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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
On March 08 2009 14:36 statix wrote: it sounds like you need to stop worrying about how fast you move around and focus more on what you actually do with your actions. well i think it's pretty much the consensus that terran demands a lot more apm and less adaption than protoss' low apm and high adaption (i think chill actually talked about this in liquibition) | ||
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
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daz
Canada643 Posts
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CapO
United States1615 Posts
On March 08 2009 15:00 3clipse wrote: And it's been said, but if you really care about winning and having it easy and you really believe that playing Protoss is the way to acheive this then you're a moron for playing Terran. But of course, you wouldn't want that feeling to be taken away from you, that you're the victim, the underdog. Any time you lose (or hell, not win quickly enough!) you can always say "well I'm playing the hardest race, noob". It's elitism and it takes away from the spirit of what is supposed to be a fun game. I play Protoss. And I lose. A lot. I don't give a shit. I'm secure in my mediocrity and just want to hang out with like minded people who enjoy playing the best rts game in the whole damn world, not people who get off on constantly complaining about how hard they have it and how much better they clearly are than everyone else. Just had to get that off my chest. i don't care if i lose to a good player. i actually enjoy both winning AND losing, but maybe im not getting my point across correctly. here's the scenario that happened after this replay, "wow, shit 26 min long game. damn, it wasn't easy" "i think i played someone decent" (starts firefox for iccup website, checks the guy's record and flag) "wtf.. barely 50% win ratio at D+, and not a korean" "okay, let me take a look at his match list, hmm,, i admit that hes played a lotta koreans." "let me check the rep on bwchat" (looks at the hotkeys and apm) "WTF... /cry" | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
Why a 130 apm protoss has to be bad ? Why ? Do you know that gurram don't even use hotkeys ? And this guy is on Swe-A -.- | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On March 08 2009 15:12 CapO wrote: i don't care if i lose to a good player. i actually enjoy both winning AND losing, but maybe im not getting my point across correctly. here's the scenario that happened after this replay, "wow, shit 26 min long game. damn, it wasn't easy" "i think i played someone decent" (starts firefox for iccup website, checks the guy's record and flag) "wtf.. barely 50% win ratio at D+, and not a korean" "okay, let me take a look at his match list, hmm,, i admit that hes played a lotta koreans." "let me check the rep on bwchat" (looks at the hotkeys and apm) "WTF... /cry" actually thats basically me. except my apm and hotkeys are pretty decent | ||
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Lurker
57 Posts
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CapO
United States1615 Posts
On March 08 2009 15:24 Boblion wrote: You are really stupid. Why a 130 apm protoss has to be bad ? Why ? Do you know that gurram don't even use hotkeys ? And this guy is on Swe-A -.- ........... please, read my post before you say something. did i play "gurram"(whom i don't know)? was this guy just as good as the swe-A guy? i think ur the stupid one. if u don't understand my scenario, idk what to say. i know im being whininy, but DO U NOT UNDERSTAND ME? | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
isn't that a little bit retarded? it's like, would you be happy if he played exact same skill level but have 200 apm and use all hotkeys? what? who cares? | ||
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Lurker
57 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On March 08 2009 15:34 JeeJee wrote: why are you judging someone on their apm and hotkey usage? isn't that a little bit retarded? it's like, would you be happy if he played exact same skill level but have 200 apm and use all hotkeys? what? who cares? Exactly what i was thinking. Jesus ... another DDR terran faping to his apm -.- | ||
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CapO
United States1615 Posts
On March 08 2009 15:34 JeeJee wrote: why are you judging someone on their apm and hotkey usage? isn't that a little bit retarded? fuck wow, if u read my "little" scenario that i posted, i analyzed the rep after i looked at his record, flag, and match list. /sigh idk what to say. LOL if it was like fisheye with low apm, i wouldn't have given a fuck, since he was good back then, but is a typical D+ protoss user with 1a2a3a tactic just as good as him? lol whats wrong with u,, please | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On March 08 2009 15:37 CapO wrote: fuck wow, if u read my "little" scenario that i posted, i analyzed the rep after i looked at his record, flag, and match list. /sigh idk what to say. LOL if it was like fisheye with low apm, i wouldn't have given a fuck, since he was good back then, but is a typical D+ protoss user with 1a2a3a tactic just as good as him? lol whats wrong with u,, please so answer my question if he played same skill leve, but 200 apm and all hotkeys, would you be satisfied with the game? if so, why? | ||
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CapO
United States1615 Posts
On March 08 2009 15:36 Boblion wrote: Exactly what i was thinking. Jesus ... another DDR terran faping to his apm -.- awesome. i try to acknowledge other ppl's perspectives as much as i can, while others blindly don't give a fuck and post. very nice. | ||
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Lurker
57 Posts
and that is really disappointing. how he can half-ass the game by just doing 1a2a3a and simple macro. it happens to me to. EDIT :capitalized only for emphasis^^;; | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On March 08 2009 15:41 Lurker wrote: but the fact is that ONLY 120 apm would suffice to contend against 200+ apm terran players. 200 apm of not really spamming that is. and that is really disappointing. how he can half-ass the game by just doing 1a2a3a and simple macro. it happens to me to. EDIT :capitalized only for emphasis^^;; where do you get off making these generalizations based off of 2 players? it's like, for some reason a 120apm protoss with 120eapm is somehow half-assing the game as opposed to a 200apm protoss with 120eapm? really? | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On March 08 2009 15:04 daz wrote: if you think its hard killing shitty protosses in tvp you should try killing shitty terrans pvt. even the worst terran player can make me waste an extra 10 min by just sitting with their natural and turtling and not gging while i have the entire map. i mean he doesnt even need 123 apm or any hotkeys all he has to do is build tanks and fuckin siege them and you will waste a good 10 min of my life. i wouldnt even bring this up except it happens all the time and its really annoying you should try out arbiters or carriers some time I hear their pretty neat On March 08 2009 15:43 JeeJee wrote: where do you get off making these generalizations based off of 2 players? it's like, for some reason a 120apm protoss with 120eapm is somehow half-assing the game as opposed to a 200apm protoss with 120eapm? really? thats not how it works on low levels its 40eapm protoss vs 100eapm terran on lower levels protoss is substantially easier than terran. We've had this discussion on TL many times, and the majority of people (even protosses) agree with it. | ||
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Lurker
57 Posts
On March 08 2009 15:44 fusionsdf wrote: you should try out arbiters or carriers some time I hear their pretty neat quite fair too, sir. as arbiters can not only cloak units, but easily stasis your army. HOW AMAZINGLY FAIR | ||
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CapO
United States1615 Posts
On March 08 2009 15:38 JeeJee wrote: so answer my question if he played same skill leve, but 200 apm and all hotkeys, would you be satisfied with the game? if so, why? if he was my level, i would be satisfied. why? because he was my level. if i played and lost against kwark, whos supposedly a really good player with low apm, i would not have minded. i'd understand that his mechanics are better than mine. u still don't get that APM is not the main topic here. | ||
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daz
Canada643 Posts
On March 08 2009 15:41 Lurker wrote: but the fact is that ONLY 120 apm can easily suffice to contend against 200+ apm terran players. 200 apm of not really spamming that is. and that is really disappointing. how he can half-ass the game by just doing 1a2a3a and simple macro. it happens to me to. EDIT :capitalized only for emphasis^^;; yeah but your forgetting that the 120 apm protoss actually has to think and react to his opponent during the game and cant just sit in his base until he has a certain amount of units then attack | ||
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