitpick, but Shisha is NOT at all like weed.

On July 20 2009 02:10 Steelflight-Rx wrote:
shisha is a type of tobacco product that you smoke out of a hookah

That really depends on the dialect. Yes, in egypt shisha is the tobacco, but in north africa shisha is the hookah itself (also called arguilé or narguilé in the middle east, which is probably the place where it's most anchored in the culture).

I guess I wanted to clarify that because i've got one running in my hands right now :s

edit: kay : ) someone else corrected that before me
Zinfandel
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada115 Posts
July 19 2009 17:40 GMT
#38
I say let it play out on its own (even though it'll probably eat you up inside while it's happening). Let her go out with the guy. Let the guy hit on her again. See what she does. See if when she gets home she realizes what a creep this other guy is, or whether she likes this other guy, or what... If by the time she gets back (assuming the other guy makes a pass at her again) she doesn't realize that this guy is into her... then she's oblivious (read: dumb)... and then you have a choice... she's probably going to continue to be dumb and give you stupid problems like these (in which case if you've got balls and any self-respect: you dump her)... or you keep putting yourself through these situations where your girlfriend goes on dates (yep, I said it) with other guys while she's technically committed to you...
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 19 2009 17:47 GMT
#39
She isn't clueless. She's trouble.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 19 2009 17:48 GMT
#40
Everytime I read threads like this I get confused.

Is the concept of trust foreign now?

Like when I get into a relationship with someone at this point you should really really like said person and give them the benefit of the doubt in most situations.

What the hell is the point of a relationship if you don't have just about near unconditional trust in them to "allow" them to go somewhere on their own...

Then again I don't bother to get into a relationship just to be in one, I actually have to give a shit about the other person.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 17:48:57
July 19 2009 17:48 GMT
#41
Just tell her "if you can't show me some respect by NOT going out with a guy who is clearly interested in you then we obviously have way bigger issues here.,,, Your call." if she goes, dump her immediately - then fuck one of her friends as SOON as possible. The last part is key because you don't want to be seen as the needy boyfriend who couldn't handle her going out with other guys but rather the asshole who got mad and then was like ROLFOLROLOLRFOLOLOL BRB FUCKING YOU FRIEND!

Have any of her friends flirted with you in the past?

This is the solution.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 19 2009 17:51 GMT
#42
On July 20 2009 02:48 Jayme wrote:
Everytime I read threads like this I get confused.

Is the concept of trust foreign now?

Like when I get into a relationship with someone at this point you should really really like said person and give them the benefit of the doubt in most situations.

What the hell is the point of a relationship if you don't have just about near unconditional trust in them to "allow" them to go somewhere on their own...

Then again I don't bother to get into a relationship just to be in one, I actually have to give a shit about the other person.


Maybe he trusts her but not the guy.

Maybe her "cluelessness" makes for problems he'd rather (shouldn't) deal with.

Trusting someone is fine.. but trusting someone who puts themselves in reckless situations is bad. It isn't like this is some great friend who is being purely platonic.. he has a history of faggotry.

I love tl.net's over emphasized sense of macho.

"MY WOMAN DOES WHATEVER CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY blah blah blah"
ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
July 19 2009 17:51 GMT
#43
Why would you care who she is seeing? If you are that insecure on her feelings for you, you shouldn't be in a relationship in the first place.
Really, play for fun!
vlaric
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States412 Posts
July 19 2009 17:52 GMT
#44
On July 20 2009 02:51 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2009 02:48 Jayme wrote:
Everytime I read threads like this I get confused.

Is the concept of trust foreign now?

Like when I get into a relationship with someone at this point you should really really like said person and give them the benefit of the doubt in most situations.

What the hell is the point of a relationship if you don't have just about near unconditional trust in them to "allow" them to go somewhere on their own...

Then again I don't bother to get into a relationship just to be in one, I actually have to give a shit about the other person.


Maybe he trusts her but not the guy.

Maybe her "cluelessness" makes for problems he'd rather (shouldn't) deal with.

Trusting someone is fine.. but trusting someone who puts themselves in reckless situations is bad. It isn't like this is some great friend who is being purely platonic.. he has a history of faggotry.

I love tl.net's over emphasized sense of macho.

"MY WOMAN DOES WHATEVER CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY blah blah blah"


LOL
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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 17:57:41
July 19 2009 17:54 GMT
#45
I trust her, I don't trust the guys that she is with.

Why? They continue to hit on her and try shit even though they know she is already taken. Yet, she won't let me do anything about it because they are her "friends". Takes all I have to restrain myself from going all psycho-im-going-to-fucking-shoot-you on them.

What I mean by "clueless" is that she keeps telling me nothing is going to happen even when she is drunk/high. But I know that when these guys see an opportunity they are going to take it.
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SirNeb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States243 Posts
July 19 2009 17:59 GMT
#46
If you don't satisfy her, then you guys are doomed to fail anyways. Denying her from her freedom only makes her more discontent especially if she finds nothing wrong with it.

What I'm hearing are actually these questions: "Can I trust my gf?" or "Why am I so insecured?"
Olorin.SVK
Profile Joined December 2008
Slovakia136 Posts
July 19 2009 18:01 GMT
#47
On July 20 2009 02:10 Chef wrote:
If you don't trust her the relationship is already over.


This. Really. If you think she can do whatever with that guy, there is something wrong. I know it feels kinda unconfortable for you, but you just have to trust her. Also talk about it with her if it is that big of a deal for you.
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
July 19 2009 18:02 GMT
#48
return the favor. find a girl to go hang out with alone.
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
July 19 2009 18:04 GMT
#49
On July 20 2009 03:02 piratebay wrote:
return the favor. find a girl to go hang out with alone.


*edit* whichever mod that said bang her best friends, do this.
PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 18:24:22
July 19 2009 18:23 GMT
#50
You should try to talk to her and tell her that you do trust her, but your problem is with the guy that clearly will try again to seduce her, tell her how would she feel if she ever was in that situation.

And guys he clearly has a reason to feel bad about this, specially if she is going to get drunk and smoke ALONE with another guy whose testosterone will kick in and try to hit on her.
Smu
Profile Joined July 2009
Serbia164 Posts
July 19 2009 18:29 GMT
#51
As long as you are troubled with it, it's not ok. It's best to always talk over things as soon as they happen, but :

It's very important for a relationship that she feels for you. That's not something you can talk over. If she isn't all over you and caring from the start, you can't change that about her. She either doesn't care about you very much to begin with or is just a heartless bitch in general. Avoid like the plague.

Take us into orbit Mr. Malmsteen. We've seen enough.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
July 19 2009 18:30 GMT
#52
Talk things over with her. She'll understand if she loves you.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Vilda
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Sweden111 Posts
July 19 2009 18:38 GMT
#53
You serious?

You might not trust the guy, but it takes two to tango. If you really do trust her one guy wouldn't really matter, would he?

lol.
Vilda is all about StarCraft
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 19 2009 18:38 GMT
#54
On July 20 2009 02:54 kOre wrote:
I trust her, I don't trust the guys that she is with.

Why? They continue to hit on her and try shit even though they know she is already taken. Yet, she won't let me do anything about it because they are her "friends". Takes all I have to restrain myself from going all psycho-im-going-to-fucking-shoot-you on them.

What I mean by "clueless" is that she keeps telling me nothing is going to happen even when she is drunk/high. But I know that when these guys see an opportunity they are going to take it.

You don't trust her not to reject his advances or leave if he starts pawing her. "Trust" is more than just a word. Unless you're afraid of him raping her, than it's not really your point. And if you think she's so dumb she won't notice he's feeling her up, maybe that's a reason not to trust her either.

Honestly, it sounds like you must be going out with a 15 year old. If you're so desperate to be in a relationship, fine, tell her you don't want her to go. Your relationship will never get any deeper than it is right now and you can expect it to end within a year. If you're not desperate, you might as well dump her now or learn to trust her.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
July 19 2009 18:39 GMT
#55
On July 20 2009 02:48 Kennigit wrote:
Just tell her "if you can't show me some respect by NOT going out with a guy who is clearly interested in you then we obviously have way bigger issues here.,,, Your call." if she goes, dump her immediately - then fuck one of her friends as SOON as possible. The last part is key because you don't want to be seen as the needy boyfriend who couldn't handle her going out with other guys but rather the asshole who got mad and then was like ROLFOLROLOLRFOLOLOL BRB FUCKING YOU FRIEND!

Have any of her friends flirted with you in the past?

This is the solution.


Lol, this is made of win.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 19 2009 18:40 GMT
#56
you guys would all seriously be ok with your gf saying "sup going for drinks and a smoke with that dude that hit on me the other day"

rofl

You guys are so fucking manly! I Envy the cock sizes around here.

/barf
Vilda
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Sweden111 Posts
July 19 2009 18:43 GMT
#57
Lol inc, if my guy told me he didn't want me to hang out with a friend of mine because the guy had hit on me before I'd give him the finger and tell him to FO -_- but then again I'd never cheat on him either..
Vilda is all about StarCraft
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 18:52:36
July 19 2009 18:51 GMT
#58
man that's a pretty tough situation you have there...

on the one hand i feel that telling your gf to stop hanging out w/ someone (esp a penis) would be unfair (i wouldn't wanna be told to stop hanging out w/ any of my friends) but on the other hand the guy has been known to put a few moves on your gf.

i guess me trying to be a rational bf would say to lessen the amount of time they hang out. if she keeps insisting that nothing will happen bla bla then you'll just have to work around it if you think she's worth all that trouble..but if you really can't hack it, there's always the easy way out.
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Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
July 19 2009 18:55 GMT
#59
Half the responses in here aren't addressing that the "friend" has hit on her BEFORE. If you think this is just a friend thing, you are either as immature or as idiotic as his GF is acting. I say "acting" because she might have a different reason for this, like she's pissed off at you for something but you just don't know it. If not, then like Kennigit said, 3) Punch this kid in the head, then drop her. She's trouble and has no respect for you, and there really is not a relationship anymore.
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Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
July 19 2009 18:56 GMT
#60
This isn't even all about trust. You can trust someone but still be uncomfortable with a situation. It's one thing to trust someone, it's another thing for that person to knowingly put themselves into potentially harmful situations. Even if nothing is going to happen, it clearly makes at least one person uncomfortable, and generally speaking, if you're in a relationship you should be considerate of the other person's feelings and what makes them uncomfortable. It may not always be reasonable (that's another issue of its own), but telling or expecting them to just "deal with it" is completely uncalled for and pretty disrespectful. Any girl that ever tried that on me would get dumped so fast it's not even funny. If something's bothering your significant other, you don't just ignore it or do things that will make it worse, whether it's unreasonable or not.

On July 20 2009 03:43 Vilda wrote:
Lol inc, if my guy told me he didn't want me to hang out with a friend of mine because the guy had hit on me before I'd give him the finger and tell him to FO -_- but then again I'd never cheat on him either..


Attitudes like that are terribly disrespectful... That's great if things are working out well for you, but you need to know, that's a pretty disrespectful way to treat someone. To tell them that how they feel doesn't matter, that you don't care about their worries. Trust is something that is built up, not something that you're automatically entitled to. Whether they truly have trust for you or not, pulling stuff like what's quoted definitely isn't going to help build up any more trust.

The guy has a legit reason to be concerned. Maybe he's overreacting, maybe he's not. We don't know all the details or all the sides, but it sounds like he's got a good reason to at least be concerned. I don't think this is an issue of him trusting the girl or not. This is him being uncomfortable with a situation that clearly smells. There's nothing wrong with that. Even if the girl is completely trustworthy and loyal, that doesn't mean that something bad can't happen.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 19 2009 18:56 GMT
#61
On July 20 2009 03:43 Vilda wrote:
Lol inc, if my guy told me he didn't want me to hang out with a friend of mine because the guy had hit on me before I'd give him the finger and tell him to FO -_- but then again I'd never cheat on him either..


It isn't a matter of you cheating on him. It is a matter of respect for your bf. If that guy has no respect for you, your relationship OR the girl really than why the fuck would you want her hanging with him in the first place? And if she doesn't care to avoid guys like that, or at least make YOU feel better about it then she isn't worth the concern.

If a guy repeatedly hits on my gf KNOWING she has a bf I would curb stomp him and spare the gene pool. If he made an honest mistake no worries.. she is worth hitting on. Its the guys who don't give a fuck about people that you cannot trust.
Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
July 19 2009 18:58 GMT
#62
On July 20 2009 03:43 Vilda wrote:
Lol inc, if my guy told me he didn't want me to hang out with a friend of mine because the guy had hit on me before I'd give him the finger and tell him to FO -_- but then again I'd never cheat on him either..


wtf? i would not want to be your bf
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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
July 19 2009 19:06 GMT
#63
On July 20 2009 03:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2009 03:43 Vilda wrote:
Lol inc, if my guy told me he didn't want me to hang out with a friend of mine because the guy had hit on me before I'd give him the finger and tell him to FO -_- but then again I'd never cheat on him either..


It isn't a matter of you cheating on him. It is a matter of respect for your bf. If that guy has no respect for you, your relationship OR the girl really than why the fuck would you want her hanging with him in the first place? And if she doesn't care to avoid guys like that, or at least make YOU feel better about it then she isn't worth the concern.

If a guy repeatedly hits on my gf KNOWING she has a bf I would curb stomp him and spare the gene pool. If he made an honest mistake no worries.. she is worth hitting on. Its the guys who don't give a fuck about people that you cannot trust.


RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESMASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Guys hit on girls, my gf would tell me to flirt when I would go to bars and shit just for the fun of it. She got hit on all the time just part of life. You can't go around curbstomping people, go lift some weights while you rage about your girl with a friend thats a guy ~~
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 19 2009 19:10 GMT
#64
This isn't an issue we have thanks!

She hangs with guys all the time.. cause they are good guys who don't need to hit on her to have a good time.

When we go to bars or parties or w/e she gets hit on.. they get the message and realize I am more trouble than it is worth.

Life goes on.

I'm offering my advice because I don't think a guy should sit and tolerate his girl getting hit on.. or much worse: Pursuing a guy who perpetually hits on her.

You can blather about rage or weightlifting all you like.. doesn't change the fact that in the real world people need to have respect or they will get fucking demolished. Physically or in some other fashion.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 19:20:36
July 19 2009 19:17 GMT
#65
On July 20 2009 03:40 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
you guys would all seriously be ok with your gf saying "sup going for drinks and a smoke with that dude that hit on me the other day"

rofl

You guys are so fucking manly! I Envy the cock sizes around here.

/barf

No, I just wouldn't go out with a girl like that "KBYE, don't come back" There's no way I'd trust a girl like that.

But then it depends what you consider 'hitting on.' Some people think "I like your hair" is synonymous with "nice tits, lemme feel."
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Zinfandel
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada115 Posts
July 19 2009 19:20 GMT
#66
Consensus: rage quit.
starflash
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
190 Posts
July 19 2009 19:30 GMT
#67
yup this is fucked up dont allow it
ur gf has issues definately (not being rude i hope)
starflash
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
190 Posts
July 19 2009 19:33 GMT
#68
either that or she has absolutely no issues whatsoever, ever, but you wouldnt be making this thread if you knew that
starflash
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
190 Posts
July 19 2009 19:35 GMT
#69
remember girls get turned on for different reasons to guys, and this is the sort of situation/guy that a girl would get turned on by
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
July 19 2009 19:40 GMT
#70
let her drink or whatever, as long as at the end of the night she's going home with you then who gives a crap, it's not like anything will happen between them in public.
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 19 2009 19:42 GMT
#71
On July 20 2009 01:34 kOre wrote:
Is it controlling of me if I don't want my girlfriend to go drinking or shisha with just 1 other guy? Here's some information on our relationship.

- She doesn't consider the people as REALLY REALLY old friends.
- The one guy tried to like "do shit" last time they went shisha but I was there to stop it.
- She won't let me tell the guys to "fuck off" so to say because they are her friends.
- I would never do this kind of shit to her.
- Isn't there some sort of "guy code" that pretty much tells the guy not to even ask the girl this stuff?

EDIT: Yeah I edited the OP so that it has more info. Thanks for the title change.
Its not controlling to not want her to go. A bit suspicious and jealous? Sure. But it sounds warranted in this case. But its not controlling to be against it; if however, you were extremely adamant and actually tried to stop her from going, rather than suggesting she not go, that would be controlling.
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MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
July 19 2009 19:49 GMT
#72
On July 20 2009 04:40 BalliSLife wrote:
let her drink or whatever, as long as at the end of the night she's going home with you then who gives a crap, it's not like anything will happen between them in public.

You'd be ok with your gf doing something in private? -.-

Inc, I agree with you. I wouldn't be very happy at all with this situation.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 19:56:56
July 19 2009 19:54 GMT
#73
On July 20 2009 03:38 Chef wrote:
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On July 20 2009 02:54 kOre wrote:
I trust her, I don't trust the guys that she is with.

Why? They continue to hit on her and try shit even though they know she is already taken. Yet, she won't let me do anything about it because they are her "friends". Takes all I have to restrain myself from going all psycho-im-going-to-fucking-shoot-you on them.

What I mean by "clueless" is that she keeps telling me nothing is going to happen even when she is drunk/high. But I know that when these guys see an opportunity they are going to take it.

You don't trust her not to reject his advances or leave if he starts pawing her. "Trust" is more than just a word. Unless you're afraid of him raping her, than it's not really your point. And if you think she's so dumb she won't notice he's feeling her up, maybe that's a reason not to trust her either.

Honestly, it sounds like you must be going out with a 15 year old. If you're so desperate to be in a relationship, fine, tell her you don't want her to go. Your relationship will never get any deeper than it is right now and you can expect it to end within a year. If you're not desperate, you might as well dump her now or learn to trust her.


IMO QFT and I have 2 questions:

1) How do you know she's going to meet this guy? She told you that?
If I understand this right they are going to smoke... flavoured tobacco. zomg zomg

2) Do you know any other girl close enough to tell her about this situation (starting with what she's going to do and what you know about that guy) to ask her to act like she's hitting on you and you respond to that in friendly manner when your gf is around?
See her reaction then ask when is she going to meet with that penis then ask her how she felt. Then tell her both what really happened. She should be impressed that you can go that far just to make her understand how you feel!

edit: Try to remember how you met each other and how started to be together. Was she easy to be picked up lol?
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Jin
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Canada439 Posts
July 19 2009 19:57 GMT
#74
just tell how you feel
if she is certain nothing will happen then let her go

if she's a cheater it won't matter if she let her or not let her, it will happen eventually, better to have it happen before marriage and kids
^-^v
PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 20:02:04
July 19 2009 20:00 GMT
#75
On July 20 2009 03:56 Orlandu wrote:
This isn't even all about trust. You can trust someone but still be uncomfortable with a situation. It's one thing to trust someone, it's another thing for that person to knowingly put themselves into potentially harmful situations. Even if nothing is going to happen, it clearly makes at least one person uncomfortable, and generally speaking, if you're in a relationship you should be considerate of the other person's feelings and what makes them uncomfortable. It may not always be reasonable (that's another issue of its own), but telling or expecting them to just "deal with it" is completely uncalled for and pretty disrespectful. Any girl that ever tried that on me would get dumped so fast it's not even funny. If something's bothering your significant other, you don't just ignore it or do things that will make it worse, whether it's unreasonable or not.

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2009 03:43 Vilda wrote:
Lol inc, if my guy told me he didn't want me to hang out with a friend of mine because the guy had hit on me before I'd give him the finger and tell him to FO -_- but then again I'd never cheat on him either..


Attitudes like that are terribly disrespectful... That's great if things are working out well for you, but you need to know, that's a pretty disrespectful way to treat someone. To tell them that how they feel doesn't matter, that you don't care about their worries. Trust is something that is built up, not something that you're automatically entitled to. Whether they truly have trust for you or not, pulling stuff like what's quoted definitely isn't going to help build up any more trust.

The guy has a legit reason to be concerned. Maybe he's overreacting, maybe he's not. We don't know all the details or all the sides, but it sounds like he's got a good reason to at least be concerned. I don't think this is an issue of him trusting the girl or not. This is him being uncomfortable with a situation that clearly smells. There's nothing wrong with that. Even if the girl is completely trustworthy and loyal, that doesn't mean that something bad can't happen.


This post along with Incontrol's are pretty much the TRUTH.

I would still advice that you talk with your girlfriend and try to work this out, if she just ignores you and doesnt give a fuck about what you feel then thats the basis for ending this relationship asap and then do what Kennigit said .
Vilda
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Sweden111 Posts
July 19 2009 20:02 GMT
#76
On July 20 2009 03:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2009 03:43 Vilda wrote:
Lol inc, if my guy told me he didn't want me to hang out with a friend of mine because the guy had hit on me before I'd give him the finger and tell him to FO -_- but then again I'd never cheat on him either..


It isn't a matter of you cheating on him. It is a matter of respect for your bf. If that guy has no respect for you, your relationship OR the girl really than why the fuck would you want her hanging with him in the first place? And if she doesn't care to avoid guys like that, or at least make YOU feel better about it then she isn't worth the concern.

If a guy repeatedly hits on my gf KNOWING she has a bf I would curb stomp him and spare the gene pool. If he made an honest mistake no worries.. she is worth hitting on. Its the guys who don't give a fuck about people that you cannot trust.


But that's the point. Who are you to decide who she hangs out with just because you're dating her? You can want her to stop hanging out with someone, sure, but would you actually order her around like that?

If my bf asked me not to, and put it in different words of course I'd consider what he's saying, and I doubt I'd keep hanging out with the guy, at least not without telling him to back off. I'd never do anything to hurt a bf or anyone else I know and care about. However, the bottom line is that I'm a person free to do whatever I want. If he thinks that me not doing what he tells me to do is disrespectful I'm not sure I'd be able to stay in the relationship.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 19 2009 20:08 GMT
#77
uh

he didn't decide who she can hang out with. He is discussing who he wants her to hang out with. Who SHE wants/decides to hang out with is what we are discussing..

Stay on topic please.
Vilda
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Sweden111 Posts
July 19 2009 20:10 GMT
#78
On July 20 2009 03:56 Orlandu wrote:

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2009 03:43 Vilda wrote:
Lol inc, if my guy told me he didn't want me to hang out with a friend of mine because the guy had hit on me before I'd give him the finger and tell him to FO -_- but then again I'd never cheat on him either..


Attitudes like that are terribly disrespectful... That's great if things are working out well for you, but you need to know, that's a pretty disrespectful way to treat someone. To tell them that how they feel doesn't matter, that you don't care about their worries. Trust is something that is built up, not something that you're automatically entitled to. Whether they truly have trust for you or not, pulling stuff like what's quoted definitely isn't going to help build up any more trust.


If the case would be my bf telling me not to do something I really want to do, just because he doesn't want me to, how respectful is that towards me? It'd make me terribly uncomfortable and upset if someone that I love and trust fully would tell me that he didn't want me to hang out with one of my friends. Deciding things for me - or trying to - is something I find highly disrespectful as well.

Trust is indeed built up, but the guy says he trusts her already, if there was an issue with him trusting her I'd tell him to dump her as well, but if he really does trust her, then there is no reason not to let her go. And in my opinion he isn't the one deciding whether she gets to go or not in the first place.
Vilda is all about StarCraft
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
July 19 2009 20:15 GMT
#79
Judging from the OP's information, I can guess (fairly accurately) at what's going on in her mind. On a conscious level, she's telling herself, "I want to hang out with my friends because it's fun! I don't see why my boyfriend is controlling me, it's just having some fun."

On the vicious, catty, biologically-programmed subconscious level, she's thinking three things:

1. I like the attention
2. I like when my boyfriend gets jealous
3. I want to keep my options open

There's no reason that she would rather hang out with these types of acquaintances over her boyfriend except for at least 1&2 or 1&3. She's either playing mindgames with you because she IS interested in you (and girls nearly always feel the stupid urge to make their bf jealous), or she's not as interested as you think and wants to see what other guys are like. No girl would come out and admit these motives to anyone, but these are three pretty common responses for females in general.
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Vilda
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Sweden111 Posts
July 19 2009 20:16 GMT
#80
Ok then, I guess I missunderstood your last post. Since you were talking about what you'd do in the situation, I just told you what I'd do if I was in hers. That's ok, though, right? or is that off topic too?

If he's just uncomfortable about the situation that's fine, and he if he doesn't want her to go that's on him. But if he acted on it I'd find it controlling, and if he did it to me, it wouldn't be ok.
Vilda is all about StarCraft
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
July 19 2009 20:22 GMT
#81
On July 20 2009 05:15 hazelynut wrote:
Judging from the OP's information, I can guess (fairly accurately) at what's going on in her mind. On a conscious level, she's telling herself, "I want to hang out with my friends because it's fun! I don't see why my boyfriend is controlling me, it's just having some fun."

On the vicious, catty, biologically-programmed subconscious level, she may be thinking three things:

1. I like the attention
2. I like when my boyfriend gets jealous
3. I want to keep my options open

There's no reason that she would rather hang out with these types of acquaintances over her boyfriend except for at least 1&2 or 1&3. She's either playing mindgames with you because she IS interested in you (and girls nearly always feel the stupid urge to make their bf jealous), or she's not as interested as you think and wants to see what other guys are like. No girl would come out and admit these motives to anyone, but these are three pretty common responses for females in general.

sorry but fixed?
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Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
July 19 2009 20:31 GMT
#82
On July 20 2009 01:43 Slaughter)BiO wrote:
Me and my ex-fiance both decided that we wouldn't be comfortable with that situation unless it was someone we both knew pretty well. Like what was said above you both need to decide what the boundaries are for that kind of thing.


I agree. I feel like if it's someone that both of you know pretty well and someone you can trust then it's okay, otherwise what you are doing would only be natural.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 20:38:02
July 19 2009 20:33 GMT
#83
On July 20 2009 02:20 Kennigit wrote:
Options
1) Punch this kid in the head
2) Drop her
3) Punch this kid in the head, then drop her

most important question for framing. How old are you?



quoted for truth.

anyone saying differently has little to offer.
honestly. choice #2 is the best one. if she can't see the problem with this then she is trying to make you jealous. i've no doubt she will deny that; if you see through her games then her plan is foiled. seriously, drop her. this is exactly the kind of girl you want to stay away from.

no, dude, you're not controlling.

that is.. purely from the limited information you've given.

added: if she won't respect you in this situation, there's little chance of it happening elsewhere. and no, the vice versa argument doesn't work. (if you won't respect her in this situation...) it doesn't work because she's the one wanting to do something you're not comfortable(and shouldn't be) with.
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plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 21:17:11
July 19 2009 21:10 GMT
#84
After reading your expanded version, this guy's pretty much nailed it as far as I can see:

On the vicious, catty, biologically-programmed subconscious level, she may be thinking three things:

1. I like the attention
2. I like when my boyfriend gets jealous
3. I want to keep my options open

Especially this part, where you say
- She won't let me tell the guys to "fuck off" so to say because they are her friends.

If letting her friends hit on her is more important to her than having her boyfriend feel comfortable and trusting with her, then she's just trash, and will most probably cheat on you whenever the best opportunity presents itself.

She obviously doesn't respect you at all.

edit: cheat on, not with. Damn english and its ambiguous wording.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 19 2009 22:31 GMT
#85
On July 20 2009 02:10 Chef wrote:
If you don't trust her the relationship is already over.


this. sure you might be uncomfortable but whether you "let" her or not, if she's going out with the intent and purpose of cheating on you, why would you want to still be in that relationship? if presented the chance to cheat and she takes it right away, what does that tell you about her and your relationship together? let her go, if she cheats, you find out early. if she doesn't she thinks you are trusting and you get points.
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Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
July 19 2009 23:08 GMT
#86
On July 20 2009 05:10 Vilda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2009 03:56 Orlandu wrote:

On July 20 2009 03:43 Vilda wrote:
Lol inc, if my guy told me he didn't want me to hang out with a friend of mine because the guy had hit on me before I'd give him the finger and tell him to FO -_- but then again I'd never cheat on him either..


Attitudes like that are terribly disrespectful... That's great if things are working out well for you, but you need to know, that's a pretty disrespectful way to treat someone. To tell them that how they feel doesn't matter, that you don't care about their worries. Trust is something that is built up, not something that you're automatically entitled to. Whether they truly have trust for you or not, pulling stuff like what's quoted definitely isn't going to help build up any more trust.


If the case would be my bf telling me not to do something I really want to do, just because he doesn't want me to, how respectful is that towards me? It'd make me terribly uncomfortable and upset if someone that I love and trust fully would tell me that he didn't want me to hang out with one of my friends. Deciding things for me - or trying to - is something I find highly disrespectful as well.

Trust is indeed built up, but the guy says he trusts her already, if there was an issue with him trusting her I'd tell him to dump her as well, but if he really does trust her, then there is no reason not to let her go. And in my opinion he isn't the one deciding whether she gets to go or not in the first place.


If your boyfriend told you not to do something just because he didn't want you to, then yes, that would be disrespectful. But that's not what we're talking about at all. In the discussion at hand there's a very legit reason for concern that delves far deeper than him simply "not wanting her to." As someone else pointed out, if the girlfriend is consciously choosing to hang out with guys that hit on her over spending time with her boyfriend or doing something else, ESPECIALLY when she knows that it makes him uncomfortable, then there's something wrong there. That is a very legit complaint and is in no way equivalent to him simply not wanting her to hang out with friends that happen to be guys.

We seem to be in agreement that respect is important. What I don't think that you're understanding is how what the girl is doing actually is disrespectful. This isn't about trust. I'll reiterate what I said before: you can trust someone and still feel uncomfortable about situations. Just because you trust someone doesn't mean that they're not in a bad situation. In cases like these it doesn't matter how much the guy trusts the girl or not, they're still in a bad situation. Even if the girl would never ever eeeeeever cheat on the guy, there's still something to be said about the situation and the people involved. It's not always a simple issue that can be simplified to a girl hanging out with a friend that happens to be a guy.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
July 19 2009 23:13 GMT
#87
"Look, I'm fine with you hanging out with your friends, but can you at least tell your guy friends straight-up to stop making moves on you? That really makes me uncomfortable."
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
July 20 2009 00:10 GMT
#88
fuck that thats what someone who is looking to be walked all over says. say that if you want to look like a complete bitch.
you dont ask politely for your girlfriend to stop hanging out with someone trying to seduce her.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 20 2009 03:10 GMT
#89
Is it controlling of me if I don't want my girlfriend to go drinking or shisha with just 1 other guy?

this is a date, unless you know the dude pretty well and trust him.

- She doesn't consider the people as REALLY REALLY old friends.

what?

- The one guy tried to like "do shit" last time they went shisha but I was there to stop it.

Do shit? You mean kiss/hug/sex? or fight? What do you mean. Either way it sounds obvious.

- She won't let me tell the guys to "fuck off" so to say because they are her friends.

Just tell the dudes that she is your GF, and you protect your belongings with your life.

- I would never do this kind of shit to her.

You obviously have trust/insecurity issues about your women. If you are confident in your relationship neither of you should really care who the other hangs out with.

- Isn't there some sort of "guy code" that pretty much tells the guy not to even ask the girl this stuff?

lol, yea, tell him to fuck off, she's taken.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 20 2009 03:24 GMT
#90
CM and I agree completely.

<3
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
July 20 2009 03:31 GMT
#91
She sounds typically Korean. (sigh* stereotypes are created for a reason...)
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zaMNal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Mongolia385 Posts
July 20 2009 03:40 GMT
#92
On July 20 2009 03:43 Vilda wrote:
Lol inc, if my guy told me he didn't want me to hang out with a friend of mine because the guy had hit on me before I'd give him the finger and tell him to FO -_- but then again I'd never cheat on him either..

no wonder you DON'T have a guy, haha
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
July 20 2009 03:48 GMT
#93
a girl hanging out with her friend is not a date..
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
July 20 2009 03:51 GMT
#94
On July 20 2009 02:51 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
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On July 20 2009 02:48 Jayme wrote:
Everytime I read threads like this I get confused.

Is the concept of trust foreign now?

Like when I get into a relationship with someone at this point you should really really like said person and give them the benefit of the doubt in most situations.

What the hell is the point of a relationship if you don't have just about near unconditional trust in them to "allow" them to go somewhere on their own...

Then again I don't bother to get into a relationship just to be in one, I actually have to give a shit about the other person.


Maybe he trusts her but not the guy.

Maybe her "cluelessness" makes for problems he'd rather (shouldn't) deal with.

Trusting someone is fine.. but trusting someone who puts themselves in reckless situations is bad. It isn't like this is some great friend who is being purely platonic.. he has a history of faggotry.

I love tl.net's over emphasized sense of macho.

"MY WOMAN DOES WHATEVER CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY blah blah blah"


Since when was that macho? Macho sounds more like:

"SHE IS MY WOMAN! YOU SO MUCH AS LOOK AT HER AND I WILL BUST YOUR HEAD IN blah blah blah"
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 20 2009 04:04 GMT
#95
On July 20 2009 12:48 Gene wrote:
a girl hanging out with her friend is not a date..


a girl going to a bar to have drinks and smoke hookah with a guy is a date.. unless they are completely platonic and have no other intentions.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 20 2009 04:05 GMT
#96
On July 20 2009 12:51 Tom Phoenix wrote:
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On July 20 2009 02:51 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On July 20 2009 02:48 Jayme wrote:
Everytime I read threads like this I get confused.

Is the concept of trust foreign now?

Like when I get into a relationship with someone at this point you should really really like said person and give them the benefit of the doubt in most situations.

What the hell is the point of a relationship if you don't have just about near unconditional trust in them to "allow" them to go somewhere on their own...

Then again I don't bother to get into a relationship just to be in one, I actually have to give a shit about the other person.


Maybe he trusts her but not the guy.

Maybe her "cluelessness" makes for problems he'd rather (shouldn't) deal with.

Trusting someone is fine.. but trusting someone who puts themselves in reckless situations is bad. It isn't like this is some great friend who is being purely platonic.. he has a history of faggotry.

I love tl.net's over emphasized sense of macho.

"MY WOMAN DOES WHATEVER CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY blah blah blah"


Since when was that macho? Macho sounds more like:

"SHE IS MY WOMAN! YOU SO MUCH AS LOOK AT HER AND I WILL BUST YOUR HEAD IN blah blah blah"


We can argue the levels of machoism if you like.. but my post was saying that it is simply hilarious when I have met a pretty good sample of the TL.net population.. notably unmacho imo.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 04:37:22
July 20 2009 04:34 GMT
#97
but this is about smoking flavoured tobacco only? I'm confused, was it a club where they were supposed to meet at ? bringing water pipe to a club...?

What about my acting proposal >.< this would make her motives IF SHE HAS ANY more than clear?
like gg no re kthxbai?

+ Show Spoiler [my proposal how to solve this smelly s…] +
2) Do you know any other girl close enough to tell her about this situation (starting with what she's going to do and what you know about that guy) to ask her to act like she's hitting on you and you respond to that in friendly manner when your gf is around?
See her reaction then ask when is she going to meet with that penis then ask her how she felt. Then tell her both what really happened. She should be impressed that you can go that far just to make her understand how you feel!

edit: Try to remember how you met each other and how started to be together. Was she easy to be picked up lol?


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Arnic
Profile Joined January 2009
81 Posts
July 20 2009 04:35 GMT
#98
The only way this kind of thing gets sorted out properly is when the two people involved actually communicate honestly with each other.

Now, if you say to her: "I don't want you going out and spending an evening with that asshat of a guy because he hit on you last time, he's a douche and you should tell him to fuck off".

You are being controlling. You're explicitly telling her what she should or shouldn't do. You're creating fences around a person to keep them where you want them and although that person may not leap over to check out the grass on the other side, they might begin to feel hemmed in, unhappy and untrusted.

But, if you say to her: "Hey, it makes me feel worried that you're going to be spending an evening with someone who doesn't respect the fact that you're in a relationship. Is there a chance that you could see him and take some of your other friends along with you when you go?"

It's a bit armchair-psychological but you're removing the controlling words (I don't want you to..) or anything that seems overly agressive and replacing them with words which show care and concern, you'd also be offering a reasonable compromise by asking if she could take other friends along.
People tend to respond better when they can really understand how you feel and why as well as how their actions would affect you. You can try to ask her how she would feel if the situation were reversed, most people will automatically say "Oh, I'd be OK with that". Fair enough, some people would be alright with it but then again, some will reply without actually putting themselves into that situation so they can empathize with how you're feeling.

Say to her: "So, we go out for a night with our friends and there's a girl who flirts with me in front of you. She completely ignores the fact that we're together and she keeps doing it even though I'm not encouraging her in any way. How would you feel if I said I was going to be spending an evening alone with that girl?"

If she thinks about it and still says she'd be genuinely OK with you doing that and you believe her, accept it. Do not try and set that situation up to test her, that's a manipulative and stupid idea which is likely to backfire and create a shitload of unwanted drama.

It'd be a great world if there was a code of chivalry which all gentlemen adhered to when it comes to other people's girlfriends but unfortunately, there will always be people who don't give a shit.
I don't know how well you know this other guy but any agression towards him from you is likely to make things worse. However tempting it is to give him a good kicking, he's not done enough to deserve that and if you go steaming in with fists ready in defence of your lady's honour, you'll come off looking like you're insecure about something and need a fight to prove your worth.

It could be that he flirts with a lot of girls, he could be the type of guy who does it to all his female friends. I've known guys who do that and they do it more when girls have their boyfriends around, it's like some kind of primal territory test. Be a better guy than him and don't respond with instinct.

This kind of thing is easy to blow out of proportion, especially when you're worried, you don't know how to react or what to say and it's making you think emotionally rather than logically. There is a tendancy to think along dramatic lines when relationships reach these types of hurdles ie: "If she doesn't agree with me on this, fuck her, it's over".
No matter who you date, you'll never be able to be with them at all times, making sure that everything they do works out well or that everyone they hang out with treats them in a way you're happy with. Trust is an absolute requirement in a decent relationship and if you genuinely trust your girlfriend not to cheat on you, as you've said you do, then stop worrying, let her off your mental leash and let her do the things she wants to do.

As BalliSLife said, they're going to be in a public place and it's a social thing. It's not like they're going to be totally alone with no one around, you could always ask to meet her afterwards, maybe go to get food or something.

At the end of the day, if you really want to make a stand over this, it's up to you but consider the possible consequences. If you try talking to her and she continually fails to understand your concerns or to listen to you reasonably, if you are unable to find a compromise or if you have doubts about her trustworthiness then you'll need to make some kind of decision about how or if you'll continue things with her but keep in mind that this situation is a common one and you may run into it again.

I didn't mean for this to be so longwinded, I hope it makes sense and that you manage to get things sorted out with your girlfriend in a way which makes you happy.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 04:44:48
July 20 2009 04:40 GMT
#99
OK Inc, how big dick do you think Arnic has :D?
still reading btw

edit: ahahah my mom told me info in OP is lacking and utter bs, not worth talking about O.O
yehe no-lives in 5page 2kviews thread
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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
July 20 2009 04:55 GMT
#100
Why does this have so many views? I'm glad for most of the replies because it somewhat helped me a bit this afternoon but a lot of people are like way out of the ballpark. In any case, she'd rather lose all her guy friends than lose me as a boyfriend so I'm good to go. Thanks guys.
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Arnic
Profile Joined January 2009
81 Posts
July 20 2009 04:58 GMT
#101
kOre - Glad to hear it, she sounds like a keeper in that case. Hope it all works out for you.

beetlelisk - Twice as long as half it's length.


beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 05:02:52
July 20 2009 04:59 GMT
#102
On July 20 2009 13:35 Arnic wrote:
People tend to respond better when they can really understand how you feel and why as well as how their actions would affect you. You can try to ask her how she would feel if the situation were reversed, most people will automatically say "Oh, I'd be OK with that". Fair enough, some people would be alright with it but then again, some will reply without actually putting themselves into that situation so they can empathize with how you're feeling.

Say to her: "So, we go out for a night with our friends and there's a girl who flirts with me in front of you. She completely ignores the fact that we're together and she keeps doing it even though I'm not encouraging her in any way. How would you feel if I said I was going to be spending an evening alone with that girl?"


See? Arnic you are backing up my idea without even reading it

If she thinks about it and still says she'd be genuinely OK with you doing that and you believe her, accept it. Do not try and set that situation up to test her, that's a manipulative and stupid idea which is likely to backfire and create a shitload of unwanted drama.


Yeah, how have you started those conversations that "only lead to fight" kOre?

This kind of thing is easy to blow out of proportion, especially when you're worried, you don't know how to react or what to say and it's making you think emotionally rather than logically. There is a tendancy to think along dramatic lines when relationships reach these types of hurdles ie: "If she doesn't agree with me on this, fuck her, it's over".
No matter who you date, you'll never be able to be with them at all times, making sure that everything they do works out well or that everyone they hang out with treats them in a way you're happy with. Trust is an absolute requirement in a decent relationship and if you genuinely trust your girlfriend not to cheat on you, as you've said you do, then stop worrying, let her off your mental leash and let her do the things she wants to do.

As BalliSLife said, they're going to be in a public place and it's a social thing. It's not like they're going to be totally alone with no one around, you could always ask to meet her afterwards, maybe go to get food or something.

At the end of the day, if you really want to make a stand over this, it's up to you but consider the possible consequences. If you try talking to her and she continually fails to understand your concerns or to listen to you reasonably, if you are unable to find a compromise or if you have doubts about her trustworthiness then you'll need to make some kind of decision about how or if you'll continue things with her but keep in mind that this situation is a common one and you may run into it again.


Couldn't put it better.

I didn't mean for this to be so longwinded, I hope it makes sense and that you manage to get things sorted out with your girlfriend in a way which makes you happy.

:D

On July 20 2009 13:58 Arnic wrote:
kOre - Glad to hear it, she sounds like a keeper in that case. Hope it all works out for you.

beetlelisk - Twice as long as half it's length.



kk:D waiting for Inc's response ;P
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Arnic
Profile Joined January 2009
81 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 05:26:12
July 20 2009 05:25 GMT
#103
See? Arnic you are backing up my idea without even reading it


Do not fear, I read it. I just think there's a big difference between explaining a scenario to someone and actually acting it out with a punk'd style "HAHA! This was all a setup to teach you a valuable lesson about emotions!" afterwards.
I'm not disagreeing with your reasoning because that's completely sound and I'm with you on that, but I don't really think the method itself would work out the way it's intended. Although I wouldn't mind watching it being acted out and seeing how it went down
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
July 20 2009 08:44 GMT
#104
i dont think shell actually drop all her guy friends for you as u just stated
and if she stops hanging out with them
shell use it against you to her friends or whenever you argue
saying you are controlling and shit
relationships can be fun!
troi oi thang map nai!!!
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
July 20 2009 12:08 GMT
#105
Girl's always doesn't want us to be tactless and go psycho shit with another dude that's why she hates it when you say "Fuck Off" to her friend.

Anyway, good for you that she decided to still chose you between all his guy friends.

I suggest try to be friend the dude that's trying to hit on her, then if he makes a fucked up move like "so, you'll be my friend because I'm hitting on your girl?" then you can use that as an advantage to fuck him up.

I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
July 20 2009 12:40 GMT
#106
take care about that if every week end she does kinda same thing. random guys are the worst in general.
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