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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
September 30 2008 17:16 GMT
#21
The map cycle will be announced on Oct 10th, meaning that the specific maps that will be played for each specific match will be announced then. The map pool is as I said and that PDF was last modified September 26 so I'm pretty sure that's what they're sticking to now.

For anyone wondering, you can find the National Final rules and the Grand Final rules here: http://www.wcg.com/6th/2008/games/officialgames.asp?selgame=2
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Power[Xp]
Profile Joined July 2007
Netherlands64 Posts
September 30 2008 17:18 GMT
#22
BS/Othello/Andromeda usually require a Macro-type of play, hard to cheese on those Maps, maybe Blue Storm, but most players scout really well on that Map. I think it's good to change a few Maps, all those New Maps come with boring Macro-style games, but this new map pool sucks as well, Python is so overplayed.

They should just use the Maps Silent Vortex, Gorky, Vertigo, Korhal of Ceres and Gaema Gowon for some old skool (Terran) ownage
Anyway, only good map I see in this Map Pool is Peaks, I like that Map
Power[Xp]
Profile Joined July 2007
Netherlands64 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-30 17:20:02
September 30 2008 17:18 GMT
#23
Double Post, remove it please
_Grazze_
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
834 Posts
September 30 2008 17:19 GMT
#24
I just hate troy, that map is sooooo boring/bad/gay in every way

Well, atleast they're not using maps such as Azalea and Gaia again.
Imo they should just keep up a bit better with the evolution of maps, I mean they used Aza, Gaia and Paranoid Android for like, forever?!

Maps such as Othello or Andromeda, those are fairly new atleast. WCG is probably the biggest event for SC so they should really step up and stop acting like Cpt_Obvious
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
September 30 2008 17:21 GMT
#25
I think any player going to WCG should just be glad they aren't a zerg playing on korhal of ceres / gorky island / jungle story / paranoid android (especially at 3:00 LoL).
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LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
September 30 2008 17:28 GMT
#26
Man at least WCG is somewhat updating their maps. Better than playing on PA, Azalea, or Gaia, AGAIN.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
September 30 2008 17:33 GMT
#27
Indeed, OSL and MSL hand-me-downs are a lot better than WCG-exclusives.

Nevertheless, I don't know why WCG doesn't just take a batch of the current promaps instead. Are they so out-of-touch with their player base that they think we actually want old promaps like these? Or is it possible OGN and MBCGame won't let WCG use their current maps, or would charge WCG money to use them? I remember when PGT and WGT wanted to use their maps, the mapmakers were VERY protective and restrictive of their maps, so if they're blocking WCG from using current maps then it wouldn't surprise me. =P
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-30 17:35:27
September 30 2008 17:34 GMT
#28
WCG maps are Othello, Blue Storm, Andromeda and Troy.


[edit]
Removed question mark.
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-30 17:58:42
September 30 2008 17:57 GMT
#29
On October 01 2008 02:34 BlackStar wrote:
WCG maps are Othello, Blue Storm, Andromeda and Troy.


[edit]
Removed question mark.


Where are you getting your information? Did you read the official WCG pdf?

I'm sick of Peaks. Tau is a nice choice. RoV may be imbalanced in favor of Protoss given the current strategy paradigm, particularly PvZ.
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
September 30 2008 18:00 GMT
#30
I think it's a decent map pool, tho Troy is the worst map i've ever seen.
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
September 30 2008 18:31 GMT
#31
On October 01 2008 02:57 ahole-surprise wrote:
Where are you getting your information?


Download the mappack for SC on the international WCG site.

Remember the Korean qualifiers? Which maps did they use? Right. Download some replays from national WCGs. Maps were changed on june 27 or something. Most nationals changed their mappools at that point. I played the new maps just 2 weeks after the change. I just saw that US didn't change the maps, which surprised me.


Now maybe they changed the maps for a 3rd time. But then I ask where this info comes from. I went to the official site and I saw nothing mentioning the change.
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
September 30 2008 18:34 GMT
#32
On October 01 2008 03:31 BlackStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2008 02:57 ahole-surprise wrote:
Where are you getting your information?




Remember the Korean qualifiers? Which maps did they use? Right.

Now maybe they changed the maps for a 3rd time. But then I ask where this info comes from. I went to the official site and I saw nothing mentioning the change.


Yeah, I knew that the maps you listed were considered the maps up until recently. I was asking what counterevidence you had to the newly updated official WCG pdf saying that the maps were BS, Python, Peaks, etc, you smug bastard.

Did you even check the link to the PDF in this thread, the same PDF that Nony mentioned as being the source of his information? Right.
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-30 18:43:46
September 30 2008 18:39 GMT
#33
I didn't read the rules because I downloaded the mappack. So they say different things. They either forgot to update the mappack recently. Or they forgot to update the pdf a whole long time ago.

Rules is noted as 1.0. So unless they didn't have rules up before it's just old rules that weren't updated when WCG Korea decided on the maps, which were copied by WCG international.


Anyway, it's kind of strange. RoV? I remember they first updated to Blue Storm, Python, Gaia, Tau Cross and Peaks. The maps that are still the WCG US maps.

You never know with WCG. For WCG US they may very well set up the computers for the matches, go to the official site to download the mappack and thus download Othello, Andromeda, etc.
Juanpe
Profile Joined May 2008
Uruguay283 Posts
September 30 2008 19:09 GMT
#34
No Othello or Andromeda ??

And btw, acceptable pool, too bad that Python sucks and RoV it´s way too old, but bleh, it´s not the end of the world.
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ryung70
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Germany227 Posts
September 30 2008 19:24 GMT
#35
lol i don't think all wcg participants know that the mappool got changed
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-30 19:55:30
September 30 2008 19:47 GMT
#36
*WOW*

This is the most boring map pool EVER. I'm not even sure I'll bother watching WCG..

None of the maps are bad per se, but talk about overplayed - and to add insult to injury they include both blue storm and ride of valkyries, maps which - in PvZ anyway - play quite similiarily (at least in longer games and my limited experience).

Blah, I feel for you, petition time imo.

EDIT:

The map-list in Blackstar's post is marginally better, but I'm not looking forward to games on blue storm or troy.

EDIT: WCG was many times cooler when they had their own set of maps, even the imbalanced ones ;o
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o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-30 19:55:35
September 30 2008 19:54 GMT
#37
I miss the old maps, but this is a bit too much I think... There should be at least a couple of the newer maps in the WCG map pool. I'm not very knowlegable about the game so i cant comment much on imbalance, but stats show that it IS slightly imbalanced for protoss (edit: except PvT on tau )...
Tibs
Profile Joined October 2006
United States148 Posts
September 30 2008 20:05 GMT
#38
They should just go back way back in the day.

Paranoid/Gaia/Azaela

Maybe put in Dahlia of Jungle/Gorky/Estrella/Martian Cross
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 30 2008 20:06 GMT
#39
On October 01 2008 03:39 BlackStar wrote:
I didn't read the rules because I downloaded the mappack. So they say different things. They either forgot to update the mappack recently. Or they forgot to update the pdf a whole long time ago.

Rules is noted as 1.0. So unless they didn't have rules up before it's just old rules that weren't updated when WCG Korea decided on the maps, which were copied by WCG international.


Anyway, it's kind of strange. RoV? I remember they first updated to Blue Storm, Python, Gaia, Tau Cross and Peaks. The maps that are still the WCG US maps.

You never know with WCG. For WCG US they may very well set up the computers for the matches, go to the official site to download the mappack and thus download Othello, Andromeda, etc.

wcg usa is using othello andro troy blue.
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
September 30 2008 21:25 GMT
#40
Well, they still have the old maps in their rules pdf. And apparently the rules in the pdf on the international site were the source for this blog post. So one should ignore these rule pdfs for sure, it seems. I remember one where it said the matches were supposed to be played at normal speed.
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