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Suggestion Box you have reverted to insulting the intelligence of everyone who answered your thread. If we aren't good enough for you, then just stop posting on TL.
I look up on this page and I see lots of people spending a lot of time to formulate good arguments and you attack them.
One last thing: you say that my post was arrogant, but basically every other person who has commented was of the opinion that in fact tika's response was arrogant. I personally know what my intentions were in writing, and it was to share my analysis of my experience of a situation similar to his. True, I didn't think of telling the story, and yes, I would have gotten into it had he asked.
So, who is right here: you who insult me, or everyone else who says I was trying to be helpful? Even tika thanked me for my positive attitude. To me the answer is clear. I know I won't get anywhere arguing with you. I don't even know what we would be hoping to achieve. I have the utmost respect for you in trying to defend your friend (I'm guessing he's your friend). Now let's turn the page and talk about something else.
Goodnight.
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On November 14 2008 00:22 Suggestion Box wrote:
Sure tika deserved to be banned. But was he the only one?
For some reason the more I read this thread it seems like the point of its creation was to attempt to call out a ban on those who got upset with tika. Maybe he didn't deserve a perma-ban, maybe he did, I'm not a moderator and that's not my decision to make. I do think that his posts were becoming a detriment to the site and needed to be dealt with in some manner or another.
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On November 14 2008 13:28 CFDragon wrote:
For some reason the more I read this thread it seems like the point of its creation was to attempt to call out a ban on those who got upset with tika. Maybe he didn't deserve a perma-ban, maybe he did, I'm not a moderator and that's not my decision to make. I do think that his posts were becoming a detriment to the site and needed to be dealt with in some manner or another.
No one got banned for their posts. Tika got banned cuz he harassed Hot_Bid repeatedly through other channels.
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And he had been previously banned.
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So Yango you are saying girls specifically are too popular or not popular enough for General--they are blogs--even though there are many blogs, I mean posts, on girls, in general.
You also said it's not about the girls. It's the way his post was. Well, correct me if this is way off base, but tika's OP in question here provided a story on a subject, and asked others for theirs. That seems like not only a form typical in General but also one typical of every single thread with a poll. He was basically taking a poll, but no one participated and everyone got pissed at him for not taking his advice that he had zero interest in right from the outset (clearly).
Imagine you make a topic about cars. You talk about a specific car recently, all the details. You want to hear others' stories about cars, not any advice. You say this specifically. They all respond with "you should x y z" and when he isn't interested in that advice they start getting insulted and saying he's a kid and shit like that, so then he insults them and they are like "WOW YOU HAVE A BIG EGO YOU LOSER"? And you're saying it has to be a blog?
His thread wasn't any different than, I've been watching C-SPAN lately (long paragraph sharing), what have you been watching? Please don't tell me what to watch just tell me your experiences.
That's not a blog.
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If you enter an online forum such as TL you accept the established rules of such community.
He was told that such thread was blog material and should not be in the general section, but he wasnt mature enough to accept it, so he kept going.
He refused to accept the TL rules because of his arrogance and got banned, end of story.
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On November 14 2008 19:35 Suggestion Box wrote:
Imagine you make a topic about cars. You talk about a specific car recently, all the details. You want to hear others' stories about cars, not any advice. You say this specifically. They all respond with "you should x y z" and when he isn't interested in that advice they start getting insulted and saying he's a kid and shit like that, so then he insults them and they are like "WOW YOU HAVE A BIG EGO YOU LOSER"? And you're saying it has to be a blog?
If that's the response you get, yes. The general community is clearly not interested in discussing it, so it shouldn't take up space in the general forum.
On November 14 2008 19:35 Suggestion Box wrote:
His thread wasn't any different than, I've been watching C-SPAN lately (long paragraph sharing), what have you been watching? Please don't tell me what to watch just tell me your experiences.
That's not a blog.
Depends. If people want to discuss it, then fine, put it in general. If the majority of people don't want to hear about it, stick it in blogs. I understand that's a rather hand-wavy way of deciding what's blog and what's general, but if you don't like it, there's always GG.net.
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You guys are talking out of your ass. Those aren't TL's rules they're shit you made up.
and BTW you have no idea whether the General community was interested in discussing it, because a mod moved it. it seems like lots of people wanted to post--so much so that you guys want to keep talking about things there in this blog even though that's clearly not what the OP intended. there's no way you can say we had any evidence of disinterest to warrant moving it to the blog. imo tika's post in general is analagous to many typical general threads, and you haven't told me any criteria to rule it out other than some bs that makes no sense.
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On November 15 2008 08:27 Suggestion Box wrote:
You guys are talking out of your ass. Those aren't TL's rules they're shit you made up.
I didn't move the thread. The mods did. They're the ones that decide the rules, and they're the ones that decide which threads are worthy of General or of Blogs. I'm merely observing trends. One such trend is that threads that cause this much flaming either get moved or put in blogs, depending on what the content is. In case you didn't notice, the 10 Commandments that you quoted aren't followed word-for-word 100% of the time (why do you think Inc is still here?  ). What the mods say goes.
On November 15 2008 08:27 Suggestion Box wrote:
and BTW you have no idea whether the General community was interested in discussing it, because a mod moved it.
In case you didn't notice, tika remade the thread in General, so yes, we can infer that the General community didn't want to discuss it given the amount of negative responses it received.
On November 15 2008 08:27 Suggestion Box wrote:
it seems like lots of people wanted to post--so much so that you guys want to keep talking about things there in this blog even though that's clearly not what the OP intended. there's no way you can say we had any evidence of disinterest to warrant moving it to the blog. imo tika's post in general is analagous to many typical general threads, and you haven't told me any criteria to rule it out other than some bs that makes no sense.
Just because we want to post ABOUT the thread doesn't mean we're in any way interested in the actual discussion. Like I said, I could care less about his, or anyone else's personal problems.
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So now responses are proof that people don't want to discuss it?
If it weren't for mod interference tika would have a General therad on page 50 by now. I'm not saying mods were wrong (at all!) only that you guys saying it was moved to blogs for some cut and dry reason (which keeps changing) are talking out of your asses. If his thread wasn't about girls (and other similar "personal" "emo" "bloggy" topics) it wouldn't have been moved. I can't see any other thread with a similar form, but a different subject, being moved to blogs. Yes some girl threads stay, but I think other threads JUST LIKE tika's, stay also, if they aren't about girls.
There are three main parts to an OP. First, the subject. Sometimes people only offer a subject, and then they get flamed (often this is a youtube video or a link). The second part is the OP's response to it. Sometimes a blog only has these two parts, but sometimes a real thread does too. The third part is when the OP asks for responses or otherwise provides some clear direction for responses to go in. Often this part is assumed, but if this part is spelled out then in my mind you have a complete thread. And if it's not about girls, there's no way it will be moved to blogs.
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I had written an explanation here for why it should be a blog, but I've decided to delete it. It doesn't matter why. Even you agree that the mods were right. The gods have spoken. Let's get over it.
We are fussing way too much about this. I guess I am guilty too, since I keep on checking if there are new posts. Perhaps our time would be better spent reading the strategy forum or posting pictures of our cats on 4chan...
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Probably. I think that one guy above was right, I only think more people were guilty than tika in that thread. Not all of the people shitting on tika, necessarily, but some of the ones who just sucked bad... need to be bitch slapped, but TL doesn't do this.
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Well life isn't fair, and the internet only exaggerates.
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Thanks Nytefish bu I wasn't asking for life to be fair, only sharing an observation.
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I don't want to sound callous like most other responses, but it's the internet. If you're looking for genuine sympathy and understanding, you'll find that people are always nicer and more human in real life. On an internet forum you'll find it very hard to get someone to care about your problems, especially if they're not in a similar position.
Tika posting on an intense Starcraft forum ... not a good idea. Life isn't fair, but the blog section belongs to better things than just complaining and expecting to be understood. We all face difficult things in life, it's just a matter of learning when to quit and go in a new direction.
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