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CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
March 08 2009 05:04 GMT
#1
i don't understand...

in this game, i just played against a typical d+ protoss user on python. if you bwchart the rep, he doesn't use any hotkeys above 4. in the entire game, he was literally 1a2a3a.

i feel like shit that this game dragged on and ended after exactly 26 minutes. this kid had 112 apm, while i was practically utilizing all my hotkeys with 222 apm.

it pisses me off that a player like him with such a low apm with 1a2a3a tactics, hes able to pull off some gay shit to make it into a late game.

rep: http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=8498

this rant is not directly against this particular player.

my point is that i wouldn't have minded, only if this guy was doing as much as what i was doing.

ps: my scan timing might have been off during the 1st push, and maybe i could have ended the game then, but remember that it's not just this game as a whole. only the terran users would know

respect to all terrans and zergs.

***
SNSD fan
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 08 2009 05:14 GMT
#2
So basically this is a "damn protoss making me play a 20 minute game with half my apm by using 3 hotkeys."

hmmm... i guess i know how you feel =/
it's the same for me but I end up losing 2/3 of the time
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-08 05:21:14
March 08 2009 05:19 GMT
#3
Man, I play protoss and I feel that terran is imba. Every Terran walls in these days. Protoss has no idea what the terran is doing. If I do a 1 gate build, I get owned by FD. If I do a 2 gate build, I get owned by siege expand. Terran will have finished a CC before I even start my nexus. Sometimes my 2 gate observer gets owned by 2 fact. Mines own my Dragoons. Scvs own my probes.

Siege tank +Vulture >> Zeolot +Dragoon.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
March 08 2009 05:22 GMT
#4
Seriously so many people on iCCup just don't know when to give up. I keep thinking to myself "jesus please leave already", and it always makes me play way worse when I'm just waiting for someone to get out and when I win it doesn't feel good at all
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 08 2009 05:22 GMT
#5
why do you think terran users are angry all the time?

I started playing sc as protoss (ew) and I was happy and unstressed and everything was easy. Terran is exactly the opposite.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
March 08 2009 05:24 GMT
#6
Even when I offrace as terran I feel more angry than when I play protoss. I mean, I can lose a million times as protoss and not get angry but losing TvP just pisses me off sometimes.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
March 08 2009 05:25 GMT
#7
On March 08 2009 14:19 T.O.P. wrote:
Man, I play protoss and I feel that terran is imba. Every Terran walls in these days. Protoss has no idea what the terran is doing. If I do a 1 gate build, I get owned by FD. If I do a 2 gate build, I get owned by siege expand. Terran will have finished a CC before I even start my nexus. Sometimes my 2 gate observer gets owned by 2 fact. Mines own my Dragoons. Scvs own my probes.

Siege tank +Vulture >> Zeolot +Dragoon.

lol this sounded legit
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
March 08 2009 05:26 GMT
#8
On March 08 2009 14:22 Superiorwolf wrote:
Seriously so many people on iCCup just don't know when to give up. I keep thinking to myself "jesus please leave already", and it always makes me play way worse when I'm just waiting for someone to get out and when I win it doesn't feel good at all

Could not agree more.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
March 08 2009 05:28 GMT
#9
On March 08 2009 14:19 T.O.P. wrote:
Man, I play protoss and I feel that terran is imba. Every Terran walls in these days. Protoss has no idea what the terran is doing. If I do a 1 gate build, I get owned by FD. If I do a 2 gate build, I get owned by siege expand. Terran will have finished a CC before I even start my nexus. Sometimes my 2 gate observer gets owned by 2 fact. Mines own my Dragoons. Scvs own my probes.

Siege tank +Vulture >> Zeolot +Dragoon.


Although I too sometimes think that mines+terran ball=imba you're doing something wrong.

1 gate goons should have enough goons to repel FD; 2 gate you pressure if you scouted or make limited number of goons and be prepared to make more goons.

How are you losing to 2 fact with 2gate obs?
Stuck.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 08 2009 05:33 GMT
#10
Do you think Jaedong or Flash think stuff like this after losing to dragons? I wonder if July gets pissed after losing to Stork's APM that is hundreds lower...
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
March 08 2009 05:34 GMT
#11
On March 08 2009 14:26 Ingenol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2009 14:22 Superiorwolf wrote:
Seriously so many people on iCCup just don't know when to give up. I keep thinking to myself "jesus please leave already", and it always makes me play way worse when I'm just waiting for someone to get out and when I win it doesn't feel good at all

Could not agree more.


Yea, but that's the basis of great comebacks. The winner gets complacent, and 1 or 2 armies later the game's evened up.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
statix
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States1760 Posts
March 08 2009 05:36 GMT
#12
On March 08 2009 14:04 CapO wrote:
i don't understand...

in this game, i just played against a typical d+ protoss user on python. if you bwchart the rep, he doesn't use any hotkeys above 4. in the entire game, he was literally 1a2a3a.

i feel like shit that this game dragged on and ended after exactly 26 minutes. this kid had 112 apm, while i was practically utilizing all my hotkeys with 222 apm.

it pisses me off that a player like him with such a low apm with 1a2a3a tactics, hes able to pull off some gay shit to make it into a late game.

rep: http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=8498

this rant is not directly against this particular player.

my point is that i wouldn't have minded, only if this guy was doing as much as what i was doing.

ps: my scan timing might have been off during the 1st push, and maybe i could have ended the game then, but remember that it's not just this game as a whole. only the terran users would know

respect to all terrans and zergs.



it sounds like you need to stop worrying about how fast you move around and focus more on what you actually do with your actions.
SCC-Caliban
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
March 08 2009 05:43 GMT
#13
It's the reality of TvP. PvT is very very easy at low-mid levels. TvP is very very hard at all levels.

But most ICCUP Protosses are retarded and try to double expand all the time like this bum did. Once you confirm that they do with an scv you can just run them over with a 4 fact push (no armory). That should hopefully ease some of your very understandable woes.
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x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-08 05:44:21
March 08 2009 05:43 GMT
#14
play as zerg. a win is always a good feeling :D
Heaven came down and glory filled my soul, when at the cross the Savior made me whole
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-08 05:48:19
March 08 2009 05:47 GMT
#15
why should people have to have "222" apm to play the game?

apm isnt everything anyways maybe you arent utilizing your apm as well as you could be and just spamming
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
March 08 2009 05:49 GMT
#16
Everyone knows Protoss takes the least apm to play. Does this mean it's easy? Only if Starcraft were a shallow game where the only relevent factor was the speed of your hands. My apm is lowest when I play PvZ but it's by far the hardest matchup for me. My apm is low because I'm constantly thinking- about how to scout, harass, expand, react to zerg's movements. PvP is the opposite for me; I know the matchup instinctually and it's more about mechanics. I play much faster but I consider it much easier.
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-08 05:58:45
March 08 2009 05:57 GMT
#17
On March 08 2009 14:47 Rice wrote:
why should people have to have "222" apm to play the game?

apm isnt everything anyways maybe you arent utilizing your apm as well as you could be and just spamming


no, i don't spam after the beginning.

apm is not everything, you are right. did i say that? maybe you didn't get my point.

with the low apm, he was only doing 1a2a3a (no joke, for real).

edit: it's like me doing the best i can to win, while this another guy is playing with his feet like w/e and then drag the game... sigh. i suck
SNSD fan
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
March 08 2009 05:58 GMT
#18
I love how every terran and zerg player has a huge complex about their race :D
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
March 08 2009 06:00 GMT
#19
And it's been said, but if you really care about winning and having it easy and you really believe that playing Protoss is the way to acheive this then you're a moron for playing Terran. But of course, you wouldn't want that feeling to be taken away from you, that you're the victim, the underdog. Any time you lose (or hell, not win quickly enough!) you can always say "well I'm playing the hardest race, noob". It's elitism and it takes away from the spirit of what is supposed to be a fun game. I play Protoss. And I lose. A lot. I don't give a shit. I'm secure in my mediocrity and just want to hang out with like minded people who enjoy playing the best rts game in the whole damn world, not people who get off on constantly complaining about how hard they have it and how much better they clearly are than everyone else.

Just had to get that off my chest.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-08 06:02:09
March 08 2009 06:00 GMT
#20
Sometimes brain ( i mean protoss ) > mechanics. Thanks god.
That's not because he has shitty hotkeys that he deserve to be bashed...

I hate terran whiners.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
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