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Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
April 17 2009 06:35 GMT
#41
You can't argue with some people.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Manbear
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada306 Posts
April 17 2009 06:50 GMT
#42
you cant argue with fastest players man its retarded, i mean the only thing you could do to get them would be call them scrubs or chobos or noobs or whatever word they use back at them to piss them off until they 1v1 you and show them how bad they actually are
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
April 17 2009 07:46 GMT
#43
I play fastests when I get so frustrated at iccup for my 189359134th loss in a row that I want to punch a puppy (BW tho...not vanilla). Toss is only terribly strong in the early game...in late game, zerg is stronger, I think.

But in all seriousness...standard melee/low money is a LOT better...requires a LOT more skill...requires a LOT more thinking...stronger mechanics...just...everything.

You don't even need to micro in fastest...you just mass up and attack move your entire 200/200 army into the enemy base...then just keep macro'ing more and more until you wear them down and win. That's 90% of fastest games...and honestly, the best fastest players are melee/iccup players dicking around on bnet for fun.
Hello
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
April 17 2009 07:50 GMT
#44
This reminds me when I played some of my friends who wanted to have some fastest games.

I abused the hell out of darkswarm and they were like "wtf, why aren't my carriers/battlecruisers/etc. killing your stuff?".
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
April 17 2009 08:06 GMT
#45
Honestly it sounds like you were in the wrong here.

You agreed to play a game of fastest with a bunch of guys. You lost. Then you started complaining about how their race is overpowered and that you know more than they do, and given different circumstances you would have won.

And you argued to the point where you got kicked out of their room, and will have them snickering behind your back?

To them, your just a sore loser.
Blunderbore
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Lithuania23 Posts
April 17 2009 08:25 GMT
#46
what is the point of arguing with kids? you want them to think your way? leave them be and find real sc players in servers like iccup.
Fan of Termite Terran (Bogus)
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
April 17 2009 08:30 GMT
#47
I never thought that real life b.net drama could manifest itself into nerd gangs that snicker at you behind your back and make fun of you in real life
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
April 17 2009 08:33 GMT
#48
On April 17 2009 17:06 Fen wrote:
Honestly it sounds like you were in the wrong here.

You agreed to play a game of fastest with a bunch of guys. You lost. Then you started complaining about how their race is overpowered and that you know more than they do, and given different circumstances you would have won.

And you argued to the point where you got kicked out of their room, and will have them snickering behind your back?

To them, your just a sore loser.


Agreed. Also, I cringed everytime I read "ext" instead of "etc"

Losing to players and then calling them a bunch of noobs NEVER WORKS!! "He did some retarded shit and won"
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Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
April 17 2009 08:35 GMT
#49
z aint weak, just mass hatch and keep scouting..
i used 2 play fastest religiously, and z was my race.. i didnt experience any of this 'imba' u speak of.. also FFA is for tards.
"Bonjwa" is the most retarded word ever. Wtf does it even sound like.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
April 17 2009 08:37 GMT
#50
On April 17 2009 14:51 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 14:38 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Fastest players are serious people. Look, they rank their own apms

http://vilegaming.com/league.x/apm1/2
http://vilegaming.com/league.x/apm2/2
http://vilegaming.com/league.x/apm1/3
http://vilegaming.com/league.x/apm2/3

lol what the fuck that's so stupid...


Not really, the APM is probably just recorded and it's super easy to put up a table of it using some automated thing. I think it would be cool to see it for ICCUP maybe, see what the highest APM user is on the entire server (500? 600?).
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
April 17 2009 08:41 GMT
#51
i play fastest excessively and seriously, i fucking hate how everyone does pick protoss and MAKES 435636985985 CANNONS. holyyyyy shit. its so fucking annoying. with zerg you just make like fucking 3 dozen mutas and hit their main, depending on how many cannons the noob has. but god damn, vanilla + fastest?! KILL THEM NOW.
mcgriddle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States253 Posts
April 17 2009 08:43 GMT
#52
I know how you feel= I have a friend who whenever we do some ffa for fun (they are all noobs) he does nothing all game but excessively defends with cannons, then eventually loses even with his bazillion carriers. Now what bothers me is when afterward he talks about how amazing he is late game but he sucks early game.

I have learned that be a d bag... i just let him think what he wants. So my advice to you would be to simply challenge them to a more competitive style game... if they refuse then so be it. Now if they offer to play a fast money game then adapt to that style of game. Anybody who says zerg is as good in fast money is fooling themselves. But with fast money at least you can get some practice multi-tasking and macroing well ? FFA games are really luck imo... Everybody always rushes me because they know Im the best player. Yes I get mad.... no I shouldn't - because it is the best strategy for them.
Reason obeys itself....and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
April 17 2009 08:43 GMT
#53
oh and people actually fucking ask me to 1v1 fastest. i barely even 2v2 on fastest why would i 1v1 there? and i actually told them to play python or something and guess what?

python:

boring
overused
too little minerals
too slow
cliffs are imbalanced

etc etc.
mcgriddle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States253 Posts
April 17 2009 08:54 GMT
#54
iccup hunters? :D nah but seriously if you can get a 1v1 I think you should do a really creative cheese. To me... the reason I hate fast mineral games are because THEY are too slow. People end up turtling and yea protoss are overpowered.
Reason obeys itself....and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 09:26:10
April 17 2009 09:23 GMT
#55
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 17 2009 09:41 GMT
#56
oh i used to play vgt
there's a fairly competitive league in fastest
it just uses a different skill set then low money; there's not really any point in arguing which one is better
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
April 17 2009 09:46 GMT
#57
On April 17 2009 17:33 EscPlan9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 17:06 Fen wrote:
Honestly it sounds like you were in the wrong here.

You agreed to play a game of fastest with a bunch of guys. You lost. Then you started complaining about how their race is overpowered and that you know more than they do, and given different circumstances you would have won.

And you argued to the point where you got kicked out of their room, and will have them snickering behind your back?

To them, your just a sore loser.


Agreed. Also, I cringed everytime I read "ext" instead of "etc"

Losing to players and then calling them a bunch of noobs NEVER WORKS!! "He did some retarded shit and won"


yeah you have to beat them at their own game before you trash talk =]
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 09:47:53
April 17 2009 09:47 GMT
#58
As someone has already said, show them the real progaming scene. Tell them it's almost like a sport and that it's huge in Korea. Show them some FPVODS so they get the idea of what "fast" means, and finally tell them that probably none of those professional players have played in a fastest map in years.
Freedom is a stranger
Manbear
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada306 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 10:01:22
April 17 2009 09:59 GMT
#59
the funny thing about the fastest players calling regular maps "slow" is that if you were to put the majority of them in a 2-3 base game on a normal map they have an almost impossible time simply keeping up with resources much less countering any harass or aggressive army movements on the map
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 10:04:11
April 17 2009 10:01 GMT
#60
On April 17 2009 17:43 Raithed wrote:
oh and people actually fucking ask me to 1v1 fastest. i barely even 2v2 on fastest why would i 1v1 there? and i actually told them to play python or something and guess what?

python:

boring
overused
too little minerals
too slow
cliffs are imbalanced

etc etc.


I really fail to see your point. They like fastest, and they don't like aspects of low money. If you played fastest only, I'm sure you wouldn't like waiting to make a pylon at 8 and a gate at 10 rather than at like 6 and 9 or whatever the fuck it is on FPM.

Let noobs have their fun. It's a game. Also, why the fuck would you find it surprising to get people asking you to 1v1 on FPM if by your own admission you play FPM "excessively?" Did you use the wrong word?

On April 17 2009 18:59 Manbear wrote:
the funny thing about the fastest players calling regular maps "slow" is that if you were to put the majority of them in a 2-3 base game on a normal map they have an almost impossible time simply keeping up with resources much less countering any harass or aggressive army movements on the map


Well I can tell from your previous post about how "FPM players are retarded" you are probably one of those fools who has this elite superiority complex regarding the fact that you don't play money maps, but what you've posted here is really stupid and shows your complete misunderstanding of what makes low money and FPM different. The situation you've just listed is almost no different from FPM. It's just macroing. It's getting to the point of having 2-3 bases that's the difficult part, not being plopped into a game with 3 mining bases and 8 gateways already.
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