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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-08 11:53:59
January 08 2009 11:53 GMT
#1
There are a lot of threads that theorycraft ideas. Usually the thread incorporate using a new unit or spell, or trying a new unit combination. The ones you often see are about queen usage in ZvT or dark archons in PvZ. So I've decided I'm going to start anew on iCCup & play all match ups with a special style or incorporating under-used units & spells.

I'm a Protoss player and thus far I have decided on:
  • Protoss vs Terran: Incorporating corsairs & disruption web. Idea from: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=85496
  • Protoss vs Zerg: Dark archons (early DA; as a regular part of my unit composition). Idea from: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=85463
  • Protoss vs Protoss: I have no ideas for this yet. I don't really think there is a unique or different way for playing this. You could always try to incorporate DA, that's the only idea I have so far.


If you have any ideas for match ups, please post them here. I'll be posting replays & some write-ups about how they worked or didn't work later in the day.

BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
January 08 2009 11:58 GMT
#2
PvP: Mass goons and use a probe shield of about 10 probes to counter the opponent's more expensive zealot supplements.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-08 12:13:49
January 08 2009 12:06 GMT
#3
reaverhallucination in midgame PvP

if he focus fires at all he's fucked
edit: ofcourse archon hallucination is a classic one too. gets focusfired automatically, and you can have a shitload of real ones too after you merged your hallucinating ht's
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 08 2009 12:44 GMT
#4
pvp - corsair dt, you hunt down observers with the corsairs
And all is illuminated.
stet_tcl
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Greece319 Posts
January 08 2009 12:46 GMT
#5
Yea, you can work with hallucination alot imo maybe in PvP and definitely PvT.
Give it a try and tell us how it went!
Chameleon
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States604 Posts
January 08 2009 13:05 GMT
#6
I remember seeing a pro game pvp on katrina where one of the players made a DA and used it to feedback his opponents HT's, that was pretty sweet.

I'd also like to see a PvT where toss gets arbs and constantly sends dts around the map and then makes DA's to feedback science vessels

Something i was just thinking about today was a build that takes advantage of the uniqueness of Andromeda having that min only up your main ramp. Instead of the normal forge FE you put down a gate instead and expo at your main into a power zeal timing attack. I dont know if this would actually work since you're stuck on 1 gas forever but since you're mostly just pumping zeals as fast as possible you might find a timing window where you would be able to get away w/ it.
TL's #1 Horang2 fan
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
January 08 2009 13:21 GMT
#7
I'll say it again. Skipping Robo completely and using DA's MC to MC Overlords for detection.
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fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
January 08 2009 13:43 GMT
#8
In the recent pgl games the chinese players used early dweb vs terran, early da vs zerg, late game hallucination

so.. yea...

Bit of a shame nowdays everyone just copies the pro league scene and throwing creative play out the window
bisu fanboy
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
January 08 2009 14:37 GMT
#9
I use DA's in almost every PvZ.
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
January 08 2009 14:52 GMT
#10
On January 08 2009 22:21 Chill wrote:
I'll say it again. Skipping Robo completely and using DA's MC to MC Overlords for detection.


Chill is Gosu, This way you could skip observers for Lurkers.

DA/HT DROP, Da's for Maelstrom and then you Psi Storm, or use archon to kill stacked workers
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
January 08 2009 14:54 GMT
#11
PvT get a scout to take hits from turrets for your reaver drop (with zealots to take hit from tanks)

PvZ hallucinate shuttles for storm drops

On January 08 2009 22:21 Chill wrote:
I'll say it again. Skipping Robo completely and using DA's MC to MC Overlords for detection.

Never thought of that one, it's fun but lose the ovie (to 2 scourges) and you are fucked.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 08 2009 15:25 GMT
#12
multi robo zealot/reaver doom drop pvp
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
January 08 2009 16:20 GMT
#13
The dweb PvT is so freaking strong.

The way Ive done it and I have seen a really good protoss friend of mine do it is by just massing goons only and since early in the game getting corsairs but dont let em in sight...
These strat is good to beat those turtlers T's that come out when they have a huge mass, you will be surprised how quickly their army goes down with dweb.. so basically start researching and gatherin a good amount of corsairs since early in the game and dont show them until the big deciding battle comes into place
+ Show Spoiler +

One of the best feelings in the world, seeing GOONS ONLY destroying a massive Terran Army just because of DWEB
w/e
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43345 Posts
January 08 2009 16:32 GMT
#14
On January 08 2009 22:21 Chill wrote:
I'll say it again. Skipping Robo completely and using DA's MC to MC Overlords for detection.

How are you meant to protect them from scourge?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
January 08 2009 16:33 GMT
#15
On January 09 2009 01:32 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2009 22:21 Chill wrote:
I'll say it again. Skipping Robo completely and using DA's MC to MC Overlords for detection.

How are you meant to protect them from scourge?

With Corsairs?
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
January 08 2009 16:50 GMT
#16
On January 08 2009 21:06 RaGe wrote:
reaverhallucination in midgame PvP

if he focus fires at all he's fucked
edit: ofcourse archon hallucination is a classic one too. gets focusfired automatically, and you can have a shitload of real ones too after you merged your hallucinating ht's

Hallu reavers don't fire so they will probably be spotted easily ):
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
January 08 2009 16:51 GMT
#17
On January 09 2009 01:20 InfeSteD wrote:
The dweb PvT is so freaking strong.

The way Ive done it and I have seen a really good protoss friend of mine do it is by just massing goons only and since early in the game getting corsairs but dont let em in sight...
These strat is good to beat those turtlers T's that come out when they have a huge mass, you will be surprised how quickly their army goes down with dweb.. so basically start researching and gatherin a good amount of corsairs since early in the game and dont show them until the big deciding battle comes into place
+ Show Spoiler +

One of the best feelings in the world, seeing GOONS ONLY destroying a massive Terran Army just because of DWEB

God I love that shit, goon/sair is probably my favorite build of all time.
Peace~
Chau
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada408 Posts
January 08 2009 17:19 GMT
#18
Even if the reaver's don't fire, you may be able to get them to think the scarabs are just building and you have horrible timing... xD
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
January 08 2009 17:22 GMT
#19
PvP slow push with proxied shield batteries.

On January 08 2009 20:53 Salv wrote:
[*]Protoss vs Terran: Incorporating corsairs & disruption web. Idea from: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=85496


Lol, game?
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
ish0wstopper
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)342 Posts
January 08 2009 17:36 GMT
#20
using dweb is a really old strat though
ish0wstopper effect
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