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hey guys
recently ive noticed in the last month or so that my vision in my right eye is blurry at a distance so i went to the doc to get it checked out. he checked my right eye and said it was near-sightedness (i think it was 20/70), whereas my left eye is pretty strong (i think it was 20/15)
im pretty sad, i thought it was eye strain and i dont really want to wear glasses and contacts, so im thinking about possible lasik or related surgery in the future.
ive read the other 2 threads and they were pretty informative, but i dont know what the -3.5 business means. i think my right eye is 20/70, whats that in relation to the other way of scaling?
also, ive never had any vision problems in the past so i dont know really what my options are. ive been to the doc but not the optomotrist (he did some weird paper hole test and i could see fine through the holes with my impaired eye, so he said its near-sightedness). since my left eye is great and he said its not going to get short sighted, should i bother with getting glasses/contacts, and just wait until im eligible for surgery?
will using contacts disqualify me possibly for later lasik treatment? the doc said that no two eyes are the same but one of my eyes is pretty bad and the other one is really strong, is this normal?
since im 20/70 will lasik do anything? i dont expect to have perfect 20/20 vision, maybe 20/30?
i dont care if i have sore eyes or bleeding or dry eyes from the lasik surgery even if its for the rest of my life, i can deal with that and id much rather have that than be short sighted or dependant on lenses.
anyways, im going to the optometrist tomorrow to get analysed, can anyone share their knowledge with my since im a bit of a noob? itd make me feel a little better i guess, im a bit down right now
thanks
mike
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how much minus did you have?
I have -2.5 on my left and -2.25 on my right and I see pretty bad without contacts/glasses.
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i didnt have a minus thing, it said like 6 / 24 or something on the chart, i could read like the first 4 lines without the paper thingy
should i be worried that one eye is bad and the other eye is fine?
will surgery be able to at least partly help my eye? my parents have said they would pay it
also, what do you mean by pretty bad? can you read and play the computer fine without aid?
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Numbers such as "-2" are diopter measurements that provide information on the curvature of the lens itself. Numbers such as 20/XX means that at a distance of 20 meters you perceive objects as clearly as if it they were XX meters away from a standard eye that does not need glasses.
As for the main topic, you should ask a professional optometrist.
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yeah, im going tomorrow i was just curious about about the experiences and knowledge of it here. so theres no way i can ascertain what my minus thingy is from 20/70? id have to see a professional first?
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On November 30 2008 10:49 JohnColtrane wrote:
will surgery be able to at least partly help my eye? my parents have said they would pay it
I'm not sure how old you are, but keep in mind that getting eye surgery too young may cause complications as your eyes age (at least with the older procedures, not sure if that's still true now).
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sorry, i turned 18 last june
eh, it was like a 1d to 2d from the chart test, it definately wasnt as bad as a 3d
ive researched some sites and some say recipients should be 18+ and others 20+., i dont know anyone thats developed short sightedness at my current age, only people at at least a few years younger, so i was wondering how much longer itll take until it stops and i can get treatment (if i choose to)
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Lasik is not worth it if you only have 20/70 in one eye. It is new procedure and we don't know the long term effects yet. For all we know it could make people go blind 30 years after the operation.
Also, it is not worth having lasik when you are younger as your eyes will continue to change. If you develop vision problems later in life after having lasik, undergoing lasik again is not an option.
On November 30 2008 10:30 JohnColtrane wrote:
i dont care if i have sore eyes or bleeding or dry eyes from the lasik surgery even if its for the rest of my life, i can deal with that and id much rather have that than be short sighted or dependant on lenses.
This is a very naive outlook on your situation. With a single contact in your bad eye, the only side effect might be occasional itchiness/irritation of that eye. Why are you willing to accept chronic pain and discomfort over that?
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you should wait till you are at least 22+, because your eyes might continue to deteriorate over time and eventually stabilize(mine stabilized around 20 years old), go to optometrist each year check if is there is change to your eye sight; when it is stabilized, that is when you consult many optometrist as possible, never trust advices from just one optometrist. Do a lot of research on lasik because new technology is coming out all the time. Lastly, don't go to cheap places and don't expect the correction to last forever, chances are, you might not get 20/20 vision after and even if you do, you may need glasses for long distance reading, but ok for regular things.
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On November 30 2008 10:56 professorjoak wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2008 10:49 JohnColtrane wrote:
will surgery be able to at least partly help my eye? my parents have said they would pay it
I'm not sure how old you are, but keep in mind that getting eye surgery too young may cause complications as your eyes age (at least with the older procedures, not sure if that's still true now).
Yeah, even if the odds are low, why risk it? 20/70 isn't bad at all, and if it isn't affecting your ability to live normally, just wait for laser eye surgery to get better. My left eye is near-sighted similar to yours and doesn't give me any problems, although I do have prescription sunglasses that I use for driving. I don't need them, but if I'm wearing sunglasses, I may as well help my vision at the same time.
My brother recently had the surgery done, but he was something like 20/200 and needed contacts just to see normally.
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On November 30 2008 11:02 PiSan wrote:Lasik is not worth it if you only have 20/70 in one eye. It is new procedure and we don't know the long term effects yet. For all we know it could make people go blind 30 years after the operation. Also, it is not worth having lasik when you are younger as your eyes will continue to change. If you develop vision problems later in life after having lasik, undergoing lasik again is not an option. Show nested quote +On November 30 2008 10:30 JohnColtrane wrote:
i dont care if i have sore eyes or bleeding or dry eyes from the lasik surgery even if its for the rest of my life, i can deal with that and id much rather have that than be short sighted or dependant on lenses. This is a very naive outlook on your situation. With a single contact in your bad eye, the only side effect might be occasional itchiness/irritation of that eye. Why are you willing to accept chronic pain and discomfort over that?
i like the practicality of the surgery, i can go swim and play sport and stuff without any impaired vision. Yes, as long as the pain is not so severe that i cant make it out of bed in the morning itll be alright, tbh itd much more painful knowing that id have to rely on a contact to see out of my bad eye. so i take it, 20/70 is not THAT bad of a case of myopia?
in any case, in 30years ill be 50. even if i do go blind in 30 years, ill still have my good left eye, and id rather be mostly unrestricted when im a kid with the surgery and risk blindness in my right eye in the future. ill most likely need glasses in the future anyway, and i may not even like till im 50
sorry if i sound naive and stupid, im just a bit ticked off and sad right now, im trying to think things through but i guess i havent had enough time. also, if i do everything right with contacts, will it damage my eyes?
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On November 30 2008 11:07 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2008 11:02 PiSan wrote:Lasik is not worth it if you only have 20/70 in one eye. It is new procedure and we don't know the long term effects yet. For all we know it could make people go blind 30 years after the operation. Also, it is not worth having lasik when you are younger as your eyes will continue to change. If you develop vision problems later in life after having lasik, undergoing lasik again is not an option. On November 30 2008 10:30 JohnColtrane wrote:
i dont care if i have sore eyes or bleeding or dry eyes from the lasik surgery even if its for the rest of my life, i can deal with that and id much rather have that than be short sighted or dependant on lenses. This is a very naive outlook on your situation. With a single contact in your bad eye, the only side effect might be occasional itchiness/irritation of that eye. Why are you willing to accept chronic pain and discomfort over that? i like the practicality of the surgery, i can go swim and play sport and stuff without any impaired vision. Yes, as long as the pain is not so severe that i cant make it out of bed in the morning itll be alright, tbh itd much more painful knowing that id have to rely on a contact to see out of my bad eye. so i take it, 20/70 is not THAT bad of a case of myopia? in any case, in 30years ill be 50. even if i do go blind in 30 years, ill still have my good left eye, and id rather be mostly unrestricted when im a kid with the surgery and risk blindness in my right eye in the future. ill most likely need glasses in the future anyway, and i may not even like till im 50 sorry if i sound naive and stupid, im just a bit ticked off and sad right now, im trying to think things through but i guess i havent had enough time. also, if i do everything right with contacts, will it damage my eyes?
you are not only naive and also childish, you shouldn't be asking this kind of questions on TL, we can only provide some basic knowledge, if you want real and reliable answers, go to an optometrist on monday and ask all the questions you have asked here and more.
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On November 30 2008 11:06 ShadowDrgn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2008 10:56 professorjoak wrote:On November 30 2008 10:49 JohnColtrane wrote:
will surgery be able to at least partly help my eye? my parents have said they would pay it
I'm not sure how old you are, but keep in mind that getting eye surgery too young may cause complications as your eyes age (at least with the older procedures, not sure if that's still true now). Yeah, even if the odds are low, why risk it? 20/70 isn't bad at all, and if it isn't affecting your ability to live normally, just wait for laser eye surgery to get better. My left eye is near-sighted similar to yours and doesn't give me any problems, although I do have prescription sunglasses that I use for driving. I don't need them, but if I'm wearing sunglasses, I may as well help my vision at the same time. My brother recently had the surgery done, but he was something like 20/200 and needed contacts just to see normally.
thanks for the reply, yeah i know its a risk to get it done since its so new, what about the other related surgery?
i can drive and stuff fine, my other eye works good and i can even see number plates reasonably well with my bad eye but i wouldnt like to count on it when im driving
how is your brother? how old is he, and did he have both eyes done?
id like to get the surgery in the future, thats my aim, i dont mind wearing glasses or contacts until then but i think i can get by without them incase they limit my future eligibility for the it
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On November 30 2008 11:10 ilovehnk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2008 11:07 JohnColtrane wrote:On November 30 2008 11:02 PiSan wrote:Lasik is not worth it if you only have 20/70 in one eye. It is new procedure and we don't know the long term effects yet. For all we know it could make people go blind 30 years after the operation. Also, it is not worth having lasik when you are younger as your eyes will continue to change. If you develop vision problems later in life after having lasik, undergoing lasik again is not an option. On November 30 2008 10:30 JohnColtrane wrote:
i dont care if i have sore eyes or bleeding or dry eyes from the lasik surgery even if its for the rest of my life, i can deal with that and id much rather have that than be short sighted or dependant on lenses. This is a very naive outlook on your situation. With a single contact in your bad eye, the only side effect might be occasional itchiness/irritation of that eye. Why are you willing to accept chronic pain and discomfort over that? i like the practicality of the surgery, i can go swim and play sport and stuff without any impaired vision. Yes, as long as the pain is not so severe that i cant make it out of bed in the morning itll be alright, tbh itd much more painful knowing that id have to rely on a contact to see out of my bad eye. so i take it, 20/70 is not THAT bad of a case of myopia? in any case, in 30years ill be 50. even if i do go blind in 30 years, ill still have my good left eye, and id rather be mostly unrestricted when im a kid with the surgery and risk blindness in my right eye in the future. ill most likely need glasses in the future anyway, and i may not even like till im 50 sorry if i sound naive and stupid, im just a bit ticked off and sad right now, im trying to think things through but i guess i havent had enough time. also, if i do everything right with contacts, will it damage my eyes? you are not only naive and also childish, you shouldn't be asking this kind of questions on TL, we can only provide some basic knowledge, if you want real and reliable answers, go to an optometrist on monday and ask all the questions you have asked here and more.
steady on, i am going to an opto tomorrow, and i AM going to be asking these questions, i just wanted some opinions and some questions answered, of course im not going to base my decision on what TL.net says, but i like this community and since i have a half day of spare time i thought, why not ask? maybe some people have had similar experiences and can share that with me
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you are too impulsive, did you even read what I have said ? you don't want to fuck up now and regret for life.I felt like I just wasted a lot of time writing all these shit you.
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On November 30 2008 11:13 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2008 11:10 ilovehnk wrote:On November 30 2008 11:07 JohnColtrane wrote:On November 30 2008 11:02 PiSan wrote:Lasik is not worth it if you only have 20/70 in one eye. It is new procedure and we don't know the long term effects yet. For all we know it could make people go blind 30 years after the operation. Also, it is not worth having lasik when you are younger as your eyes will continue to change. If you develop vision problems later in life after having lasik, undergoing lasik again is not an option. On November 30 2008 10:30 JohnColtrane wrote:
i dont care if i have sore eyes or bleeding or dry eyes from the lasik surgery even if its for the rest of my life, i can deal with that and id much rather have that than be short sighted or dependant on lenses. This is a very naive outlook on your situation. With a single contact in your bad eye, the only side effect might be occasional itchiness/irritation of that eye. Why are you willing to accept chronic pain and discomfort over that? i like the practicality of the surgery, i can go swim and play sport and stuff without any impaired vision. Yes, as long as the pain is not so severe that i cant make it out of bed in the morning itll be alright, tbh itd much more painful knowing that id have to rely on a contact to see out of my bad eye. so i take it, 20/70 is not THAT bad of a case of myopia? in any case, in 30years ill be 50. even if i do go blind in 30 years, ill still have my good left eye, and id rather be mostly unrestricted when im a kid with the surgery and risk blindness in my right eye in the future. ill most likely need glasses in the future anyway, and i may not even like till im 50 sorry if i sound naive and stupid, im just a bit ticked off and sad right now, im trying to think things through but i guess i havent had enough time. also, if i do everything right with contacts, will it damage my eyes? you are not only naive and also childish, you shouldn't be asking this kind of questions on TL, we can only provide some basic knowledge, if you want real and reliable answers, go to an optometrist on monday and ask all the questions you have asked here and more. steady on, i am going to an opto tomorrow, and i AM going to be asking these questions, i just wanted some opinions and some questions answered, of course im not going to base my decision on what TL.net says, but i like this community and since i have a half day of spare time i thought, why not ask? maybe some people have had similar experiences and can share that with me
You want professional advices, and people here on TL have subjective views. Even if someone had lasik here, can you expect that the individual have similar genetics and eye problem as you?
The results of lasik will vary from person to person and from surgeon to surgeon. I am not even in a hurry to get lasik, because once you have it, you can't undone it...
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look pal, like i said, i was only after mainly opinions and some clarity on a few subjects, like the lens curvature thing.
ill tell you what i would regret, missing out on a surgery that could fix my eyes for my entire childhood and a large part of my adult years. even if i did go blind when im 50, i still have my left eye and i dont care if you think thats a stupid way to look at things but the truth is id rather have an unhindered life from my 20s to my 40s and lose half my sight when im a doddery old man. chances are ill lose half my sight when im an old man
sorry if you are offended, may i ask if you have the problem in both eyes? the only fuckup i can see happening is if the surgery WORSENS my eyesight in the short term, even if it doesnt do anything to my eyes and just leaves them the way they are i dont see that as a fuckup, just that i failed to gain anything.
of course im going to consult an opto and if he recommends i dont get surgery then i wont. ill look into other options
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On November 30 2008 11:11 JohnColtrane wrote:
how is your brother? how old is he, and did he have both eyes done?
He's 29 and I believe he had both eyes done. Honestly, we live on opposite sides of the country and don't talk much, but as far as I know he's very happy with the results. In 10-20 years, who knows, but for him it was the difference between having normal vision and being half-blind without contacts in. I'm not even considering it because my vision problems aren't affecting my quality of life, and you seem to be in the same position.
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what do you mean, in 10-20 years? is that the projected length of lasik fixing his vision?
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No, it's just that no one knows what the long term effects of lasik will be. Could be perfectly safe, might not be...
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10-20 years because lasik is so new we don't know what could happen that long after the operation.
Something to keep in mind, eye doctors all wear glasses.
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just another question, i looked at lasek, and it says dio between -1 and -7, just curious if anyone would know whether or not i would fit into that range? and if anyone has been told if lasik has the same restrictions?
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Why spend a few thousand on laser eye surgery when you could spend considerably less on glasses/contacts with almost guaranteed results and minimal risk.
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Laser eye surgery and other non-laser eye correction procedures have been around a lot longer than some of you claim. Your eyes are not going to fall off or go blind. Do some research for yourself, better yet, ask your optometrist. Someone did give a pretty good advice to wait until you are older, I'm sure your optometrist will say the same. So for now, accept that fact that you should deal with the problem. Besides, even the "laser" surgery is a SURGERY, so there is a risk involved so you should not take it lightly.
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I think the biggest risk in lasik is dry eye, and you said you wouldn't mind that, but have you heard of stories of people who suffer from this post-surgery? Do some research and you will find that you DO NOT want that to happen to you.
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On November 30 2008 11:46 Ludrik wrote:
Why spend a few thousand on laser eye surgery when you could spend considerably less on glasses/contacts with almost guaranteed results and minimal risk.
like i said before, the price is not so bad. i mean, braces are like 4 and a half grand here and people pay that.
my family isnt poor and i dont spend any money i earn, so i dont mind paying it
sure the dry eyes would be an inconvenience and maybe even painful but thats ok. itd be painful having to take my lenses off everytime i wanted to jump in the pool or roll in the mud
if you live life worried about risk you may as well quit right now, you only have about 80years or so to live so why not strive for the best? its not as risky as you think, no more so than alot of other surgeries, in the short term at least. im not saying you should ignore danger but really there is a very low chance of something bad happening, and i dont think dry eyes should count as something bad
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has anyone personally had this done or a similar surgery? what are your thoughts about it? do you regret doing it? was it worth it, and anyone side affects? what state were your eyes in?
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Physician
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Sucks for you. 20/15 here.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Why not try glasses/contacts until you are old enough for lasik?
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because i dont want that burden, id rather just deal it than just circumvent it
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On December 01 2008 02:10 KizZBG wrote:
Why not try glasses/contacts until you are old enough for lasik?
also, i dont know if there was an actual age limit, i thought it was when ur eyes stopped changing
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Recommended age for laser eye surgery is 25. Seriously, why not try wearing contacts if you don't want to wear glasses? Contacts these days are REALLY good and you can't even feel they're there.
edit: just read the new thread. If you're not feeling any discomfort seeing things don't bother with anything.
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ok, im fine with my eyes now but i turn 19 in 6 months and i dont know if my eye will deteoriate / if the other eye will get short sighted too. i heared eyes stabilise in the early 20s. also, i think i only got this late, so does that mean ill have to wait even longer for them to stabilise compared to a person that got diagnosed in elementary school?
im going to try wearing a contact, i just dont want them to possibly rule out any refractive surgery in the future by damaging my eyes.
actually, im starting to think that lasek is a better option than lasik, if my eyes get worse. i have no idea if they will or wont, the doc says he cannot tell.
but, 25 years, it could be shorter if my eyes stabilise before that right? is that the only reason its 25 and not 15? its just when ur eyes stop changing around?
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On November 30 2008 12:07 tKd_ wrote:
I think the biggest risk in lasik is dry eye, and you said you wouldn't mind that, but have you heard of stories of people who suffer from this post-surgery? Do some research and you will find that you DO NOT want that to happen to you.
of course i DO NOT want to get dry eyes, but if dry eyes comes with the lasik almost perfect vision in my right eye then i wont hesitate. besides, i think the incidence of chronic dry eyes in lasek is really low
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I started wearing contacts a year ago, and I think they are amazing and not burdensome at all. After a few months, putting in contacts became a five second task that I did in the morning along with showering and brushing my teeth. Sometimes, during the first few months, I even forgot they were in my eyes. You can swim and do w/e you want to do with them and you'll be fine. It does depend a little on the shape of your eyes. Contacts happen to fit perfectly on mine, so just try it. It's less extreme than lasik and it's much much safer.
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you can swim with them without goggles?
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Yea, but for some people they fall out easily in water. When water contacts the other side, it loses some adhesion to your eye or something like that. For me, it never does. If you get the soft ones that you replace every few weeks, losing it once or twice won't really hurt anyways. But I guess it depends on the shape of your eye.
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oh, how about swimming in the sea? any risk of eye infection?
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oh ok thanks a bunch man ill read it now
oh sweet, disposables seem the best option, although i probably wont even bother with lenses at all unless my eyes worsen
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