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disciple
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nttea
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fanatacist
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JWD
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PluS
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citi.zen
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Other than that... fanaticist is right: don't fret too much :-) | ||
Nyovne
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KH1031
United States862 Posts
If I did It - OJ Simpson It wasn't Me - Shaggy That should send a clear signal...or not. | ||
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Marradron
Netherlands1586 Posts
Why would she contact you after 14 months of no contact. If you had become friends after the relation it might have been difrent. But now just stay out of it imo | ||
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Kgosi
Iceland79 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:24 Nyovne wrote: With all due respect but, dodged that bullet dude. QFT | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:37 Marradron wrote: I agree with nyovne. Why would she contact you after 14 months of no contact. If you had become friends after the relation it might have been difrent. But now just stay out of it imo Girls use you as a shoulder to cry on, they feel good about the fact that a guy they haven't spoken to in over a year is willing to hear their shit. That's how they raise their self-esteem. | ||
MrHoon
10183 Posts
I was hoping for some huge irl drama But yeah disciple, stay away from her at all costs. Keep making your awesome banners and try to forget that this ever happened. Oh right but don't be a dick to her but at the same time not so nice | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:20 JWD wrote: Try to be friendly and supportive, but don't get too involved. This is really between her and her new boyfriend...I foresee danger if you get too close and let yourself fall for her again. The unfolding of a real life Korean drama? | ||
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MoltkeWarding
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fanatacist
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On July 18 2009 01:47 MoltkeWarding wrote: Which city is she in? We must gather information to make certain that the supposed father of this child is not of Chinese descent. | ||
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disciple
9070 Posts
I told her she has my support and going home is the right thing to do, so I guess I did just fine in the situation. Btw she is in Stuttgart atm, I'm in Freiburg | ||
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ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:12 fanatacist wrote: As long as it's not yours, don't fret too much. It's her choice, to keep the baby. Yea seriously. A baby so early in your life could just ruin the rest of it. Supporting her is nice, but ultimately, it is not your problem. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:54 fanatacist wrote: We must gather information to make certain that the supposed father of this child is not of Chinese descent. Nonsense. I'm certain that a Sino-Bulgar child has never existed in history. | ||
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indecision
Germany818 Posts
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:58 indecision wrote: what kinda difference does a Chinese father make? must... resist... bad chinese... joke... UHGGG | ||
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MoltkeWarding
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disciple
9070 Posts
On July 18 2009 02:03 MoltkeWarding wrote: The child will probably be beaten into a regimented and unhappy childhood, and grow up with a dearth of imagination and wit. In that case I would advise the prospective mother to remain in Germany after all. hahaha I'm completely sure nothing like that will happen, at least from a financial point of view she wont have any problems taking care of 5 kids, if thats the only problem with it. Besides I have no idea how she will make it in here, taking care of new born in a foreign country. If she is in Bulgaria at least the grandmother could change the dippers while she is getting drunk in the disco | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:56 MoltkeWarding wrote: Nonsense. I'm certain that a Sino-Bulgar child has never existed in history. I would like you to provide evidence to support this certainty which you state so plainly, when it is evident that any combination of races can reproduce at any time with the advent of the internet and airfare. | ||
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ForTheSwarm
United States556 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:11 nttea wrote: I think she wanted your support (: my advice to her would be to "murder" the "baby" and continue with her studies, she can get another one later. Lol. She wanted you to come over and punch her stomach as hard as you can. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On July 18 2009 02:10 fanatacist wrote: I would like you to provide evidence to support this certainty which you state so plainly, when it is evident that any combination of races can reproduce at any time with the advent of the internet and airfare. My evidence is that I've never seen one or heard of one. Apart from that, logical induction tells me that no Bulgar would marry a Chinaman. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On July 18 2009 02:17 For_The_Swarm wrote: Lol. She wanted you to come over and punch her stomach as hard as you can. ![[image loading]](http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/4/4e/Falconlinkpunch.jpg) | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
He wants to know WHY she called him. After 14 months, why? Because she still cares about him, because they were just 'dating other people', and there was always the possibility that they could get back together, and maybe she secretly wanted that. That possibility, however small, was always there, so she never acted on it. With a baby on the way, that possibility is basically gone. Essentially, she was calling you to say the possibility of you and her being together was gone, and maybe she needed that closure to know for sure that you had moved on to. Or maybe she was hoping you'd put up your last stand and make a play for her. *shrugs* I bet she didn't know what she wanted herself, women never do. Women just hate not knowing what our feelings/thoughts are (even though we usually don't have any, they never believe us). Anyways, that's my take on it, but my fiance actually says I'm wrong too, lol.  | ||
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piratebay
United States399 Posts
but yeah dude, it aint your problem. just tell her good luck and send her on her merry way in ruining her future. u dodged a bullet yo | ||
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
1, laughing at another 'logical' Moltke comment (Jesus, could you be more pretentious?) 2, teaching disciple that even though "hole" and "whole" are pronounced in a similar way, they are different words. I.e. "this whole situation" etc. This isn't flamebait, I love your banners disciple, and as a fellow Bisu zealot you have my full support in whatever you do! | ||
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piratebay
United States399 Posts
On July 18 2009 02:27 EvilTeletubby wrote: Pfffffft, damn, we need more females to post on here, because so far no one has got it right... everyone is just "thank god you're not the father", etc. Which yes, that's the right reaction for a guy, but... He wants to know WHY she called him. After 14 months, why? Because she still cares about him, because they were just 'dating other people', and there was always the possibility that they could get back together, and maybe she secretly wanted that. That possibility, however small, was always there, so she never acted on it. With a baby on the way, that possibility is basically gone. Essentially, she was calling you to say the possibility of you and her being together was gone, and maybe she needed that closure to know for sure that you had moved on to. Or maybe she was hoping you'd put up your last stand and make a play for her. *shrugs* I bet she didn't know what she wanted herself, women never do. Women just hate not knowing what our feelings/thoughts are (even though we usually don't have any, they never believe us). Anyways, that's my take on it, but my fiance actually says I'm wrong too, lol. i personally think she was really nervous and wanted some reassurance she was doing the right thing. i mean the guy was with her for years right(the poster on here)? maybe she wanted to hear she was making a mistake or something, but most likely, she just needed some reassurance on a big blind leap into a different path of life. | ||
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NintendoPrincess
United States50 Posts
luv ya byebye >  | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
On July 18 2009 02:27 EvilTeletubby wrote: Pfffffft, damn, we need more females to post on here, because so far no one has got it right... everyone is just "thank god you're not the father", etc. Which yes, that's the right reaction for a guy, but... He wants to know WHY she called him. After 14 months, why? Because she still cares about him, because they were just 'dating other people', and there was always the possibility that they could get back together, and maybe she secretly wanted that. That possibility, however small, was always there, so she never acted on it. With a baby on the way, that possibility is basically gone. Essentially, she was calling you to say the possibility of you and her being together was gone, and maybe she needed that closure to know for sure that you had moved on to. Or maybe she was hoping you'd put up your last stand and make a play for her. *shrugs* I bet she didn't know what she wanted herself, women never do. Women just hate not knowing what our feelings/thoughts are (even though we usually don't have any, they never believe us). Anyways, that's my take on it, but my fiance actually says I'm wrong too, lol. This is interesting, but also interesting is that biologically men tend to respond more strongly to stress/emotional symptoms. Consequently, their stress hormones/responses become more easily agitated and they are less able to deal with emotionally intense situations, leading to a man's greater propensity to "walk away" from a situation or to take some time to cool off. There's a study where a group of 6-year-olds were presented with a two-way baby monitor on the other end of which was a crying baby. The boys were much more likely to turn the monitor off, whereas the girls would try to calm the baby down; however, rather than being disinterested or unable to sympathize with the baby, the boys had markedly higher levels of stress hormones than the girls, leading them to be unable to stand the situation and thus turn the monitor off. Sorry for the rambling, but I think OP's situation shows that women are a lot more likely to reach out for emotional support in troubling times, whereas men try to ignore it, and it's curious that there seem to be fundamental biological reasons for this. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 18 2009 02:20 MoltkeWarding wrote: My evidence is that I've never seen one or heard of one. Apart from that, logical induction tells me that no Bulgar would marry a Chinaman. Logical induction tells me that no first-hand experience is not an appropriate candidate for classification as "evidence," and that you have a hard time accepting the fact that people of an ethnicity do not have to follow the general trends of the culture from which they originate. If there are both Western and Eastern Europeans traveling to Asian nations for both business and leisure on a daily basis, there can easily be a non-traditionalist Bulgar who finds love in China. Your sinophobia is markedly humorous but also transparently false in both its tenacity and subliminal voracity. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
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On July 18 2009 02:29 Naib wrote: This blog serves two purposes: 1, laughing at another 'logical' Moltke comment (Jesus, could you be more pretentious?) 2, teaching disciple that even though "hole" and "whole" are pronounced in a similar way, they are different words. I.e. "this whole situation" etc. This isn't flamebait, I love your banners disciple, and as a fellow Bisu zealot you have my full support in whatever you do! I am doing a presentation on Anglo-Hungarian relations next week. Mind if I use your post to exhibit the differences between English and Hungarian humour? | ||
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NintendoPrincess
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fanatacist
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On July 18 2009 02:27 EvilTeletubby wrote: Pfffffft, damn, we need more females to post on here, because so far no one has got it right... everyone is just "thank god you're not the father", etc. Which yes, that's the right reaction for a guy, but... He wants to know WHY she called him. After 14 months, why? Because she still cares about him, because they were just 'dating other people', and there was always the possibility that they could get back together, and maybe she secretly wanted that. That possibility, however small, was always there, so she never acted on it. With a baby on the way, that possibility is basically gone. Essentially, she was calling you to say the possibility of you and her being together was gone, and maybe she needed that closure to know for sure that you had moved on to. Or maybe she was hoping you'd put up your last stand and make a play for her. *shrugs* I bet she didn't know what she wanted herself, women never do. Women just hate not knowing what our feelings/thoughts are (even though we usually don't have any, they never believe us). Anyways, that's my take on it, but my fiance actually says I'm wrong too, lol. There are lots of things motivating people to do things both consciously and unconsciously. This is easily one of the reasons, but I think like I said before, the idea that you can call a boyfriend from years ago and have them care about you is a comfort and an ego-booster. | ||
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disciple
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and I really really want to be taken as a person and not as a banner / wallpaper guy... I'm doing gfx stuff for the community, because I'm enjoying it, I dont see it as a work or service... | ||
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fanatacist
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No one thinks of anyone on this site as just a machine cranking out useful things (except konadora maybe). I think most people on TL are mature enough to realize there are real people with real people at the keyboard behind the alias. It's just that it's easy to associate people with what they are known for. Konadora is a forum whore/translator. I am an asshole. You do graphics. Keep on rolling. | ||
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disciple
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Ronald_McD
Canada807 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:42 MrHoon wrote: man thread titles these days are so misleading I was hoping for some huge irl drama This. I had a friend who broke up with his ex and found out a few months later that she was pregnant. He has a 2 or 3 year old daughter now. The dumb ass didn't wear a condom. Or even at least pull out lol. Anyways, this blog is a lot less dramatic than I was suspecting. It's not really your problem, but I guess she was just reminding you as a friendly concern just in case it at least matters to you at all | ||
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citi.zen
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On July 18 2009 02:27 EvilTeletubby wrote: He wants to know WHY she called him. After 14 months, why? Not well integrated socially in Germany & lonely. This may be why she got pregnant on vacation in Bulgaria too I guess... | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On July 18 2009 02:27 EvilTeletubby wrote: Pfffffft, damn, we need more females to post on here, because so far no one has got it right... everyone is just "thank god you're not the father", etc. Which yes, that's the right reaction for a guy, but... He wants to know WHY she called him. After 14 months, why? Because she still cares about him, because they were just 'dating other people', and there was always the possibility that they could get back together, and maybe she secretly wanted that. That possibility, however small, was always there, so she never acted on it. With a baby on the way, that possibility is basically gone. Essentially, she was calling you to say the possibility of you and her being together was gone, and maybe she needed that closure to know for sure that you had moved on to. Or maybe she was hoping you'd put up your last stand and make a play for her. *shrugs* I bet she didn't know what she wanted herself, women never do. Women just hate not knowing what our feelings/thoughts are (even though we usually don't have any, they never believe us). Anyways, that's my take on it, but my fiance actually says I'm wrong too, lol. That's a gem of a post ETT. I hope the OP reads it. My humble take is that she's probably very scared at this point. If she was going to raise the child she would need support. A part of her (however small) wanted to ring you, just in case you would meet her and maybe get back together. She knew it was a ridiculous long shot, but I guess she still trusts you more than this other guy. Everything has now changed for her. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:20 JWD wrote: Try to be friendly and supportive, but don't get too involved. This is really between her and her new boyfriend...I foresee danger if you get too close and let yourself fall for her again. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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NintendoPrincess
United States50 Posts
On July 18 2009 02:43 disciple wrote: having the baby and going back home has nothing to do with him. She just wanted to tell me that she will have the child no matter what, even if he has smth against it. I'm just guessing she will marry the guy, cause thats what I would do. and I really really want to be taken as a person and not as a banner / wallpaper guy... I'm doing gfx stuff for the community, because I'm enjoying it, I dont see it as a work or service... okay i'm not trying to be mean but if you already knew all of this why are you making this blog and asking everyone why you think she called when you really don't care in the first place i feel that you might have some misplaced issues with this young woman that might have never really had disovled. | ||
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foeffa
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disciple
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This doesnt mean, that I have no interest in whats going on with her. As I said, I respect her a lot, but I really dont know how to help or to support her right now, cause I'm not part of her life for a very long time now. Therefore I dont understand why she called me in first place. I'm just a long good memory thats all | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On July 18 2009 03:30 disciple wrote: I care a lot about her, it was just so that we could'nt 'just be friends' This doesnt mean, that I have no interest in whats going on with her. As I said, I respect her a lot, but I really dont know how to help or to support her right now, cause I'm not part of her life for a very long time now. Therefore I dont understand why she called me in first place. I'm just a long good memory thats all Don't you think it has something to do with all her priorities changing? Suddenly she realises she needs to be with someone that she can really trust, you're that person. Even though she'd never admit it, I bet she wishes she was still with you right now. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
Women are like elephants, never forget anything. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:38 fanatacist wrote: Girls use you as a shoulder to cry on, they feel good about the fact that a guy they haven't spoken to in over a year is willing to hear their shit. That's how they raise their self-esteem. Your an epitome of information on how to deal with women | ||
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fanatacist
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On July 18 2009 03:49 StorrZerg wrote: Your an epitome of information on how to deal with women Yea I have some know-how. I'm no Kennigit though. | ||
DivinO
United States4796 Posts
You supported her, I suppose? | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On July 18 2009 02:41 MoltkeWarding wrote: I am doing a presentation on Anglo-Hungarian relations next week. Mind if I use your post to exhibit the differences between English and Hungarian humour? Please don't take him as our representative | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On July 18 2009 03:40 Eatme wrote: Well girls have weird memory so 14months is nothing. Girls I've had various forms of relationships with can drag up stories for an infinite time in the past. Yesterday a girl i hooked up with a few times for some unknown reason got mad at me and started talking about a girl I made out with at a party 7years ago. Havent seen that girl since that night so the logic for bringing that up is something a guy could never understand. Women are like elephants, never forget anything. This is the opposite of my experiences. My ex doesnt remember shit whereas I vividly remember every detail. Ive always had a good long term memory though, and she always had a shitty one. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 18 2009 04:33 Mastermind wrote: This is the opposite of my experiences. My ex doesnt remember shit whereas I vividly remember every detail. Ive always had a good long term memory though, and she always had a shitty one. You obviously either 1. Cared more about her than her about you 2. Had a harder time moving on than she did (who left who, and on what circumstances) or 3. You have a feminine romantic mind and she has a male one. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
On July 18 2009 04:33 Mastermind wrote: This is the opposite of my experiences. My ex doesnt remember shit whereas I vividly remember every detail. Ive always had a good long term memory though, and she always had a shitty one. Well this girl is far from the only one doing stuff like that. Dragging up random girls they know about from my past. Dont even have to be one I've done anything with, could be an old classmate or whatever. As long as it is a girl that I know or knew it seems to fly. Sure I remember those girls too but I dont know what it would have to do with anything the girl and I are talking about at the moment. Oddly enough they dont mention my past girlfriends. Maybe just havent happend yet. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
On July 18 2009 02:27 EvilTeletubby wrote: Pfffffft, damn, we need more females to post on here, because so far no one has got it right... everyone is just "thank god you're not the father", etc. Which yes, that's the right reaction for a guy, but... He wants to know WHY she called him. After 14 months, why? Because she still cares about him, because they were just 'dating other people', and there was always the possibility that they could get back together, and maybe she secretly wanted that. That possibility, however small, was always there, so she never acted on it. With a baby on the way, that possibility is basically gone. Essentially, she was calling you to say the possibility of you and her being together was gone, and maybe she needed that closure to know for sure that you had moved on to. Or maybe she was hoping you'd put up your last stand and make a play for her. *shrugs* I bet she didn't know what she wanted herself, women never do. Women just hate not knowing what our feelings/thoughts are (even though we usually don't have any, they never believe us). Anyways, that's my take on it, but my fiance actually says I'm wrong too, lol. On July 18 2009 06:20 CharlieMurphy wrote: I don't really see the point of this thread, her being pregnant has nothing to do with you lol./ They were together for 4 years right? And broke up only because they were in different cities. I wouldn't say she had a feelings for him after breaking up for so long, more like she needed to tell that someone she has been close with and possibly edit2 hear some comfort? And nothing more? | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
![[image loading]](http://h.imagehost.org/0353/maury-paternity-test-talk-show.jpg) Maury always gets to the down and dirty truth | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
"So watcha gonna do?" | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
she had nobody to call who was better to speak to then you... When she moves back she will reconnect with old friends and you will probably hear very little from her. Ignore this call | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:11 nttea wrote: I think she wanted your support (: my advice to her would be to "murder" the "baby" and continue with her studies, she can get another one later. So murder a baby because why? She wants it let her have it and raise it. Also, guy with story hope it isnt yours lol, i dont see why she would be telling you all of this if you arent involved somehow. | ||
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disciple
9070 Posts
On July 18 2009 08:34 GreEny K wrote: So murder a baby because why? She wants it let her have it and raise it. Also, guy with story hope it isnt yours lol, i dont see why she would be telling you all of this if you arent involved somehow. because when I say "I'll be there for you whenever you need me" I really mean it. | ||
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
On July 18 2009 08:31 Patriot.dlk wrote: She probably don't have alot of friends because she moved away and had a boyfriend for so long. She picked up her phone thinking "im gonna call someone" she had nobody to call who was better to speak to then you... When she moves back she will reconnect with old friends and you will probably hear very little from her. Ignore this call Wait, why should he ignore it? Maybe it should be more like "ignore your belief about her calling you because she wants to be with you again" lol? So many ppl thinking with their dicks only  | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On July 18 2009 08:02 beetlelisk wrote: They were together for 4 years right? And broke up only because they were in different cities. I wouldn't say she had a feelings for him after breaking up for so long, more like she needed to tell that someone she has been close with and possibly edit2 hear some comfort? And nothing more? No I understand why he would care, and why she would call him. What I don't understand is why this would warrant a thread. He made it seem like he slept with his ex and got her pregnant but then bait and switch and he hasn't seen her in over a year. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On July 18 2009 10:45 CharlieMurphy wrote: No I understand why he would care, and why she would call him. What I don't understand is why this would warrant a thread. He made it seem like he slept with his ex and got her pregnant but then bait and switch and he hasn't seen her in over a year. you sure you're not just jealous he's getting all this attention? | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
Why would you think I was jealous btw? | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On July 18 2009 10:45 CharlieMurphy wrote: No I understand why he would care, and why she would call him. What I don't understand is why this would warrant a thread. He made it seem like he slept with his ex and got her pregnant but then bait and switch and he hasn't seen her in over a year. it's a thread in the blog forum people create blog threads about a whole variety of stuff (generally having something to do with themselves) because that's what it's meant for | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
Props to ETT that tried to solve your doubts and the only guy that noted that your main question is "why did she tell you first about this?", the rest of TL seems to be emotionally retarded :/ | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On July 18 2009 12:04 CharlieMurphy wrote: I don't get jealous of people IRL, why would that ever be the case with some stranger online? Why would you think I was jealous btw? oh it's unrelated i guess. was disappointed in your ex thread~ ! | ||
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Fen
Australia1848 Posts
I think shes setting herself up for a failure. She is making sure that you're still there for her, so when her boyfriend flips out, she can come to you for emotional support. | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On July 18 2009 01:09 disciple wrote: so I was just like 'Congrats! I'm happy for you!'. That was what you did wrong, this is a huge thing! If she hasn't talked about wanting a baby before then most likely this is a very heavy period for her. Talking like that just made her feel bad, you should have gone a lot slower like "Oh, is that a good thing or a bad thing?" and let her talk about it instead of assuming that everything was flowery like you did. But if you never want to see her again you did the right thing  | ||
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Commander-Zerg
Canada341 Posts
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
But on your situation, it seems like shes scared and thinks she can confide in you. If your not taken back by her wanting to talk to you, you could probably be good support for her. Or maybe she just wants you, again. You'll never knows unless you take the plunge to ask her. | ||
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The Storyteller
Singapore2486 Posts
On July 18 2009 02:03 MoltkeWarding wrote: The child will probably be beaten into a regimented and unhappy childhood, and grow up with a dearth of imagination and wit. In that case I would advise the prospective mother to remain in Germany after all. Yes, because the Germans are renowned for being jolly, unregimented, imaginative and witty. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On July 18 2009 12:13 Malongo wrote: Props to ETT that tried to solve your doubts and the only guy that noted that your main question is "why did she tell you first about this?", the rest of TL seems to be emotionally retarded :/ Meh, I'm getting married in 6 days, so my vagina is already half-way finished. | ||
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poilord
Germany3252 Posts
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ReCharge
Philippines505 Posts
On July 18 2009 09:13 disciple wrote: because when I say "I'll be there for you whenever you need me" I really mean it. Ughh... This is why I hate making promises | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 18 2009 10:45 CharlieMurphy wrote: It's a fucking blog. You're the last person in the entire universe who should be criticizing other people's posting habits.No I understand why he would care, and why she would call him. What I don't understand is why this would warrant a thread. He made it seem like he slept with his ex and got her pregnant but then bait and switch and he hasn't seen her in over a year. | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On July 19 2009 13:24 The Storyteller wrote: Yes, because the Germans are renowned for being jolly, unregimented, imaginative and witty. They are. Germany is the land of poets and thinkers (Dichter und Denker). You're thinking of Prussia. | ||
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