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On April 17 2009 19:01 NoobsOfWrath wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2009 17:43 Raithed wrote:
oh and people actually fucking ask me to 1v1 fastest. i barely even 2v2 on fastest why would i 1v1 there? and i actually told them to play python or something and guess what?
python:
boring
overused
too little minerals
too slow
cliffs are imbalanced
etc etc. I really fail to see your point. They like fastest, and they don't like aspects of low money. If you played fastest only, I'm sure you wouldn't like waiting to make a pylon at 8 and a gate at 10 rather than at like 6 and 9 or whatever the fuck it is on FPM. Let noobs have their fun. It's a game. Also, why the fuck would you find it surprising to get people asking you to 1v1 on FPM if by your own admission you play FPM "excessively?" Did you use the wrong word? Show nested quote +On April 17 2009 18:59 Manbear wrote:
the funny thing about the fastest players calling regular maps "slow" is that if you were to put the majority of them in a 2-3 base game on a normal map they have an almost impossible time simply keeping up with resources much less countering any harass or aggressive army movements on the map Well I can tell from your previous post about how "FPM players are retarded" you are probably one of those fools who has this elite superiority complex regarding the fact that you don't play money maps, but what you've posted here is really stupid and shows your complete misunderstanding of what makes low money and FPM different. The situation you've just listed is almost no different from FPM. It's just macroing. It's getting to the point of having 2-3 bases that's the difficult part, not being plopped into a game with 3 mining bases and 8 gateways already.
i was just kinda saying those points to the wind but i guess if your for some reason in the mood for arguing il attempt im not very good though 
where did i say "FMP players are retarded" i believe it was "you cant argue with fastest players man its retarded," ITS IT IS.. sorry if i was being to general i meant that arguing with the majority of them leads to a situation described by the op, im sorry if you misunderstood but i said the majority im not knocking every single fastest player on the planet and i have played it i used to allot with some friends before i started playing on real maps i find it to be an ok waste of time when im not really in the mood to expand or do harass or things of that nature, the ones i was talking about and the ones i was thinking of are the kind that simply state the things they do blindly such as the ones who say "BW is imba becuz of stealth unitz like DTz and lurkerz" and i have a friend who does that actually lol
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Please don't tell me that I am raging or "rage much." I think you'll find that the weakest arguments tend to be the ones wherein you tell the other person what they're thinking. You're right, I misremembered what you said, however the point I made still stands in my mind: the situation you outlined is not that different. It's just macroing. The part of low money that differs from FPM is the whole process of getting to that 3-4 base point. Timing attacks, strategic decisions, economic decisions, precise BOs, experience, scouting, etc etc.
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I retract my "rage much" statement you make a good point and that was uncalled for, and you are right about the situation i was describing being basically macro like fastest
On April 17 2009 19:22 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
the situation you outlined is not that different. It's just macroing. The part of low money that differs from FPM is the whole process of getting to that 3-4 base point. Timing attacks, strategic decisions, economic decisions, precise BOs, experience, scouting, etc etc.
but the bottom part is more what i was getting at i miss worded myself and got all fucked up i was basically trying to say that most of the friends i have who play fastest and then attempt to go to normal maps have trouble with keeping up with the "Timing attacks, strategic decisions, economic decisions, precise BOs, experience, scouting, etc etc" in a normal game and theirs to much going on for them to really keep up, i think i just used resources as a way to say they would be falling behind... my poor grammar and word choices just fails
EDIT :and my punctuation i got like commas everywhere but not one period lol
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if you treat fastest like a ums, then it might be different. and probably you have to beat them before they'll understand
and if they dont, you have TL
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its time to let your fists do the talking, the time for diplomacy has ended
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10387 Posts
destroy them in their own game in their own terms. Have them play the "imba" zerg in BW and you whatever they want you to play. That's pretty much all you can do
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I would try that but i don't think that they would play me. Perhaps if i could just get one of them to play me 1v1 fastest. There is one kid who still talks to me, perhaps i could get lucky and get him to play me.
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On April 18 2009 00:17 hugitout wrote:
its time to let your fists do the talking, the time for diplomacy has ended
name/post irony here is great, haha
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like many others have said, you weren't very convincing.
you lose, call their race imba and say what you do takes more skill.
that's like the definition of a scrub.
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I have the same problem but i didnt get into it with the people. So me and my roomate play on the dorms LAN when we 1v1 because its best. One day we make a game and some dumbass named "Lord Evan" joins... Basically we are like holy shit someone else plays sc besides us?, hell yea! little did we know thye were the worst players ever. So we never played with them again despite them living in our dorm lol. Fuckin nubs.
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Sounds like they are a bunch of retards that are not worth to be friends with. Just ignore them or w/e
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There is no reason to argue with them. If you like them or enjoy playing with them go ahead. Maintain that they are retards for liking fastest, but don't make a big deal out of it. It's not that big of a fucking deal.
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Poll: Fastest players are the religious people of Starcraft
(Vote): True
(Vote): False
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Braavos36401 Posts
sure they are wrong about low money taking less skill than fastest, but other than that it seems like you just suck at fastest. both types of games require a certain skillset. while normal maps have a higher skill ceiling and more skill differentiation, money maps still require knowledge of strategy and macro execution to win.
look at it from their perspective, if someone played you on low and lost and then complained about imbalance and how low money was newbie, you would react the exact same way as they did. you can't possibly expect them to just accept your post-loss whining. beat them at fastest then talk. if you're so much better than they are at BW it should be easy right?
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Lol just beat them at fastest, it is so easy. Just do 1v1s instead of FFA.
Speedlot runover with obs usually beats any tech unless they cannoned like crazy.
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On April 18 2009 04:29 Hot_Bid wrote:
sure they are wrong about low money taking less skill than fastest, but other than that it seems like you just suck at fastest. both types of games require a certain skillset. while normal maps have a higher skill ceiling and more skill differentiation, money maps still require knowledge of strategy and macro execution to win.
look at it from their perspective, if someone played you on low and lost and then complained about imbalance and how low money was newbie, you would react the exact same way as they did. you can't possibly expect them to just accept your post-loss whining. beat them at fastest then talk. if you're so much better than they are at BW it should be easy right?
exactly
and for the record i highly doubt any low money players to beat a seasoned fastest player
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Well you got 2v1'ed it seems, challenge for a 1v1 fair fight. FFA is just silly if you're trying to do a comparison.
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
Dude... they are probably just making fun of you and giving you a hard time because you're that kid who takes things way too seriously. They are all hanging out in a dorm fucking around having fun on fastest FFA's, and you come in and try and tell them they are doing it wrong and should play like you or they suck. On top of that you tell them after you lose, so you just look and sound like a dick.
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On April 18 2009 07:30 Snet wrote:
Dude... they are probably just making fun of you and giving you a hard time because you're that kid who takes things way too seriously. They are all hanging out in a dorm fucking around having fun on fastest FFA's, and you come in and try and tell them they are doing it wrong and should play like you or they suck. On top of that you tell them after you lose, so you just look and sound like a dick.
This seems like a pretty accurate description seeing OP's post and the need to post something like this.
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On April 18 2009 07:32 Shivaz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2009 07:30 Snet wrote:
Dude... they are probably just making fun of you and giving you a hard time because you're that kid who takes things way too seriously. They are all hanging out in a dorm fucking around having fun on fastest FFA's, and you come in and try and tell them they are doing it wrong and should play like you or they suck. On top of that you tell them after you lose, so you just look and sound like a dick. This seems like a pretty accurate description seeing OP's post and the need to post something like this.
Agreed. Try not to take games with friends seriously. At least if you are not playing in leagues or as a competitive team.
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