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United States894 Posts
Okay, so I have some spare time and some spare cash on my hands, and after reading about all the hype of building a new computer all over TL.net, I thought about building a new computer.
Anyways, I went on Newegg, and here is the stuff I am looking to get.
1. 2x Lite-On 22x DVD+-R DVD Burner; $41.98 Total
2. Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case; $159.99
3. 2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1TB 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $199.98 Total
4. Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Read; $119.99
5. G.Skill 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Triple Channel; $99.99
6. Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor; $288.99
7. MSI X58 Platinum SLI LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Motherboard + MSI R4850-512M OC Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express Combo; $364.98
8. Another MSI R4850-512M OC Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express; $149.99
In total (plus some $6.99 worth of Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound) - $1,432.88
Basically, I would like to know:
1. If there are any parts that I should swap for something else, and why.
2. If this thing will even work as it stands, I haven't kept up with computers much lately and not up to date on the latest tech.
3. Would this be a worthwhile system?
Other information:
1. I will be using this mostly for gaming. I know it will be overkill because I don't play Crysis or do any rendering, but I would like it to run any games I could possibly play fairly decent.
2. I chose to get two DVD burners because it's always been a pain in the ass to have just one.
3. This is for my personal use, but I'm thinking that if this computer is a success, I might build one for my little brother for his birthday that is coming up and another for my dad for father's day. I'm not too worried about how much it will cost, but obviously, I don't want to waste money where I don't have too (i.e. I think the powersupply is a little overkill).
4. I want to use this system partially as a "home-server" where it will stay open all the time, hooked up to a huge monitor(s) (which I still have to look for). As such, it will need for me to be able to remote into it, run surveillance equipment, and other entertainment systems (particularly, to record TV shows and such).
5. Like I said, I'm not too keen on this computer stuff anymore, and I'm pretty sure there are alot of stuff I have left out. Maybe, this system should be vastly more powerful for all I want to do. I don't know. I was hoping TL.net could help me out a bit here.
Edit: And oh by the way, I was also wondering about the case. I chose that case because Newegg suggested it. If I could, I would like to pick a case that had the following specs, in order of importance:
1. Obviously, ability to fit everything I put want to inside, as listed above.
2. Mobility - maybe like one of those cases with a handle on it.
3. Obviously, to keep everything working and not overheat.
4. If possible, have all the other cool little things like LCD screens and what-not.
 
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3. 2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1TB 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $199.98 Total
Bad bad bad... firmware issues.. avoid it like a plague. google it and you know what i mean.
Find a WD equivalent.
Don't get crap like LCD on a case. Find something that's spacious.
Is that corsair PSU modular?
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United States894 Posts
Thanks for the info on the Seagate Barracuda.
So I guess the "mobility" thing is out for the case, eh. If I want it to be spacious, that is.
No that PSU is non-modular.
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modular PSU are more expensive but easier to use for cable management.
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you can still get something that has a handle. some of the antec models have them but i don't like them because they are ugly 
you might want to chuck in an aftermarket cooler and replace all the screws with anti vibration ones to make it quieter - seems like you want to run this 24/7
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hmm sounds good enough. My friend wanted something similiar like this for the same price so.....
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check out some of the lian-li cases. they look mad!
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On March 15 2009 23:10 haduken wrote:
check out some of the lian-li cases. they look mad!
thats true
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A lot of this seems wasteful
Quad core is useless for gaming. Unless you are into heavy duty video editing, encoding, etc, save yourself the money and get a dual core.
I don't know why you'd want 2 optical drives but thats up to you.
SLIing two mid range cards is kind of defeating the purpose, and the purpose is wasteful to begin with. SLI only really helps in obscene resolutions, like 2560*1650 and beyond. You'd be way better off with one 4870 or gtx260. It's less money now and you'll feel less wasteful when you upgrade. You can also shave off a lot of money on the ps by getting a solid 450-500 watt and maybe a cheaper motherboard too if you looked for features more in line with what you want. For instance when upgrading, it's almost always more bang for your buck to just get a newer card than it is to try to SLI with your current one.
also ddr3 isnt worth it yet. low latency ddr2 outerperforms/ is equal to current dd3 offerings for less than half the price
Get a less expensive case, like the sonata or three hundred
You could probably get a pc that performs equally in games for less than 1k. Probably around 800-900
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Is it too late to try and convince you to back out of building your own computer?
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On March 16 2009 00:31 fearus wrote:
Is it too late to try and convince you to back out of building your own computer?
Yea, saving money while getting better performance and possibly enjoying it in the process is a terrible idea!
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you cant go wrong with this 3 things
1. get quad core. dual core are obsolete and quad cores arent that expensive
2 .get at least 4gb ram. you need more ram to run vista and games smoothly. and they arent expensive. dont try to save on this one.
3. don't go for dual graphic cards sli or crossfire. get a single powerful card. less trouble less bugs. TRUST ME IVE BEEN THERE. the performance aren't that great with dual cards.
and there you have your perfect gaming rig.
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dual core isn't obsolete. of all the games that support quad core absolutely none of them will post significant performance gains over 2 cores, that doesn't justify paying 1.5x-2x the price for a processor if you are gaming.
And if you think buying a quadcore will future proof you, ask the people who had dual core 3500 athlons if they were at all future proof. By the time quad cores are fully supported and utilized your cpu will be garbage anyway. That's the reality of the PC hardware market, new hardware that is of little benefit to you is over priced and you should never consider it from a price/performance standpoint. If you are rich these rules don't apply to you though
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On March 16 2009 02:44 floor exercise wrote:
dual core isn't obsolete. of all the games that support quad core absolutely none of them will post significant performance gains over 2 cores, that doesn't justify paying 1.5x-2x the price for a processor if you are gaming.
And if you think buying a quadcore will future proof you, ask the people who had dual core 3500 athlons if they were at all future proof. By the time quad cores are fully supported and utilized your cpu will be garbage anyway. That's the reality of the PC hardware market, new hardware that is of little benefit to you is over priced and you should never consider it from a price/performance standpoint. If you are rich these rules don't apply to you though
quad cores are not expensive at all and is well worth the price.
i recommend everyone to get an AMD phenom quad core. they are great im currently using a phenom 9600 quad core 2.3ghz oc to 2.5 ghz (got it in 2008 january still peforming great) . the latest phenom II are definitely a beast.
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actually yeah price/performance the phenom IIs are pretty good I was mostly talking about the core 2 quads
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Lately i can't say MSI quality for mobo's is up to snuff i would stick to ASUS and Gigabyte
Imo a 520HX series, best quality psu are always the best never have to worry, from corsair and just use a GTX285 or just wait for ATI new single gpu 4890 to hit the market alot less trouble and power consumption for single gpu set up also generally more reliable in frame rates. Problem with dual tri quad gpu set up is their fps is more dependt on the driver and min frame rates are usually a lot lower so there is chances of micro stuttering.
Seagate's AS series can't be trusted maybe their 7200.12 but due to firmware scares it's not recommended for those who don't baby their machines i hate to recommend WD because their HDD are usually a bit slower then seagate's due to WD drives have a poor random seek time but this is just like 3 secs slower on a long random read nothing to really fret over.
You want to move it around with a full atx case which is like a box of bricks have fun with that just secure everything down tight and be gentle.
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single video card, cheaper case, amd phenom ii thx
btw there shouldnt be any problems with the seagate drives, i believe the firmware fixes have already been release so it shouldn't be a problem.
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On March 16 2009 07:27 IzzyCraft wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2009 07:08 mahnini wrote:
single video card, cheaper case, amd phenom ii thx
btw there shouldnt be any problems with the seagate drives, i believe the firmware fixes have already been release so it shouldn't be a problem. Phenom ii is for 2 types of people, either those who just want to use it for gaming and most for their money basically cutting coners. Or AMD fan boys. Phe ii beats is on par ever so slightly with i7 in gaming but every where else they get their ass spanked by the i7 series, basically amd tried to regain ground with their gaming fans who been violated by years of intel raping amd in gaming cpu. Cheaper case is bull shit I've always had great cases and when i sold the systems i just bought a crappy case and put the system in there and sold it. Great cases help with noise and vibration also with work space or air flow
you can get the antec 300 which is the basically same thing, maybe a tiny bit smaller and less flamboyant.
phenom ii gives you midrange quad performance like core 2 q9400 - q9550 for dual core prices. nothing on the market can compare to the core i7 making such a comparison makes no sense especially seeing as how building a phenom ii system would probably be around 500$ less
forgot to add LOL INTEL FANBOY
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True although i believe the price diff is closer to 350-500 depending what he buys. But for his budget of apparently 1500 i7 would be the best fit imo seeing as he doesn't need monitor or os a good i7 build is very possible.
Hey intel hasn't betrayed me in performance and oc ability although i7 was a bit odd. Also how can you say intel fan boy is bad that's like saying haha your the best.
My known bais is to
Intel
Nvidia (Hey they have the most powerful single gpu i hate dual gpu i love single gpu)
Asus mobo's (in terms of quality it's asus vs gigabyte for the whole package deal of getting extra stuff at great quality on your mobo)
Seagate HDD's
Pc Power and Cooling psu (hey can't beat the best!)
Xigmatek/OCZ for quad core cpu coolers (They just have 1 great cooler between them HDT typed which im always afraid ill warp when putting together)
Zalman for dual core cpu coolers
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