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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
February 21 2009 18:52 GMT
#21
lol you lose to bunkerrush lol.
koreakool
Profile Joined January 2008
United States334 Posts
February 21 2009 19:23 GMT
#22
bunker rushes are fun
I like starting on a bunker rush just to see the zerg pull all his drones
and then cancel the bunker =P
Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
February 21 2009 20:03 GMT
#23
On February 22 2009 04:23 koreakool wrote:
bunker rushes are fun
I like starting on a bunker rush just to see the zerg pull all his drones
and then cancel the bunker =P


Thats what i do haha.
Firebathero is still the best!
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
February 21 2009 20:23 GMT
#24
random unrelated picture:

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"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24756 Posts
February 21 2009 20:49 GMT
#25
On February 21 2009 23:50 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2009 22:58 Nytefish wrote:
Pretty arrogant to believe you deserve an extra base for free, no? ^^

how is 350 minerals free?

I think he meant free in that it doesn't require earning an advantage over the opponent (unlike say pvp where you can't expand unless you've earned it).
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 21 2009 23:19 GMT
#26
On February 22 2009 05:23 Not_Computer wrote:
random unrelated picture:

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I like what happens next, Jaedong still sits in his booth nerd raging like hell while FBH doesn't give a fuck and just walks out calmly and smiling.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
February 21 2009 23:27 GMT
#27
On February 21 2009 23:05 Chill wrote:
Hi, I'm going to talk about racial balance when I have no understanding of StarCraft.

I understand you're upset, but this kind of comment sets me on tilt. Learn to defend it or learn to play safer.

It's blog space. Forgive me if I'm irked after losing to a bunker rush I should've been able to defend.


Regardless of my "understanding of StarCraft", you have to admit it's frustrating when you're all set to stop the bunker rush (I had 8 drones outside of my nat and bunker) and you fuck it up (I couldn't kill the marine in time to make it into the bunker...T_T)

It's one of those "fuck my life" moments, I think. -____-;;


It's a rant, get over it.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
February 21 2009 23:33 GMT
#28
On February 22 2009 08:19 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2009 05:23 Not_Computer wrote:
random unrelated picture:

[image loading]

[image loading]


I like what happens next, Jaedong still sits in his booth nerd raging like hell while FBH doesn't give a fuck and just walks out calmly and smiling.


lol no.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
February 22 2009 00:04 GMT
#29
On February 22 2009 08:27 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2009 23:05 Chill wrote:
Hi, I'm going to talk about racial balance when I have no understanding of StarCraft.

I understand you're upset, but this kind of comment sets me on tilt. Learn to defend it or learn to play safer.

It's blog space. Forgive me if I'm irked after losing to a bunker rush I should've been able to defend.


Regardless of my "understanding of StarCraft", you have to admit it's frustrating when you're all set to stop the bunker rush (I had 8 drones outside of my nat and bunker) and you fuck it up (I couldn't kill the marine in time to make it into the bunker...T_T)

It's one of those "fuck my life" moments, I think. -____-;;


It's a rant, get over it.



its not THAT hard...

if you can snipe the scv making the bunker, lol so much delay already. and dont you always make 6 lings? and a sunken is an instant end to a bunker rush.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
February 22 2009 05:36 GMT
#30
On February 22 2009 09:04 ramen247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2009 08:27 PH wrote:
On February 21 2009 23:05 Chill wrote:
Hi, I'm going to talk about racial balance when I have no understanding of StarCraft.

I understand you're upset, but this kind of comment sets me on tilt. Learn to defend it or learn to play safer.

It's blog space. Forgive me if I'm irked after losing to a bunker rush I should've been able to defend.


Regardless of my "understanding of StarCraft", you have to admit it's frustrating when you're all set to stop the bunker rush (I had 8 drones outside of my nat and bunker) and you fuck it up (I couldn't kill the marine in time to make it into the bunker...T_T)

It's one of those "fuck my life" moments, I think. -____-;;


It's a rant, get over it.



its not THAT hard...

if you can snipe the scv making the bunker, lol so much delay already. and dont you always make 6 lings? and a sunken is an instant end to a bunker rush.

Sniping the SCV making the bunker is hard. I don't always make six lings...sometimes I try to get away with two or four...but the bunker generally comes before pool with a 12 hatch anyway. And a sunken...bunker will be done before you can even start teh sunken...-____-
Hello
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
February 22 2009 06:23 GMT
#31
On February 21 2009 23:11 besiger wrote:
get over it, its the terrans 4 pool.


Except the difference is 4 pool will mean instant loss for Zerg if it fails, while Bunker rush does not mean instant loss to T if it fails.

Hell, if T just cancels building bunker and pulls marines back, all he loses is almost nothing, just the fact he had to build barrack before depot.

Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
February 22 2009 06:33 GMT
#32
On February 22 2009 15:23 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2009 23:11 besiger wrote:
get over it, its the terrans 4 pool.


Except the difference is 4 pool will mean instant loss for Zerg if it fails, while Bunker rush does not mean instant loss to T if it fails.

Hell, if T just cancels building bunker and pulls marines back, all he loses is almost nothing, just the fact he had to build barrack before depot.


I'm guessing you're not really a Terran.
~o~ I have returned
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
February 22 2009 06:34 GMT
#33
Ok here is the proper way to stop a bunker rush:

Go 12 hatch as usual
When your overlord comes out (before you place your 12 hatch), you need to send it to your nat. Place it in a location so you can see him building a bunker

He starts building a bunker. Don't panic, just pull TWO drones and kill that SCV building it. If he cancels the bunker and runs, you are ahead because you just lost two drone's short mining time while he had to pay 25 minerals to cancel bunker.

If he brings marines and more scvs, this is when it gets tricky. Pull more drones than his number of SCV. They usually bring about 3-4 scv + 1 marine, you should bring like 6-7 drones. Try to snipe that marine, but if it runs away, either chase after it with micro, or kill the scv that is making the bunker. Either way, the GOAL is buy time until lings come out. Make sure you save larave to get 6 lings out when pool finishes.

If he runs away after he sees your lings, I like to go all-in lings because he doesn't have firebats by then, and if he tries to hold ramp, i'll use micro to trade lings for his scvs at ramp.

There are alot more imba T's advantages in TvZ than bunker rush my friend. The fact that they can build rax/fact and float it into back of ur base or surprise zerg with wraiths, vultures, or mech.
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-22 06:37:37
February 22 2009 06:35 GMT
#34
On February 22 2009 15:33 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2009 15:23 AzureEye wrote:
On February 21 2009 23:11 besiger wrote:
get over it, its the terrans 4 pool.


Except the difference is 4 pool will mean instant loss for Zerg if it fails, while Bunker rush does not mean instant loss to T if it fails.

Hell, if T just cancels building bunker and pulls marines back, all he loses is almost nothing, just the fact he had to build barrack before depot.


I'm guessing you're not really a Terran.


I'm guessing you are a Terran since you won't admit. Just admit that 4 pool is instant loss while failed bunker rush is nowhere close to disadvantage
BTW: Yes, I'm a ex-Zerg player who switched to Terran because I found TvZ imba in favor of T
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
February 22 2009 06:48 GMT
#35
On February 22 2009 15:35 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2009 15:33 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
On February 22 2009 15:23 AzureEye wrote:
On February 21 2009 23:11 besiger wrote:
get over it, its the terrans 4 pool.


Except the difference is 4 pool will mean instant loss for Zerg if it fails, while Bunker rush does not mean instant loss to T if it fails.

Hell, if T just cancels building bunker and pulls marines back, all he loses is almost nothing, just the fact he had to build barrack before depot.


I'm guessing you're not really a Terran.


I'm guessing you are a Terran since you won't admit. Just admit that 4 pool is instant loss while failed bunker rush is nowhere close to disadvantage
BTW: Yes, I'm a ex-Zerg player who switched to Terran because I found TvZ imba in favor of T

I never even brought up anything about a 4 pool, so I don't see how you can say I won't admit something I'm even talking about it. I agree that I wouldn't say a 4 pool and a bunker rush (and there are several variations so to count it all as one is rather ridiculous in terms of disadvantages) are the same, but that may not even be besiger's point. You think he's referring to them being the each race's equivalent, but he can be just saying that they're each race's gayest cheese versus each other.

BTW, there are tons of things you have to factor in about the matchup in general, not just bunker rush and 4 pool alone. Not to mention how you define a rush failing..that can go several ways.
~o~ I have returned
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-22 08:14:12
February 22 2009 08:08 GMT
#36
Just tested 8rax v standard play
At the 3 minute mark:

8rax, 9depot, 15depot, with 2 SCVs sent out as soon as rax finishes
12SCVs mining, 2 SCVs rushing, 1538 minerals mined

9depot, 11rax, 16depot, 18CC, with SCV scout sent at 12 supply
16 SCVs mining, 1 SCV scouting, 1656 minerals mined
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
February 22 2009 08:45 GMT
#37
For some reason, lol as a zerg player, they don't annoy me too much. I usually overcompensate and bring out like 7 drones to defend and generally works. Also, you can always counter with lings in his base.

I dunno though, I don't get bunker rushed all that often, I usually 12 hatch on maps that I believe I can defend. Also sending a 9 drone scout to see what is going on helps a lot because if he does go for it you will expect it. I tend to 9 drone scout a fair bit so that's maybe why I don't get bunker rushed all too often.

Lol I just realized this was in the blog section haha.
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