No Country For Old Men...why is it good? - Page 2

On December 31 2008 08:00 Murlox wrote:
I didnt read much, but :

Why in the hell would you HAVE to like it ?

On December 31 2008 08:19 Xeris wrote:
The movie takes a really bleak view on life - ultimately it's not really the struggle of good vs. evil, but it is the bleak realization of evil in the world, and the fact that no matter how hard people try to fight or combat it, evil really can't be understood, explained, or stopped.

Jones' character is the narrator - he's dedicated his life to being a sheriff, upholding the law, and combating evil. Bardem's character is purely evil, a psychopath. There is no real rhyme or reason to what he does, he's driven by his own perverse code. Jones can't understand it and is frightened by him. It's why he's always reluctant to put a lot of effort into searching for him, because he knows that ultimately he won't be stopped or aprehended,

And ya, Tommy Lee Jones is really the main character, Josh Brolin is really less than a support character, he just serves to drive the actual story of the movie. Why it's good is that there is much more than just the story, which by its nature, is really plain and simple (like the country).

- A guy finds money, people are looking for the money, they hired someone to find the money and bring it back. He runs, he's chased by the bad guy, he dies...

Again, that really isn't the main focus, it's more about Tommy Lee Jones and his monologues, and the fact that although Bardem's character is inherently evil, he is still guided by some sort of principles, although a normal person isn't truly able to comprehend exactly what they are.

On December 31 2008 08:16 yaoherm50 wrote:
The biggest hint is the title of the film.

On December 31 2008 09:49 Doctorasul wrote:
Have you guys ever watched a movie and thought it was crap but couldn't admit to wasting time and money on it so you just made up some reasons why it was awesome? And then when you finally got the nerve to admit you didn't get it, all your friends confessed they were pretending to love it too?

Anyway, I thought No Country for Old Men was awesome, I loved it.

On December 31 2008 08:31 Hot_Bid wrote:
imo that chick should've flipped for her life at the end

i mean, 50% at living is better than 0%

On December 31 2008 08:12 ForVengeance wrote:
The reason why people like movies is because human beings are bored, dumb animals. A "movie" is like life, only fast food style. Its a "McLife". People cannot imagine things on their own, they need a film to do it for them. The proof in this is that people can sit and watch children dying of cancer, countries in need, all the horrors of the world, and they still at the end of the day desire more drama. To me if people really want to lead epic lives they could just take up a position and help real human beings. What more epic struggle is there than real life problems? They are all around us and yet we sit and watch a "Mcdrama" instead.

Long story short, people are too lazy to live their own lives, and they live through movies/music. Its no different than a teenage kid thinking a heavy metal record will make him a badass, or a 40 year old guy in midlife crisis thinking a fast car will make him young again.

I know im in the minority, but id rather be dead than sit around waiting for some movie to define for me what fear, love, sex, morality, etc are. I define that in my own mind. Movies are money making scams and they are all the story of jesus christ retold over and over, just as the bible itself is a retelling of that same story that existed before christianity was invented.

Every movie is a rearranged version of the story of jesus christ, with all the subplots being mini versions of that same story. Dont believe me? "Happy Feet" is a perfect recent example. So is "the Pirates of the Carribbean". You will always see the main character coming from uncertain or emotionally charged origins, making their way through conflicts, a sacrifice will be made through either story events or symbolism, and then they will symbolically come full circle etc etc. So fucking boring.

And yet people line up year after year for every turd hollywood shits out.

On December 31 2008 11:37 travis wrote:
hey man, im not an animal! im a PERSON

On December 31 2008 08:12 ForVengeance wrote:
The reason why people like movies is because human beings are bored, dumb animals. A "movie" is like life, only fast food style. Its a "McLife". People cannot imagine things on their own, they need a film to do it for them. The proof in this is that people can sit and watch children dying of cancer, countries in need, all the horrors of the world, and they still at the end of the day desire more drama. To me if people really want to lead epic lives they could just take up a position and help real human beings. What more epic struggle is there than real life problems? They are all around us and yet we sit and watch a "Mcdrama" instead.

Long story short, people are too lazy to live their own lives, and they live through movies/music. Its no different than a teenage kid thinking a heavy metal record will make him a badass, or a 40 year old guy in midlife crisis thinking a fast car will make him young again.

I know im in the minority, but id rather be dead than sit around waiting for some movie to define for me what fear, love, sex, morality, etc are. I define that in my own mind. Movies are money making scams and they are all the story of jesus christ retold over and over, just as the bible itself is a retelling of that same story that existed before christianity was invented.

Every movie is a rearranged version of the story of jesus christ, with all the subplots being mini versions of that same story. Dont believe me? "Happy Feet" is a perfect recent example. So is "the Pirates of the Carribbean". You will always see the main character coming from uncertain or emotionally charged origins, making their way through conflicts, a sacrifice will be made through either story events or symbolism, and then they will symbolically come full circle etc etc. So fucking boring.

And yet people line up year after year for every turd hollywood shits out.

On December 31 2008 10:54 Frits wrote:


Yeah but this way she totally owned the serial killer, he was probably pretty annoyed at that.

Besides they dont show if he actually kills her right?

On December 31 2008 11:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:


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On December 31 2008 10:54 Frits wrote:


Yeah but this way she totally owned the serial killer, he was probably pretty annoyed at that.

Besides they dont show if he actually kills her right?

On December 31 2008 11:12 Track wrote:
Shighur is the ULTIMATE bad guy, and in my opinion he is by far scarier than a villain like the Joker from Batman.

The Joker is motivated by certain things, materialism mixed with an enjoyment of crime. He is predictable to an extent because he cares about what he is doing.

Shighur doesn't give a shit. About anything. This is the absolute scariest thing in the world, and it IS that way because nobody can understand it. Shighur kills without rhyme or reason, simply because it's something to do, or the person got in his way, or it somehow came across his mind to kill them, or to prove a point. This apathy towards life can be seen in the scene where he randomly forces the gas station attendant to flip a coin(obviously intending to kill him if he called the coin wrong) and then teaching him a lesson about the randomness of life(Don't put the coin back in your pocket. It's your lucky quarter. Put it on your pocket and it'll mix in with all the others and be just another coin. Which it is.)

Shighur cannot be bargained with, cannot be bought, cannot be dissuaded in any way. This is because he simply does not care whether he lives or dies, or for ANY material or ideological purpose whatsoever.

Shighur's character is the most frightening thing for me.. I'd rather have a hate-crazed maniac chasing me than Anton Shighur. At least the maniac is driven by things I can understand, and has reasons for his behavior, and may stop given certain circumstances. People that are apathetic to the degree of Shighur.. There's no dealing with them.

His character is a commentary on the randomness of life. The car crash at the end displays that perfectly. While Jones and the other supporting characters have been trying to harm Shighur throughout the movie, they cannot. A random car, however, breaks Shighur's arm.