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Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-15 05:07:38
July 15 2009 03:50 GMT
#1
<b>Don't recommend cars which are only available in manual transmission, I'm not going to buy a manual car </b>

Hi guys!

I need to buy a car! I haven't owned a car since I was in high school (I'm turning 23 soon), but I need to get one now. I know fuck all about cars, so I'm hoping some car fanatics on TL will be able to help me out by recommending some good cars. Here are the parameters I'm working under:

<ul><li>Cost is not specifically an issue, but I'd rather minimize the cost rather than going for the "coolest" car I can afford. I have ~$10000 I'm willing to put down as a down payment. I could go higher, but I'd rather not.
<li>I'm looking for a car, not a truck or SUV
<li>Although I'm not specifically opposed to the extended rear (like in Subaru station wagons or whatever), I'm definitely leaning towards a standard car back.
<li>4 wheel drive is a plus since I live in an area which can get snow/ice + (depending where I go, although not for work) can be hilly.
<li>Seats 5 (2 in the front, bench in the back)
<li>4 door, none of that "push the front seat forward then climb over it into the back" crap
<li>Any non-crazy color is fine
<li>Need adequate headroom--I'm quite tall
<li>Hybrid not necessary (and may be a negative, I don't know shit about hybrids -.-)
<li>Automatic (this is pretty much a given since I live in the USA though)
<li>Expensive sound system not necessary, just some standard shit
<li>Video player and stuff a negative, as I don't see much use for that and it's basically wasted money!
<li>???
</ul>

That's really all I can think of right now! New or used is not a big issue to me. If I do buy a used one, I'll be buying it from a reputable dealer with some kind of guarantee for some time, not some craigslist scammer fuck. I probably lean towards new though!

Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16968 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-15 03:56:05
July 15 2009 03:52 GMT
#2
I think you'd best be served by getting a well-rounded car known for its dependability and life, one that can serve you for years before you decide to get an upgraded vehicle. You might be able to get nicely equipped good condition used staples such as a Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, etc., depending on where you look.

EDIT: Oh, for driving in snow/ice you might actually want to learn how to drive a stick
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-15 03:55:00
July 15 2009 03:54 GMT
#3
get a used subaru impreza! or legacy those are nicer
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
July 15 2009 04:00 GMT
#4
On July 15 2009 12:52 Empyrean wrote:
I think you'd best be served by getting a well-rounded car known for its dependability and life, one that can serve you for years before you decide to get an upgraded vehicle. You might be able to get nicely equipped good condition used staples such as a Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, etc., depending on where you look.

EDIT: Oh, for driving in snow/ice you might actually want to learn how to drive a stick

We don't get heavy snow/ice, and there's 0% chance of me buying a stick ^^
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16968 Posts
July 15 2009 04:01 GMT
#5
On July 15 2009 13:00 HnR)Insane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2009 12:52 Empyrean wrote:
I think you'd best be served by getting a well-rounded car known for its dependability and life, one that can serve you for years before you decide to get an upgraded vehicle. You might be able to get nicely equipped good condition used staples such as a Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, etc., depending on where you look.

EDIT: Oh, for driving in snow/ice you might actually want to learn how to drive a stick

We don't get heavy snow/ice, and there's 0% chance of me buying a stick ^^


Still, Accords and Camries are wonderful, quality cars that you may be able to find a great deal on.
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gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
July 15 2009 04:06 GMT
#6
I don't think there are actually any cars that have 4WD that aren't SUVs/trucks, except maybe the forrester (which is kind of like an SUV).
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
July 15 2009 04:09 GMT
#7
On July 15 2009 13:06 gchan wrote:
I don't think there are actually any cars that have 4WD that aren't SUVs/trucks, except maybe the forrester (which is kind of like an SUV).


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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24637 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-15 04:13:04
July 15 2009 04:12 GMT
#8
On July 15 2009 13:06 gchan wrote:
I don't think there are actually any cars that have 4WD that aren't SUVs/trucks, except maybe the forrester (which is kind of like an SUV).

This is definitely not true lol.

Insane, where approximately are you living so I can get an idea of the weather? When I got my car a year ago I purposefully avoided rear wheel drive for a similar reason, but I haven't had a problem with front wheel drive so it depends on how severe the weather is by you if it's worth going for the all wheel drive. Keep in mind, all wheel drive typically reduces gas mileage, is more expensive, and greatly narrows your car choices.

edit: also any preferences on size, country, or even car company?

I have an online consumer reports account so I can look up any car you have an interest in to give you the scoop.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24637 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-15 04:24:40
July 15 2009 04:23 GMT
#9
I did a quick lookup of sedans and small cars with all wheel drive for under 30k dollars (just picked that out of a hat)

The highest overall rated cars were the Subaru Impreza WRX, Ford Fusion V6, Mercury Milan V6, Ford Taurus, and Mercury Sable (highest first)

When I increase the price roof to 40k:

Infinity G RWD, Subaru Impreza WRX STi, Acura TL, Cadillac CTS V6, Lexis IS 250, Mitsubishi LanEvo, Audi A4, Volkswagen CC (again highest first)

edit: the lookup tool I used was probably not exhaustive, and I only pulled the top 8 or so rated cars, I have access to the whole database
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-15 04:33:20
July 15 2009 04:32 GMT
#10
oh 10k down payment.

get a new impreza/legacy :D or lancer
or matrix

a lot of luxury vehicles also have awd options
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-15 04:46:59
July 15 2009 04:44 GMT
#11
Subaru WRX impreza + Show Spoiler +
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or

Hyundai Genesis Coupe + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If you have the money.


If you dont have the money, I would go for

Scion Tc
Toyota Corolla LE
Honda Accord/Civic

All reliable and cheap cars
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
July 15 2009 04:49 GMT
#12
On July 15 2009 13:12 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2009 13:06 gchan wrote:
I don't think there are actually any cars that have 4WD that aren't SUVs/trucks, except maybe the forrester (which is kind of like an SUV).

This is definitely not true lol.

Insane, where approximately are you living so I can get an idea of the weather? When I got my car a year ago I purposefully avoided rear wheel drive for a similar reason, but I haven't had a problem with front wheel drive so it depends on how severe the weather is by you if it's worth going for the all wheel drive. Keep in mind, all wheel drive typically reduces gas mileage, is more expensive, and greatly narrows your car choices.

edit: also any preferences on size, country, or even car company?

I have an online consumer reports account so I can look up any car you have an interest in to give you the scoop.

I live in Redmond, Washington. It's quite near Seattle, weather is pretty similar.
I'm not wedded to all wheel drive, it was just recommended to me is all.

Size, I prefer something of what one would consider a standard car size. I previously rented an Impala--something of that size is good.

I forgot to mention something which I absolutely love having in a car and would greatly increase my liking of: an arm rest for the right side of the driver.

I care absolutely nothing about country and car company
nvnplatypus
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Netherlands1300 Posts
July 15 2009 04:52 GMT
#13
I'm not a car guy either, but I've driven both V4 and V6 versions of the new Camry as a rental. IMO the car is quite underpowered with a V4; it just feels like its too big for the engine. So if that's a direction you're looking at I'd suggest paying up for the V6.

LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
July 15 2009 05:06 GMT
#14
WRX or EvoLancer!
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
July 15 2009 05:07 GMT
#15
WRX is not an option, it seems it has only manual and I don't want manual transmission.
techn1cal
Profile Joined May 2006
United States68 Posts
July 15 2009 05:16 GMT
#16
Go for an Audi A4
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 15 2009 05:18 GMT
#17
Subaru Legacy and Ford Fusion v6 are the closest match to your constraints. Both around $24k.

Might also want to look into something cheaper (Hyundai Elantra is a decent choice but has no AWD). Could save you 10-15k, which is nice, especially since you don't sound like a car enthusiast!
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
eMrg)limbo
Profile Joined June 2009
United States11 Posts
July 15 2009 05:57 GMT
#18
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Medzo
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States627 Posts
July 15 2009 06:40 GMT
#19
Get a toyota corolla they are nice and exactly what you're looking for. I have one, its the best "cars a car" car you can get. Its in your price range, good gas mileage, lasts a long time, and I cant think of anything negative about a corolla. I know my brother's is only 3 years old and its value actually has increased. Mine is about 8 years old, and the only problem I have had was someone broke a window to get in and realized I didn't have anything worth taking after they fucked with my radio and left.

Im not a car guy though, I just feel the same about cars as you do and I feel 105% happy with the corolla. Not sure what the latest versions have or whatever, but its a good "brand."
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
July 15 2009 06:43 GMT
#20
My dad has a Toyota Picnic. It's a completely normal standard reasonable useful car with lots of space, nothing fancy. It's reliable as hell, ours has over 200000km and causes no problems at all. It has no AWD, so better bring snowchains if you have serious winters. It works reasonably well on light snow without chains too. I have no idea if they built an automatic version for you lazy Americans Automatic transmission sucks hydralisk ass in winter anyway.
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