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hey guys
recently ive noticed in the last month or so that my vision in my right eye is blurry at a distance so i went to the doc to get it checked out. he checked my right eye and said it was near-sightedness (i think it was 20/70), whereas my left eye is pretty strong (i think it was 20/15)
im pretty sad, i thought it was eye strain and i dont really want to wear glasses and contacts, so im thinking about possible lasik or related surgery in the future.
ive read the other 2 threads and they were pretty informative, but i dont know what the -3.5 business means. i think my right eye is 20/70, whats that in relation to the other way of scaling?
also, ive never had any vision problems in the past so i dont know really what my options are. ive been to the doc but not the optomotrist (he did some weird paper hole test and i could see fine through the holes with my impaired eye, so he said its near-sightedness). since my left eye is great and he said its not going to get short sighted, should i bother with getting glasses/contacts, and just wait until im eligible for surgery?
will using contacts disqualify me possibly for later lasik treatment? the doc said that no two eyes are the same but one of my eyes is pretty bad and the other one is really strong, is this normal?
since im 20/70 will lasik do anything? i dont expect to have perfect 20/20 vision, maybe 20/30?
i dont care if i have sore eyes or bleeding or dry eyes from the lasik surgery even if its for the rest of my life, i can deal with that and id much rather have that than be short sighted or dependant on lenses.
anyways, im going to the optometrist tomorrow to get analysed, can anyone share their knowledge with my since im a bit of a noob? itd make me feel a little better i guess, im a bit down right now
thanks
mike
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how much minus did you have?
I have -2.5 on my left and -2.25 on my right and I see pretty bad without contacts/glasses.
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i didnt have a minus thing, it said like 6 / 24 or something on the chart, i could read like the first 4 lines without the paper thingy
should i be worried that one eye is bad and the other eye is fine?
will surgery be able to at least partly help my eye? my parents have said they would pay it
also, what do you mean by pretty bad? can you read and play the computer fine without aid?
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Numbers such as "-2" are diopter measurements that provide information on the curvature of the lens itself. Numbers such as 20/XX means that at a distance of 20 meters you perceive objects as clearly as if it they were XX meters away from a standard eye that does not need glasses.
As for the main topic, you should ask a professional optometrist.
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yeah, im going tomorrow i was just curious about about the experiences and knowledge of it here. so theres no way i can ascertain what my minus thingy is from 20/70? id have to see a professional first?
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On November 30 2008 10:49 JohnColtrane wrote:
will surgery be able to at least partly help my eye? my parents have said they would pay it
I'm not sure how old you are, but keep in mind that getting eye surgery too young may cause complications as your eyes age (at least with the older procedures, not sure if that's still true now).
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sorry, i turned 18 last june
eh, it was like a 1d to 2d from the chart test, it definately wasnt as bad as a 3d
ive researched some sites and some say recipients should be 18+ and others 20+., i dont know anyone thats developed short sightedness at my current age, only people at at least a few years younger, so i was wondering how much longer itll take until it stops and i can get treatment (if i choose to)
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Lasik is not worth it if you only have 20/70 in one eye. It is new procedure and we don't know the long term effects yet. For all we know it could make people go blind 30 years after the operation.
Also, it is not worth having lasik when you are younger as your eyes will continue to change. If you develop vision problems later in life after having lasik, undergoing lasik again is not an option.
On November 30 2008 10:30 JohnColtrane wrote:
i dont care if i have sore eyes or bleeding or dry eyes from the lasik surgery even if its for the rest of my life, i can deal with that and id much rather have that than be short sighted or dependant on lenses.
This is a very naive outlook on your situation. With a single contact in your bad eye, the only side effect might be occasional itchiness/irritation of that eye. Why are you willing to accept chronic pain and discomfort over that?
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you should wait till you are at least 22+, because your eyes might continue to deteriorate over time and eventually stabilize(mine stabilized around 20 years old), go to optometrist each year check if is there is change to your eye sight; when it is stabilized, that is when you consult many optometrist as possible, never trust advices from just one optometrist. Do a lot of research on lasik because new technology is coming out all the time. Lastly, don't go to cheap places and don't expect the correction to last forever, chances are, you might not get 20/20 vision after and even if you do, you may need glasses for long distance reading, but ok for regular things.
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On November 30 2008 10:56 professorjoak wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2008 10:49 JohnColtrane wrote:
will surgery be able to at least partly help my eye? my parents have said they would pay it
I'm not sure how old you are, but keep in mind that getting eye surgery too young may cause complications as your eyes age (at least with the older procedures, not sure if that's still true now).
Yeah, even if the odds are low, why risk it? 20/70 isn't bad at all, and if it isn't affecting your ability to live normally, just wait for laser eye surgery to get better. My left eye is near-sighted similar to yours and doesn't give me any problems, although I do have prescription sunglasses that I use for driving. I don't need them, but if I'm wearing sunglasses, I may as well help my vision at the same time.
My brother recently had the surgery done, but he was something like 20/200 and needed contacts just to see normally.
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On November 30 2008 11:02 PiSan wrote:Lasik is not worth it if you only have 20/70 in one eye. It is new procedure and we don't know the long term effects yet. For all we know it could make people go blind 30 years after the operation. Also, it is not worth having lasik when you are younger as your eyes will continue to change. If you develop vision problems later in life after having lasik, undergoing lasik again is not an option. Show nested quote +On November 30 2008 10:30 JohnColtrane wrote:
i dont care if i have sore eyes or bleeding or dry eyes from the lasik surgery even if its for the rest of my life, i can deal with that and id much rather have that than be short sighted or dependant on lenses. This is a very naive outlook on your situation. With a single contact in your bad eye, the only side effect might be occasional itchiness/irritation of that eye. Why are you willing to accept chronic pain and discomfort over that?
i like the practicality of the surgery, i can go swim and play sport and stuff without any impaired vision. Yes, as long as the pain is not so severe that i cant make it out of bed in the morning itll be alright, tbh itd much more painful knowing that id have to rely on a contact to see out of my bad eye. so i take it, 20/70 is not THAT bad of a case of myopia?
in any case, in 30years ill be 50. even if i do go blind in 30 years, ill still have my good left eye, and id rather be mostly unrestricted when im a kid with the surgery and risk blindness in my right eye in the future. ill most likely need glasses in the future anyway, and i may not even like till im 50
sorry if i sound naive and stupid, im just a bit ticked off and sad right now, im trying to think things through but i guess i havent had enough time. also, if i do everything right with contacts, will it damage my eyes?
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On November 30 2008 11:07 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2008 11:02 PiSan wrote:Lasik is not worth it if you only have 20/70 in one eye. It is new procedure and we don't know the long term effects yet. For all we know it could make people go blind 30 years after the operation. Also, it is not worth having lasik when you are younger as your eyes will continue to change. If you develop vision problems later in life after having lasik, undergoing lasik again is not an option. On November 30 2008 10:30 JohnColtrane wrote:
i dont care if i have sore eyes or bleeding or dry eyes from the lasik surgery even if its for the rest of my life, i can deal with that and id much rather have that than be short sighted or dependant on lenses. This is a very naive outlook on your situation. With a single contact in your bad eye, the only side effect might be occasional itchiness/irritation of that eye. Why are you willing to accept chronic pain and discomfort over that? i like the practicality of the surgery, i can go swim and play sport and stuff without any impaired vision. Yes, as long as the pain is not so severe that i cant make it out of bed in the morning itll be alright, tbh itd much more painful knowing that id have to rely on a contact to see out of my bad eye. so i take it, 20/70 is not THAT bad of a case of myopia? in any case, in 30years ill be 50. even if i do go blind in 30 years, ill still have my good left eye, and id rather be mostly unrestricted when im a kid with the surgery and risk blindness in my right eye in the future. ill most likely need glasses in the future anyway, and i may not even like till im 50 sorry if i sound naive and stupid, im just a bit ticked off and sad right now, im trying to think things through but i guess i havent had enough time. also, if i do everything right with contacts, will it damage my eyes?
you are not only naive and also childish, you shouldn't be asking this kind of questions on TL, we can only provide some basic knowledge, if you want real and reliable answers, go to an optometrist on monday and ask all the questions you have asked here and more.
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On November 30 2008 11:06 ShadowDrgn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2008 10:56 professorjoak wrote:On November 30 2008 10:49 JohnColtrane wrote:
will surgery be able to at least partly help my eye? my parents have said they would pay it
I'm not sure how old you are, but keep in mind that getting eye surgery too young may cause complications as your eyes age (at least with the older procedures, not sure if that's still true now). Yeah, even if the odds are low, why risk it? 20/70 isn't bad at all, and if it isn't affecting your ability to live normally, just wait for laser eye surgery to get better. My left eye is near-sighted similar to yours and doesn't give me any problems, although I do have prescription sunglasses that I use for driving. I don't need them, but if I'm wearing sunglasses, I may as well help my vision at the same time. My brother recently had the surgery done, but he was something like 20/200 and needed contacts just to see normally.
thanks for the reply, yeah i know its a risk to get it done since its so new, what about the other related surgery?
i can drive and stuff fine, my other eye works good and i can even see number plates reasonably well with my bad eye but i wouldnt like to count on it when im driving
how is your brother? how old is he, and did he have both eyes done?
id like to get the surgery in the future, thats my aim, i dont mind wearing glasses or contacts until then but i think i can get by without them incase they limit my future eligibility for the it
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On November 30 2008 11:10 ilovehnk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2008 11:07 JohnColtrane wrote:On November 30 2008 11:02 PiSan wrote:Lasik is not worth it if you only have 20/70 in one eye. It is new procedure and we don't know the long term effects yet. For all we know it could make people go blind 30 years after the operation. Also, it is not worth having lasik when you are younger as your eyes will continue to change. If you develop vision problems later in life after having lasik, undergoing lasik again is not an option. On November 30 2008 10:30 JohnColtrane wrote:
i dont care if i have sore eyes or bleeding or dry eyes from the lasik surgery even if its for the rest of my life, i can deal with that and id much rather have that than be short sighted or dependant on lenses. This is a very naive outlook on your situation. With a single contact in your bad eye, the only side effect might be occasional itchiness/irritation of that eye. Why are you willing to accept chronic pain and discomfort over that? i like the practicality of the surgery, i can go swim and play sport and stuff without any impaired vision. Yes, as long as the pain is not so severe that i cant make it out of bed in the morning itll be alright, tbh itd much more painful knowing that id have to rely on a contact to see out of my bad eye. so i take it, 20/70 is not THAT bad of a case of myopia? in any case, in 30years ill be 50. even if i do go blind in 30 years, ill still have my good left eye, and id rather be mostly unrestricted when im a kid with the surgery and risk blindness in my right eye in the future. ill most likely need glasses in the future anyway, and i may not even like till im 50 sorry if i sound naive and stupid, im just a bit ticked off and sad right now, im trying to think things through but i guess i havent had enough time. also, if i do everything right with contacts, will it damage my eyes? you are not only naive and also childish, you shouldn't be asking this kind of questions on TL, we can only provide some basic knowledge, if you want real and reliable answers, go to an optometrist on monday and ask all the questions you have asked here and more.
steady on, i am going to an opto tomorrow, and i AM going to be asking these questions, i just wanted some opinions and some questions answered, of course im not going to base my decision on what TL.net says, but i like this community and since i have a half day of spare time i thought, why not ask? maybe some people have had similar experiences and can share that with me
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you are too impulsive, did you even read what I have said ? you don't want to fuck up now and regret for life.I felt like I just wasted a lot of time writing all these shit you.
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On November 30 2008 11:13 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2008 11:10 ilovehnk wrote:On November 30 2008 11:07 JohnColtrane wrote:On November 30 2008 11:02 PiSan wrote:Lasik is not worth it if you only have 20/70 in one eye. It is new procedure and we don't know the long term effects yet. For all we know it could make people go blind 30 years after the operation. Also, it is not worth having lasik when you are younger as your eyes will continue to change. If you develop vision problems later in life after having lasik, undergoing lasik again is not an option. On November 30 2008 10:30 JohnColtrane wrote:
i dont care if i have sore eyes or bleeding or dry eyes from the lasik surgery even if its for the rest of my life, i can deal with that and id much rather have that than be short sighted or dependant on lenses. This is a very naive outlook on your situation. With a single contact in your bad eye, the only side effect might be occasional itchiness/irritation of that eye. Why are you willing to accept chronic pain and discomfort over that? i like the practicality of the surgery, i can go swim and play sport and stuff without any impaired vision. Yes, as long as the pain is not so severe that i cant make it out of bed in the morning itll be alright, tbh itd much more painful knowing that id have to rely on a contact to see out of my bad eye. so i take it, 20/70 is not THAT bad of a case of myopia? in any case, in 30years ill be 50. even if i do go blind in 30 years, ill still have my good left eye, and id rather be mostly unrestricted when im a kid with the surgery and risk blindness in my right eye in the future. ill most likely need glasses in the future anyway, and i may not even like till im 50 sorry if i sound naive and stupid, im just a bit ticked off and sad right now, im trying to think things through but i guess i havent had enough time. also, if i do everything right with contacts, will it damage my eyes? you are not only naive and also childish, you shouldn't be asking this kind of questions on TL, we can only provide some basic knowledge, if you want real and reliable answers, go to an optometrist on monday and ask all the questions you have asked here and more. steady on, i am going to an opto tomorrow, and i AM going to be asking these questions, i just wanted some opinions and some questions answered, of course im not going to base my decision on what TL.net says, but i like this community and since i have a half day of spare time i thought, why not ask? maybe some people have had similar experiences and can share that with me
You want professional advices, and people here on TL have subjective views. Even if someone had lasik here, can you expect that the individual have similar genetics and eye problem as you?
The results of lasik will vary from person to person and from surgeon to surgeon. I am not even in a hurry to get lasik, because once you have it, you can't undone it...
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look pal, like i said, i was only after mainly opinions and some clarity on a few subjects, like the lens curvature thing.
ill tell you what i would regret, missing out on a surgery that could fix my eyes for my entire childhood and a large part of my adult years. even if i did go blind when im 50, i still have my left eye and i dont care if you think thats a stupid way to look at things but the truth is id rather have an unhindered life from my 20s to my 40s and lose half my sight when im a doddery old man. chances are ill lose half my sight when im an old man
sorry if you are offended, may i ask if you have the problem in both eyes? the only fuckup i can see happening is if the surgery WORSENS my eyesight in the short term, even if it doesnt do anything to my eyes and just leaves them the way they are i dont see that as a fuckup, just that i failed to gain anything.
of course im going to consult an opto and if he recommends i dont get surgery then i wont. ill look into other options
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On November 30 2008 11:11 JohnColtrane wrote:
how is your brother? how old is he, and did he have both eyes done?
He's 29 and I believe he had both eyes done. Honestly, we live on opposite sides of the country and don't talk much, but as far as I know he's very happy with the results. In 10-20 years, who knows, but for him it was the difference between having normal vision and being half-blind without contacts in. I'm not even considering it because my vision problems aren't affecting my quality of life, and you seem to be in the same position.
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what do you mean, in 10-20 years? is that the projected length of lasik fixing his vision?
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