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imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
October 14 2008 03:43 GMT
#1
First off it's not a rant; i'm just frustrated. Having below 40% or something win rate against terran isn't bad for me. I don't care about it; but it's the way I've been beaten.

I'm a protoss user, so 1a2a3a does work sometimes, especially at my level. But, the matchup has been killing my confidence. I get raped either one of two ways:

1) Terran does some quick vulture harass after FD, followed with tanks and vults to use the timing window. I have absolutely no idea when to get leg speed, and playing with reavers just seem to fuck it up more because I can't control it very well.
2) He camps, taking his third, waits for 2/2 upgrades then pushes out with 200/200 supply. I have half the map, so around 20-25 gates in total with arbs (hate carriers), but upgraded tanks just melt pretty much anything.

Basically, I just want C to C+ levelled Terran players that are willing to play me in the weekend on iCCup.

and also, I saw something about op tl-train? where players get together and train specific builds over and over again. I went there and there was one person who was afk T-T

blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
October 14 2008 03:50 GMT
#2
All but one of my losses to terran were bunker rushes [zerg], fucking terrans.
Can you dig it?
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 14 2008 03:53 GMT
#3
Start playing Terran if you think it's so easy Or just steal their gas every game and go hard pressure.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
October 14 2008 04:02 GMT
#4
I"ll play you sometimes, add me on iccup gNs.I-Yang, or you can find me on east with the same username. I can only play on weekends too, so its good.... ^^
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
October 14 2008 04:12 GMT
#5
On October 14 2008 12:53 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Start playing Terran if you think it's so easy Or just steal their gas every game and go hard pressure.


QFT.

Practicing Terran diligently was the best thing I did for my PvT.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24700 Posts
October 14 2008 04:12 GMT
#6
On October 14 2008 12:50 ScarFace wrote:
All but one of my losses to terran were bunker rushes [zerg], fucking terrans.

You fail at dealing with bunker rushes perhaps? That's the terrans' fault?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
October 14 2008 04:14 GMT
#7
haha does practicing terran actually work? I heard it does show weaknesses of builds, certain timings etc. But wouldn't it be better to practice PvT rather than learn TvP time wise?

I tried TvP, it's so easy to get out macroed when I play..;

anyway ypang i will definitely msg you for some games xD

any more!?
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
October 14 2008 04:18 GMT
#8
On October 14 2008 12:53 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Start playing Terran if you think it's so easy Or just steal their gas every game and go hard pressure.


I'm wondering if you ever read an OP before you post
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 14 2008 04:19 GMT
#9
the other nice thing about playing a heck of a lot of tvp is that you get more apm when you go back to toss. The reason being that T forces you to work on your mechanics.

Just another reason to try it out.
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
October 14 2008 04:23 GMT
#10
On October 14 2008 13:14 imperfect wrote:
haha does practicing terran actually work? I heard it does show weaknesses of builds, certain timings etc. But wouldn't it be better to practice PvT rather than learn TvP time wise?

I tried TvP, it's so easy to get out macroed when I play..;

anyway ypang i will definitely msg you for some games xD

any more!?


mind telling me ur iccup name?
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 14 2008 04:40 GMT
#11
lolol

he camps until 200 supply?

honestly if hes going to push that late, you should have plenty of time to out expo him and tech to carriers or arbiters
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
dream-_-
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1857 Posts
October 14 2008 04:50 GMT
#12
ill play some tvps if you tell me your iccup name
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
October 14 2008 19:46 GMT
#13
On October 14 2008 13:40 fusionsdf wrote:
lolol

he camps until 200 supply?

honestly if hes going to push that late, you should have plenty of time to out expo him and tech to carriers or arbiters


yeah i know i suck. that's why i'm frustrated, because 200/200 should be relatively easy to beat, at least at my level.

btw, my iccup name is

be..

looking forward to good games~
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
October 14 2008 20:53 GMT
#14
On October 14 2008 13:12 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2008 12:50 ScarFace wrote:
All but one of my losses to terran were bunker rushes [zerg], fucking terrans.

You fail at dealing with bunker rushes perhaps? That's the terrans' fault?
Obviously its my fault I fail to bunker rushes...but its the terrans who actually refuse to go standard, cause they're a bunch of cheesy fucks.
Can you dig it?
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
October 16 2008 11:19 GMT
#15
On October 14 2008 12:43 imperfect wrote:

2) He camps, taking his third, waits for 2/2 upgrades then pushes out with 200/200 supply. I have half the map, so around 20-25 gates in total with arbs (hate carriers), but upgraded tanks just melt pretty much anything.


You may be able to fast aribter with recall if they camp that long. When he moves out, do a massive recall. He is force to defend or fight in a losing position. Dont forget to storm tanks if you have to engage the push.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
October 16 2008 11:59 GMT
#16
PvT is easy mode.

Seriously

I'm a protoss user and I still say this. Sure, I'm sick and tired of people saying protoss is easy mode... fucking bullshit.

It's not. PvT, however, is. IMO PvT on maps like python is slightly imbalanced. It's all about the laziness. I'm usually too lazy to use high templar/etc with my army, so I just go all out macro zeals and goons, and can usually win this way. If not, I get some arbiters, recall>gg.

However, against a better terran opponent this begins to fail, but it's still pretty easy to win if you just stop being lazy and have more micro like include high templar in your army, zealot bombs, arbiters, maybe even reavers, etc.

Dark archons with mind control aren't exactly cost effective, but depending on the situation they can be amazing. They can feedback vessels lategame, and if you mind control a tank in a group of other tanks it's even better than a zealot bomb.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24700 Posts
October 16 2008 14:39 GMT
#17
On October 15 2008 05:53 ScarFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2008 13:12 micronesia wrote:
On October 14 2008 12:50 ScarFace wrote:
All but one of my losses to terran were bunker rushes [zerg], fucking terrans.

You fail at dealing with bunker rushes perhaps? That's the terrans' fault?
Obviously its my fault I fail to bunker rushes...but its the terrans who actually refuse to go standard, cause they're a bunch of cheesy fucks.

It's barely a cheese.... especially if you don't learn how to deal with such a simple tactic. Why shouldn't they bunker rush? It's immediately scout-able by the zerg so practice it.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
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