• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:56
CEST 05:56
KST 12:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)1Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over2New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!37Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) 2026 GSTL Announcement PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! ASL22 General Discussion XUN appreciation thread BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: Calm's Big Brain Play Vs Mini
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group F BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6859 users

Arguing with a fastest player

Blogs > Misrah
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
April 17 2009 04:27 GMT
#1
So. I live in the dorms at my school (have to up until junior year.) And there are some kids on my floor that play Starcraft. But only vanilla SC because BW is imba 9acording to them). lol So today they let me join up in their fastest games. Now i have played exactly 1 game of "low money" with them. I can never get them to play again because its so boring. And slow they say. I can raise a child before this game is over ext ext ext.....

So today they are come up to me and ask me to join a fastest FFA with them. So i join up and holy shit i want to shoot myself.

The game is retarded. Everyone is protoss, and i am the only zerg. Well as you probably guess because this is an FFA- everyone tries to make 154145 photon cannons ext. Basically we are talking about 60 apm noobs here.

So I end up losing the game, and really i could care less. I mean when 2 protoss players come at me, what are you going to do? I don't have lurkers, no ultralisk upgrades, and basically because of the small chokes i get stormed to death, and then choned to death. It was great.

So after the game, we all end up gathering in this kids room. I am sitting there saying gg, and trying to explain to them why we should be playing low money, why 'fast money' is really imba (because protoss are gods) and this 60apm noob starts mouthing off to me.

I quote: Ben you are a fucking retard. You don't know anything about starcraft. You play the slow way, I play the fast way. The fast way is better, no race is better than the other, and a 200supply protoss army is worse than a 200zerg army.

Basically i end up getting kicked out of their room. All because i am arguing 2 points.

1. Protoss are best at fastest.
2. I know more about starcraft than you.

They were basically trying to convince me that zerg beats protoss because zerg can 'pump units out faster' I gave them the your an idiot look, and proceeded to argue my point. I told them that it is pointless, because with infinate money, protoss can have a ton of gates up- and really the whole 'pumping units' argument is completely null and void.

Things spiraled quickly downhill from there. It just seems like you cannot have any type of logical conversation with these kids. their way is 'superior' and you are just a scrubby 'slow money' player to them. Nothing you can say or do is going to change that. So basically i now have 4 angry stuck up nerds snickering behind my back every time i walk by.

I really am getting upset about this because, i could physically murder any of those kids with out a second thought. (I doubt that any of them have ever seen a free weight in their life.)

Really? I couldn't believe that these noobs somehow think that they are almighty starcraft gods. I have officially gotten tired of this shit! How can you possibly think that starcraft should be played fastest style? WTF? And somehow think, that a kid who spends hours and hours playing SC perfecting timings,apm, BO's understands the game less than you? wtf? I couldn't stand these kids. They were logic retards, and really it seemed like nothing i could say god past their fucking long hair, pimply face skulls.


/rant

***
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
April 17 2009 04:30 GMT
#2
So, basically, Fastest players feel the same way about us that we do about them?
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
April 17 2009 04:32 GMT
#3
At least you know people who play sc. T.T All my wow friends laugh at me when I mention sc.
"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."-William Faulkner *_*_*_Kolll FAN_*_*_*
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
April 17 2009 04:33 GMT
#4
On April 17 2009 13:30 Zozma wrote:
So, basically, Fastest players feel the same way about us that we do about them?


No. What Sc has a multi million dollar turny scene around the world? wait............Is that the scrub fest 'low money.?'

FASTEST = NOOBS
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 17 2009 04:33 GMT
#5
Ignorance is bliss.

Deal with it, they don't want to change their mind. You obviously know you are right and that's why you are on TL in the first place. Let noobs be noobs.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Bond(i2)
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada926 Posts
April 17 2009 04:34 GMT
#6
sounds like you suck at fastest. Maybe u should practice fastest for 1 day then come own them all, maybe that will get your point across as to how much more superior low players are.
roses are red violets are blue, Im schitzophrenic and so am i
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
April 17 2009 04:34 GMT
#7
just beat them and they'll shut up
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
April 17 2009 04:36 GMT
#8
On April 17 2009 13:34 LeoTheLion wrote:
just beat them and they'll shut up


I raepd them in 'low scrub money'

None of them will play me 1v1 fastest-

T
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
April 17 2009 04:40 GMT
#9
They seriously don't believe that Protoss is imba in fastest...yet they all play Protoss? From my experience back when I played fastest like two years ago, about half the players in pubbies play toss. Half.
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
April 17 2009 04:42 GMT
#10
why would you ever argue with people about sc to the point of getting kicked out of their room?
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
April 17 2009 04:42 GMT
#11
answer: you're an ass
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
April 17 2009 04:42 GMT
#12
I feel sorry for you. The only other SC players i know are mature, and they are not this stupid. Well, hey, if push comes to shove, just beat them up! ^^
U Gotta Skate.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
April 17 2009 04:43 GMT
#13
doesn't help that toss have units that easily kill the stacked workers :3
Hates Fun🤔
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
April 17 2009 04:44 GMT
#14
oh man what college nerds.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
April 17 2009 04:45 GMT
#15
How could a low money player lose in fastest? If they are really 60apm noobs, you should have no problem owning them in fastest.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 04:48:47
April 17 2009 04:48 GMT
#16
On April 17 2009 13:43 paper wrote:
doesn't help that toss have units that easily kill the stacked workers :3

All races do(only Terran and Protoss in expansion though).
Protoss: Storm, Reavers.
Terran: Firebats, Siege Tanks, Nukes, and splash damage from mines(if a unit triggers the mine).
All you really have to do is put like 4-6 turrets/cannons/spores on both sides of your base then just macro and abuse ranged units for cannons and kills their workers if they are too stupid to protect them properly.

But he does play Zerg and there aren't lurkers so I either recommend fast guardian tech or just play Terran.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
April 17 2009 04:49 GMT
#17
--- Nuked ---
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7584 Posts
April 17 2009 04:50 GMT
#18
I had the same argument when I was about 15 (2000) with a few kids in my freshman class.

I took 3 v 1 on bgh, 3 protoss vs 1. The game lasted 1 hour and 30 minutes before they got the point. I was able to hold them off indefinately with arbitors/templar/mindcontrol/cannons/reavers/scouts.

It would have been better to prove your point with superior skill in their arena then bash it.

That is how I converted all the 'low money' haters.

there was a time I refused to play bw because I thought lurkers/dt/sairs and all of them were terribly imbalanced. Evolution in starcraft thinking takes time.

Ask skew[media] how long it took me to drag him from ladder challenges to bw.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
April 17 2009 04:51 GMT
#19
^ I agree with T.O.P. If they were bad and were massing cannons you could have simply rushed to hive and massed ultralingdefiler. I think you should practice some fastest just so you can beat them.
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 04:57:44
April 17 2009 04:56 GMT
#20
What you should of done was not choose zerg knowing that it is weak on fastest and beat them using another race and then rub it in. Losing after you tell them fastest is for newbs just screwed over you're credibility.
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft495
ProTech135
EnDerr 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2663
GuemChi 1782
Noble 36
ajuk12(nOOB) 20
Dota 2
monkeys_forever548
NeuroSwarm192
League of Legends
JimRising 807
Counter-Strike
taco 399
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King76
Other Games
summit1g5405
Coldzera 1161
PiGStarcraft257
Livibee127
Maynarde105
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 38
• Azhi_Dahaki6
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1102
• Stunt273
Other Games
• Scarra1057
Upcoming Events
GSL
7h 4m
OSC
9h 4m
PiGosaur Cup
20h 4m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
The PondCast
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
OSC
5 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
RSL Revival: Season 6
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.