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Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
April 17 2009 04:56 GMT
#21
People like them will never be convinced by anything but results. Learn how to actually play Fastest and beat them. If they think Protoss isn't overpowered in FMP then ask them to play against you 1v1 with any race besides P while you use P yourself. If they think Low Money is for noobs then you need to beat them at both Fastest and Low Money to prove your point.

If you're getting owned by them in Fastest of course they won't respect anything you say, you just come off as having a big mouth with nothing to back it up.

I do this kind of thing regularly. Any time someone tells me a race, character, weapon, whatever is overpowered and I believe it isn't I tell them to use it against me and I'll beat them. Did this tons at Soul Calibur 2 tournaments. Let them pick whatever character they want me to use and let them use my character, then rape them anyway.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 05:02:52
April 17 2009 05:01 GMT
#22
On April 17 2009 13:33 Misrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 13:30 Zozma wrote:
So, basically, Fastest players feel the same way about us that we do about them?


No. What Sc has a multi million dollar turny scene around the world? wait............Is that the scrub fest 'low money.?'

FASTEST = NOOBS
Key word = feel.

There was that one Stork VOD of playing fastest 2v2. He and his partner just kinda screwed around all game and won in the end anyway, even though Stork lost his main nexus.
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
April 17 2009 05:04 GMT
#23
why not show them and FPVOD of a progamer? Maybe then they'll understand it better *from the being fast point of view*
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
azndng
Profile Joined July 2004
United States344 Posts
April 17 2009 05:08 GMT
#24
one time, i 1v1'd a "good" fmp player and bunker rushed his nexus! then he said, "oh wait, you're a low money player...you guys rush." lol.

but back on point...i do believe zerg does become "better" at a certain point of the game. Once zerg has 10-20 hatches, he can just select the larva and spawn much quicker than a toss with 20-40 gates (hotkeying and manually selecting gates). And then attack move. It happened to me a few times.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
April 17 2009 05:12 GMT
#25
Tell them to read this thread and they will realize how fucking utterly nooby they are.

Honestly though, if they are complete assholes like that, I wouldn't associate w/them or just try to not to hang out with them. No point in associating with idiots -.-
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
April 17 2009 05:19 GMT
#26
Zergs can die on fastest? What? Dark swarm + 20 lurkers on choke + 30 hatchery pump = ???????

On a serious note, I say you challenge them to a handicap match of 1v3 where they are zergs and you are protoss. If you know what you are doing and they are as bad as you claim they are, you should be able to pulverize them easily. They should be complaining "wtf templar drop imba protoss is rigged" after u beat the shit out of them.

Ya just explain how templar drops are rigged and they will understand.
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
April 17 2009 05:20 GMT
#27
That is the thing- It was an FFA. I didn't lose to them per say. I was just screwing around and well ya.

About getting kicked out of their room- they were the ones that went nuts on me. NOt the other way around.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
April 17 2009 05:20 GMT
#28
Fuck. I would have taken you more seriously and read the rest of the OP if you had used ETC. instead of that crap 'ext'
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
April 17 2009 05:22 GMT
#29
Also it was SC vanilla. SCBW is 'imba' as far as fastest goes, i should 1v1 them. That would be good. I could easily raep them easily.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
April 17 2009 05:34 GMT
#30
On April 17 2009 14:20 Cloud wrote:
Fuck. I would have taken you more seriously and read the rest of the OP if you had used ETC. instead of that crap 'ext'

lol for sure. it's ETC man
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
April 17 2009 05:37 GMT
#31
Don't even talk to them. I'm sure ur not super geeky like them. EZ way to kill uber geeks = go to parties and totally forget about them.

Plus, talking to them is like talking to some damn freshman...pointless, hopeless, and very painful.
im deaf
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
April 17 2009 05:38 GMT
#32
Fastest players are serious people. Look, they rank their own apms

http://vilegaming.com/league.x/apm1/2
http://vilegaming.com/league.x/apm2/2
http://vilegaming.com/league.x/apm1/3
http://vilegaming.com/league.x/apm2/3
coolcrimefighter
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States378 Posts
April 17 2009 05:45 GMT
#33
well at least the fastest noobs i know irl acknowledge that low money is more skilled than fastest.

the main difference is that we can beat them at their game but they have no chance against us.

after learning a few concepts in fastest i beat my friend easily on fastest
then i played 3 games on low money and i gave him vision of me and he still lost all 3 games :/
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
April 17 2009 05:51 GMT
#34
On April 17 2009 14:38 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Fastest players are serious people. Look, they rank their own apms

http://vilegaming.com/league.x/apm1/2
http://vilegaming.com/league.x/apm2/2
http://vilegaming.com/league.x/apm1/3
http://vilegaming.com/league.x/apm2/3

lol what the fuck that's so stupid...
Oh no
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7474 Posts
April 17 2009 05:54 GMT
#35
On April 17 2009 14:45 coolcrimefighter wrote:
well at least the fastest noobs i know irl acknowledge that low money is more skilled than fastest.

the main difference is that we can beat them at their game but they have no chance against us.

after learning a few concepts in fastest i beat my friend easily on fastest
then i played 3 games on low money and i gave him vision of me and he still lost all 3 games :/



Actually top 1:1 bgh and fastest players will rock C+/B- low money players.

This debate has already been had. There are some guys that are really really good at fastest and bgh.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 17 2009 05:57 GMT
#36
On April 17 2009 14:54 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 14:45 coolcrimefighter wrote:
well at least the fastest noobs i know irl acknowledge that low money is more skilled than fastest.

the main difference is that we can beat them at their game but they have no chance against us.

after learning a few concepts in fastest i beat my friend easily on fastest
then i played 3 games on low money and i gave him vision of me and he still lost all 3 games :/



Actually top 1:1 bgh and fastest players will rock C+/B- low money players.

This debate has already been had. There are some guys that are really really good at fastest and bgh.

That may be true but these fastest players aren't nearly good, even for fastest.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
April 17 2009 05:57 GMT
#37
I have been arguing with a retard friend of mine. Basically is argument is that he wants to be able to change starcraft shortcuts and he doesn't even know half of them. He thinks that it will bring more potential to the game and doesn't listen to common sense
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 17 2009 06:10 GMT
#38
On April 17 2009 14:54 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 14:45 coolcrimefighter wrote:
well at least the fastest noobs i know irl acknowledge that low money is more skilled than fastest.

the main difference is that we can beat them at their game but they have no chance against us.

after learning a few concepts in fastest i beat my friend easily on fastest
then i played 3 games on low money and i gave him vision of me and he still lost all 3 games :/



Actually top 1:1 bgh and fastest players will rock C+/B- low money players.

This debate has already been had. There are some guys that are really really good at fastest and bgh.


in addendum to that, it's definitely possible to be a savage fastest player with 60 apm.



There are fastest players I will never lose to on any map, and then there are fastest players I will never ever beat on fastest. it depends on what your friends are capable of. if you could actually beat them on fastest they might be more inclined to listen to you
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Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 06:27:26
April 17 2009 06:26 GMT
#39
On April 17 2009 13:40 Arrian wrote:
They seriously don't believe that Protoss is imba in fastest...yet they all play Protoss? From my experience back when I played fastest like two years ago, about half the players in pubbies play toss. Half.

uhh.. i'm guessing you haven't played low money (edit: on b.net) in the past year or two.. its about the same ratio of protoss users to other races.

The fact that low level players are all protoss doesnt really mean anything. Who knows, maybe if fastest evolved to high level gameplay, any of the races could dominate.. no way to tell since it hasnt happened
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SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
April 17 2009 06:34 GMT
#40
I'd say the cure that worked most for me was introducing them to pro games. 2/3 of the people I know converted to low money before releasing how hard it was before quitting melee games for ums
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