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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 23 2009 22:28 GMT
#21
I've read a lot of anthropology papers where people make these kinds of comparisons with sports in a country vs the kinds of workers who like and popularize them. You should get this shit published.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
April 23 2009 22:29 GMT
#22
On April 24 2009 07:16 EtherealDeath wrote:
oh hahahaha <3 gay chains of procs
would be so much better if crits were also timer based off of % like other hidden cooldowns and % chances, such as seal of command eh?


Well it feels amazing when I crit their healer back in the next match and basically down their healer in the time of them getting freeze trapped, they trinket and I scatter shot them. (On a side note, due to all these WoW discussions I looked up some stuff, and I saw there is no dead zone for Hunters now, haha can't imagine how much easier it is for Hunters to PvP in arena now)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 23 2009 22:33 GMT
#23
On April 24 2009 07:29 Shivaz wrote:
Well it feels amazing when I crit their healer back in the next match and basically down their healer in the time of them getting freeze trapped, they trinket and I scatter shot them. (On a side note, due to all these WoW discussions I looked up some stuff, and I saw there is no dead zone for Hunters now, haha can't imagine how much easier it is for Hunters to PvP in arena now)

I'm guessing this is one of the major reasons why Hunter went from being the most underplayed class in arenas in TBC, to being 3rd most used in WotLK. Its only behind DK and Paladin, which are pretty easy to call overpowered, given their ubiquitous dominance across 2s, 3s, and 5s.
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Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
April 23 2009 22:38 GMT
#24
I remember when there was only 2 Hunters in top 100 2v2 teams (Warlock and Warrior taking up like 70% of that) lol..... I imagine there quite possibly be alot more now.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 23 2009 22:40 GMT
#25
On April 24 2009 07:38 Shivaz wrote:
I remember when there was only 2 Hunters in top 100 2v2 teams (Warlock and Warrior taking up like 70% of that) lol..... I imagine there quite possibly be alot more now.

Most of those Warriors and Warlocks were paired with Druids rofl.

And I'm pretty sure there still aren't that many Hunters in 2s, because DK/Pala is dominating just as hard as Druid/Warrior, Druid/Warlock, and Druid/Rogue did in TBC. They get used a lot in 3s and 5s though I think.
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Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-23 22:45:58
April 23 2009 22:42 GMT
#26
Hunters were/will always be good to have in 5s

edit: and you are right about being underplayed in Arenas, I remember a statistic when I played Hunters were most played class in the game at 17% out of all the classes, and is the least played class in arena at 7-9% I think.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 23 2009 22:48 GMT
#27
On April 24 2009 07:42 Shivaz wrote:
Hunters were/will always be good to have in 5s

edit: and you are right about being underplayed in Arenas, I remember a statistic when I played Hunters were most played class in the game at 17% out of all the classes, and is the least played class in arena at 7-9% I think.


That's because..... *drumroll*

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Most hunters are hunTARDS
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
April 23 2009 22:59 GMT
#28
While I like your general idea. You quickly display your ignorance to how games get big. Games don't get big because they are easy and people like to waste time. Think about it, Starcraft requires masses of time, but you continue to strive to become that much better. In WoW people don't play so they waste time. Sure you may not see HUGE differences in leveling and such. But you sure can tell a top notch PvP player from a novice, or even a good player for that matter.

In no way am I insinuating WoW takes more skill than SC. But what I am saying is that the PvP scene is a combination of teamwork and skill. PvP and Raiding is what keeps WoW going.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44195 Posts
April 23 2009 22:59 GMT
#29
I've never spoken to any WoW player who wasn't the best on their server. You guys need some icc equivalent, atm you're all like "best Terran on East".
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Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
April 23 2009 23:02 GMT
#30
Being good at WoW is like being the best Terran on East, atleast the same bragging power equivalent.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 23 2009 23:12 GMT
#31
On April 24 2009 07:59 Kwark wrote:
I've never spoken to any WoW player who wasn't the best on their server. You guys need some icc equivalent, atm you're all like "best Terran on East".



There are global guild rankings, and for classes like tanks at least, there is a rough "if you are in the top 200 guild worldwide, you are probably good enough tank for any other guild below that rank", since if you can't tank, then your guild's not going to get anywhere, and thus you would have been replaced by then. For dps and such there are no such rankings, mostly because if you are half competent and your gear is good, your dps is probably as good as the dps in the best guilds. The dps rotations are painfully simple.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
April 23 2009 23:20 GMT
#32
On April 24 2009 08:12 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2009 07:59 Kwark wrote:
I've never spoken to any WoW player who wasn't the best on their server. You guys need some icc equivalent, atm you're all like "best Terran on East".



There are global guild rankings, and for classes like tanks at least, there is a rough "if you are in the top 200 guild worldwide, you are probably good enough tank for any other guild below that rank", since if you can't tank, then your guild's not going to get anywhere, and thus you would have been replaced by then. For dps and such there are no such rankings, mostly because if you are half competent and your gear is good, your dps is probably as good as the dps in the best guilds. The dps rotations are painfully simple.


I think healers can be ranked as well because they're hugely about mana efficiency. I've seen retards with T7.5 gear and ilvl 213 gear overhealing to no end and then there's the guy who you never actually see casting a healing spell but somehow keeping you up. ;p

BTW, how are tanks ranked anyway? If you have a brain you can hold threat as well as the next guy as long as you have equivalent gear.
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TS-Rupbar
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Sweden1089 Posts
April 23 2009 23:39 GMT
#33
There was no one thinking about mana when healing in Lich King. As a priest, I gave up on stacking spirit and went for pure crit. With iLevel 200, I had over 30% crit with talents. It was insane. I'd just go circle of healing, get instant flash heal for free and then repeat. Only Malygos and Sapphiron with 2 healers needed you to preserve mana, even in heroic. I quit WoW a few months ago. Ulduar might have me coming back for another run, but I doubt it.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 24 2009 00:44 GMT
#34
On April 24 2009 08:20 Equinox_kr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2009 08:12 EtherealDeath wrote:
On April 24 2009 07:59 Kwark wrote:
I've never spoken to any WoW player who wasn't the best on their server. You guys need some icc equivalent, atm you're all like "best Terran on East".



There are global guild rankings, and for classes like tanks at least, there is a rough "if you are in the top 200 guild worldwide, you are probably good enough tank for any other guild below that rank", since if you can't tank, then your guild's not going to get anywhere, and thus you would have been replaced by then. For dps and such there are no such rankings, mostly because if you are half competent and your gear is good, your dps is probably as good as the dps in the best guilds. The dps rotations are painfully simple.


I think healers can be ranked as well because they're hugely about mana efficiency. I've seen retards with T7.5 gear and ilvl 213 gear overhealing to no end and then there's the guy who you never actually see casting a healing spell but somehow keeping you up. ;p

BTW, how are tanks ranked anyway? If you have a brain you can hold threat as well as the next guy as long as you have equivalent gear.


Tanks don't just sit there holding aggro. Take for instance back in vanilla WoW, there was a boss in BWL with 52 adds or something like that =)

Most of the time tanks have to pick stuff that is spawning, and run around depending on the mechanics of the boss, which though is simple enough, is apparently impossible for most tanks. Pretty much any tank can hold aggro in Wotlk (wasn't quite the case pre-Wrath, aggro holding could be a bitch; look at warlocks in bc >.<).
Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
April 24 2009 00:51 GMT
#35
My 3v3 team was ranked #4 at the end of season 1, #2 at best.

There was very little theory and crap involved in it, the 3 of us had played our characters for a long time, and just did stuff.
You get a feel for what you should do in every scenario to get the best out of the situation, and how to deal with stuff..you can say its a lot of theory involved, but its more like acting on instinct.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
April 24 2009 02:15 GMT
#36
Apparently I stuck a nerve.

And how could I be ignorant having played all of these games at a high level (assuming D on SC is still high level )


I'm just speaking from personal experience. If you need to rationalize the time you spend play WoW by lashing out at me by all means.

404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
April 24 2009 03:16 GMT
#37
On April 24 2009 11:15 cgrinker wrote:
Apparently I stuck a nerve.

And how could I be ignorant having played all of these games at a high level (assuming D on SC is still high level )


I'm just speaking from personal experience. If you need to rationalize the time you spend play WoW by lashing out at me by all means.


I don't play Wow. =p

And I do think you're ignorant to make a claim like that. =)
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
April 24 2009 04:03 GMT
#38
You know, it never ceases to amaze me just how unique of a fanbase Blizzard has. They are probably the only company in the world where some fans of one franchise are so die-hard that they hate, if not completely despise, other franchises and their fans. It is such a unique phenomenon.

However, I agree that it is getting VERY old. It seems like some people really want to feel superior for their preferred choice over other fans.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
April 24 2009 06:35 GMT
#39
sc > own ALL pc games
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
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