EPTSo a couple questions, if anyone knows.
- Did Artosis, NonY & Tasteless invent this build?
- Does anyone know the exact build order or timing?
Thanks.
10/15 Rush? [Q's]
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
So a couple questions, if anyone knows. Thanks. | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Oh, and someone pls tell me how these fuckers walk up to my base with 5 goons when my first tank is just arriving. | ||
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TonyL2
England1953 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84900 | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
12 gas 13 core 15 another gateway goon range asap SKIP PROBES now you are 15/17 so you skip two probes at least to let your first dragoon come out sooner so dragoon, 17/17 place a pylon when pylon is ready, you can afford two dragoons immediately this build grants you 3 dragoons very fast. | ||
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mogg
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Gas Cybercore Cut probes at 15 population get a gateway at 15 population once you get 150 minerals make a goon once core finishes goon range pylon your gateway will finish when your pylon and first goon do | ||
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naonao
United States847 Posts
10 gate 11/12 gas 13 core(as gate finishes) 15 gate/cut probes pylon range goon start probes again and pump goons works well for me. | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On January 26 2009 03:54 freelander wrote: 10 gateway 12 gas 13 core 15 another gateway goon range asap SKIP PROBES now you are 15/17 so you skip two probes at least to let your first dragoon come out sooner so dragoon, 17/17 place a pylon when pylon is ready, you can afford two dragoons immediately this build grants you 3 dragoons very fast. When do you scout, in this bo? | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On January 26 2009 04:01 Salv wrote: Thanks for the responses! I tried 10/15 in the search, but it won't let you search that. When do you scout, in this bo? well, it's up to you to decide later than usual for sure basically you just have to make sure you send your dragoons to the right base immediately, I think on a 3 player map you can get away with sending the builder of the second gateway. Also the answer for your question in the op: this is an old build, noone knows who started doing it. Certainly not those guys.  Also, the follow ups for the build: I think if you want to continue the hardcore dragoon producing after the first three, you have to skip some more probes. Because after your 3 goons, you'll be at 21/15. You can build your next goons and a pylon if you skip your probes, so you'll be at 25/25 and a pylon building. If you build only one goon instead of two, you don't have to skip the worker production. | ||
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Pengu1n
United States552 Posts
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
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NonY
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Pholon
Netherlands6142 Posts
Also, since he became predictable doing this most of the time I just cut marines (mkaing one or zero) and tank gets out soon enough. The build's worse on Colloseum when he can put the goons on the ramp. | ||
RaGe
Belgium9950 Posts
edit: hmm wait this build was used on neo guillotine too if I remember correctly. Dunno who popularized it then | ||
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TT1
Canada10014 Posts
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On January 26 2009 05:12 malongo wrote: Sometime ago i saw a rep of Nal_ra vs Iris on Longinus, blizzcon07 if my mind is right, but i cant find it anymore (Nal_ra used this BO, Iris countered with a wall/fake expo + proxy fact/mines). Please help me find it. I don't have the rep but I do have the VOD link! | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4341 Posts
But if you can't finish the T off with your goons or your DT, Terran will get ahead in econ and run you over later because you get your robo super late. | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
8pylon 10gate 11/12assim 13core 15gateway Then.. you create a dragoon and your at 17/17; then a pylon and I create range. After this however, I don't have enough minerals to do the following:
So, I am not sure if this is correct and your still supposed to be cutting probes to get those two goons AND the third pylon or what. | ||
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ff7legend
United States213 Posts
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
On January 26 2009 06:27 Salv wrote: I was trying to practice this and everything is fine up to: 8pylon 10gate 11/12assim 13core 15gateway Then.. you create a dragoon and your at 17/17; then a pylon and I create range. After this however, I don't have enough minerals to do the following:
So, I am not sure if this is correct and your still supposed to be cutting probes to get those two goons AND the third pylon or what. You have to keep cutting probes. A good example of the build order is Dreiven vs Ex from TSL on longinus. I also think he may have used it against Advokate, but I am not sure. | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On January 26 2009 06:54 ff7legend wrote: Your range comes first then u build a goon at 15/17, dont start probe production to soon, as you should be able to pump 5 goons without getting pylong stuck. Oh OK. Thanks, this helps. I was under the impression that I only skipped probes at 15. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
10 gate 11 assimilator 13 core 15 gate, cut probes goon range pylon dont start getting probes until you build another pylon and can afford constant goon production. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5525 Posts
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TT1
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United States2802 Posts
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