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PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
January 08 2009 18:08 GMT
#21
On January 09 2009 02:19 Chau wrote:
Even if the reaver's don't fire, you may be able to get them to think the scarabs are just building and you have horrible timing... xD

well, the reavers will be only 100hp each, so it shouldn't matter. If he focus fire in them most probably they'll die instantly. Hell even 1 scarab shoot will do, but if it does it would have already paid off.
Chau
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada408 Posts
January 08 2009 18:43 GMT
#22
I think the point of hallu reavers is to make the opponent move a bit too close.

i.e. playing PvP, the other guy will see your reaver moving slowly in the back, and charge their goons in to try and focus it down before it gets a chance to shoot.
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
January 08 2009 19:01 GMT
#23
queen usage isnt theorycraft anymore.

we just dont have a proper BO down for it... but it's being used pretty consistently, usually off of two base no hydra den --> lair --> spire, queen+evo --> hive tech. july uses a greater spire variation while jaedong uses it with hydra lurkerling defiler
manner
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
January 08 2009 19:01 GMT
#24
overlords take 2 scourge to die, i really dont see any holes in this gameplan
Entusman #12
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
January 08 2009 20:06 GMT
#25
If you go DA vs Protoss who goes Reavers. MC his shuttle and BAM. Free reavers without needing the tech.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Chameleon
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States604 Posts
January 09 2009 14:53 GMT
#26
^^

From my favorite thread:

On June 24 2008 06:08 blabber wrote:
I'm purple, opponent is red

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you think you're good huh?

+ Show Spoiler +
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gg


btw I love this site
http://www.online-utility.org/image_converter.jsp

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FXOTheoRy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States519 Posts
January 10 2009 02:21 GMT
#27
i played some faggot on iccup PVP when i was at c- level. this guy dt rushed me and it failed while i went reaver with speed shuttle upgrade. This guy then builds a crapload of cannons, and warps his dt's that didn't work into dark archons. i move all my units in front of his choke, then i start to run the shuttle around the back to harass. he freaking mind controls my damn speed shuttle with two reavers in it, runs to my base and rapes all my probes. i haven't played iccup since.
oyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoy
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
January 10 2009 03:14 GMT
#28
On January 10 2009 11:21 tekushikume wrote:
i played some faggot on iccup PVP when i was at c- level. this guy dt rushed me and it failed while i went reaver with speed shuttle upgrade. This guy then builds a crapload of cannons, and warps his dt's that didn't work into dark archons. i move all my units in front of his choke, then i start to run the shuttle around the back to harass. he freaking mind controls my damn speed shuttle with two reavers in it, runs to my base and rapes all my probes. i haven't played iccup since.


This is why i hate protoss
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