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Original Message HeavOnEarth)
When i was mass gaming on iCCup(at the start of the season), i was literally the only C-, and there were no others to play. O_o I dislike personal agendas with no feasible supporting facts, and if you jump to conclusions on another post on my blog, you are banned, simple as that.
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Original MessageXeris- reply)
oh by the way, please don't give me this "there was no people to play when I was mass gaming at the beginning of the season" garbage... every game you played this week at C rank was vs D opponents. I don't have personal agendas, I don't even know you, but I hate people who make something stupid like a blog post bragging about being #1 in USA and bashing D ranks to get there. go get some real accomplishment before you go bragging on your blogs.
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What xeris is trying to say is, without the spamming of curse words is "HeavOnEarth is a noob".
Awesome.
Never thought i was great at sc, nor did i think i boasted in the manner Xeris seemed to have implied, but to any and all denizens of TL,
Sorry if i was putting forth that message
Here was the alleged blog post where "I was bragging my leet skills",
http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=72547
So on the weekend when iCCup started, i mass gamed, and got #1. That was all it was pertaining to, and when i lost the placing, i don't think i really "bragged" about it thereafter, if i have at all.
So, i don't really get the insult, but thanks for your "respectful and mannered" insight, nonetheless.
  
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it would've been better if you didn't even make this blog :D
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On June 13 2008 18:11 Worked! wrote:
get over yourself
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Why should he? He was #1 for however long and has the right to brag all he wants no matter how he got there. There are no rules against playing D players when you're C- and maybe he feels he is still on the D level. I'm not saying if you're a C- playing a D is going to help you, because it wont, but if he just wanted to mass game and it was easier to find D opponents who cares? He wasn't doing it to be #1, he doesn't consider himself that good, he just wanted to play a lot and is trying to get better. By chance he played enough games / won enough to be #1 for a while. Also, its the D players fault for gaming him, they can see his rating and know he's way higher than them, but they still played, so he didn't trick them into it or anything.
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On June 13 2008 18:18 .kaz wrote:?.? Why should he? He was #1 for however long and has the right to brag all he wants no matter how he got there. There are no rules against playing D players when you're C- and maybe he feels he is still on the D level. I'm not saying if you're a C- playing a D is going to help you, because it wont, but if he just wanted to mass game and it was easier to find D opponents who cares? He wasn't doing it to be #1, he doesn't consider himself that good, he just wanted to play a lot and is trying to get better. By chance he played enough games / won enough to be #1 for a while. Also, its the D players fault for gaming him, they can see his rating and know he's way higher than them, but they still played, so he didn't trick them into it or anything.
Word.
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At least for those few unlucky bastards that didn't get to know about your heavenly (pun totally unintended;)) accomplishment yet, there's this new blog post.
At least they know too know now that you had #1, right?
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I dunno about the bragging but there's nothing wrong with taking pride at having the #1 spot ^^.
And also about "noobbashing," maybe you were, maybe you weren't, considering it's the start of the season those "D" rank players you are playing could all be A++++ rank fuck knows lol. so the quality of "D" rank player you were "bashing" could actually be pretty good 
obviously, if at the end of the season those guys are like D- or still D/D+ -> then lol, it was n00b bashing supreme ^^ lol
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Take your drama elsewhere, jesus christ you're pathetic. Xeris' pm was spot on I don't know what you're trying to accomplish with this "reveal". If you're looking for sympathy from retards who can't think for themselves I suggest myspace.
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United States24678 Posts
No, this shows how people get too worked up over iccup. You point something fun/silly out and everyone just attacks you. .kaz is right.
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CA10828 Posts
lol why are people attacking this guy? it isn't like he did anything wrong.
but still it would have been better if you hadn't made this blog entry.
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Dont see why he's being attacked either,being number 1 on iccup even for an hour or something would be a big personal acomplishment in my book
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couldn't you just settle this among yourselves with more pms? instead of show casing your little back and forth with xeris.
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go fuck yourself.
jk.
#1 is a feat even if you bash D-'s, look at the determination. took a screenie?
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Whoever gets a rank by playing people 2-3 ranks below them are kinda stupid and shouldn't even brag or mention their rank.
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On June 13 2008 18:18 .kaz wrote:?.? Why should he? He was #1 for however long and has the right to brag all he wants no matter how he got there. There are no rules against playing D players when you're C- and maybe he feels he is still on the D level. I'm not saying if you're a C- playing a D is going to help you, because it wont, but if he just wanted to mass game and it was easier to find D opponents who cares? He wasn't doing it to be #1, he doesn't consider himself that good, he just wanted to play a lot and is trying to get better. By chance he played enough games / won enough to be #1 for a while. Also, its the D players fault for gaming him, they can see his rating and know he's way higher than them, but they still played, so he didn't trick them into it or anything.
lmao, being #1 US for the first day is about as big of an accomplishment as letting a big fart rip.
and that is not actually why I said he should get over himself, its the fact he actually thinks people care and keeps making blogs.
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if you dont care why are you reading this, go somewhere else and let him blog what he wants
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CA10828 Posts
On June 13 2008 20:21 Worked! wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2008 18:18 .kaz wrote:On June 13 2008 18:11 Worked! wrote:
get over yourself ?.? Why should he? He was #1 for however long and has the right to brag all he wants no matter how he got there. There are no rules against playing D players when you're C- and maybe he feels he is still on the D level. I'm not saying if you're a C- playing a D is going to help you, because it wont, but if he just wanted to mass game and it was easier to find D opponents who cares? He wasn't doing it to be #1, he doesn't consider himself that good, he just wanted to play a lot and is trying to get better. By chance he played enough games / won enough to be #1 for a while. Also, its the D players fault for gaming him, they can see his rating and know he's way higher than them, but they still played, so he didn't trick them into it or anything. lmao, being #1 US for the first day is about as big of an accomplishment as letting a big fart rip. and that is not actually why I said he should get over himself, its the fact he actually thinks people care and keeps making blogs.
obviously some people did care, because the vast majority of replies on his blog were not flames.
look, this guy openly admits he knows he's not anywhere close to #1 USA bw player or anything. where are you getting the idea that he's full of himself? i know i suck at bw, but if i happened to go 14-0 at the start of a season and hit #1 USA on iccup ladder i would be happy too.
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On June 13 2008 18:11 Worked! wrote:
get over yourself
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lol wow thats kinda sad Xeris...nothing better to do than try to start an argument with someone becasue you didn't like his blog. Some people take things way to seriously. ;/
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
ur ok
ignore da haterz yo
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i don't take things way too seriously, I could care less but if some dude who clearly just newb bashes decides to make public statements about their "accomplishments" I'll attack them for it.
the argument for playing D ranks at the beginning of the season because theyre "most likely A ranks last season" is also totally invalid. most D rank players are actually D rank players.
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I love you Nam, don't let these haters get you down!
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i don't take things way too seriously, I could care less but if some dude who clearly just newb bashes decides to make public statements about their "accomplishments" I'll attack them for it.
Thank God we have people like you to defend the internets.
That said, this should have been kept to PMs.
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i wasnt the one who blogged about PMs i received lol
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Why would you attack him for it? He obviously knows hes not playing "top players" and every1 who looks at his match list knows that...its not like hes trying to hide it... he was just excited he was #1 for a while. Who wouldn't be? Leave the poor guy alone. I'm sure he knows hes not really the best in america or anything jeesh.
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why? because if everyone has to make blogs every time something good happens to them then this site is going to get so filled with bullshit blogs from kids...
if you know your aren't #1 or even close to being a top gamer, why would you be excited about temporarily being #1 for the first day of a ladder? if it's like after 1 month and he's been working really hard and maintained a top spot, then I'd say "wow congrats thats cool you worked so hard and it paid off" .. but no... it's like this "im going to beat D ranks because I'm not confident in my skill to play people the same rank as me, but now that I'm #1 I'm going to go blog it because WOOOOOOO Im number #1... ps... I still suck, but I'm #1 in US right now!"
could you imagine if every person wanted to blog their minimal accomplishments on TL.net ?
I could write : "OMG TL.net I just beat Machine and ash.sonic each 2-0 at a LAN IM SO COOL because the highest rank I could ever get on a ladder is C+ I'm newb but I beat some gosus with super luck at a LAN, GO ME!"
or it could degenerate further...
RandomNewb1: "Dear TL.net ... I just got my first blowjob today, WOW IM PRO look at me".
that's why I'd attack him for it.
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I'd say as much praise as he's receiving, he's bound to at least a lesser amount of criticism as Xeris is doing.
Also, the pm conversation should have been kept between the two. Heaven, you are a douchebag for bringing that out here.
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On June 13 2008 18:23 HypnoticPoo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2008 18:18 .kaz wrote:On June 13 2008 18:11 Worked! wrote:
get over yourself ?.? Why should he? He was #1 for however long and has the right to brag all he wants no matter how he got there. There are no rules against playing D players when you're C- and maybe he feels he is still on the D level. I'm not saying if you're a C- playing a D is going to help you, because it wont, but if he just wanted to mass game and it was easier to find D opponents who cares? He wasn't doing it to be #1, he doesn't consider himself that good, he just wanted to play a lot and is trying to get better. By chance he played enough games / won enough to be #1 for a while. Also, its the D players fault for gaming him, they can see his rating and know he's way higher than them, but they still played, so he didn't trick them into it or anything. Word.
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HATERS
nobody ever said you cant play lower ranks
I remember some kid a few seasons back who played nothing but d/d- with losing records in 2v2 he was like 550-40 or somthin b- hah
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On June 14 2008 03:05 Xeris wrote:
why? because if everyone has to make blogs every time something good happens to them then this site is going to get so filled with bullshit blogs from kids...
if you know your aren't #1 or even close to being a top gamer, why would you be excited about temporarily being #1 for the first day of a ladder? if it's like after 1 month and he's been working really hard and maintained a top spot, then I'd say "wow congrats thats cool you worked so hard and it paid off" .. but no... it's like this "im going to beat D ranks because I'm not confident in my skill to play people the same rank as me, but now that I'm #1 I'm going to go blog it because WOOOOOOO Im number #1... ps... I still suck, but I'm #1 in US right now!"
could you imagine if every person wanted to blog their minimal accomplishments on TL.net ?
I could write : "OMG TL.net I just beat Machine and ash.sonic each 2-0 at a LAN IM SO COOL because the highest rank I could ever get on a ladder is C+ I'm newb but I beat some gosus with super luck at a LAN, GO ME!"
or it could degenerate further...
RandomNewb1: "Dear TL.net ... I just got my first blowjob today, WOW IM PRO look at me".
that's why I'd attack him for it.
Yes hes an idiot for posting his "minimal accomplishments" on TL.net but you are even more of an idiot for pming him about it, being an asshole to him, and giving him the attention hes craving.
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United States3573 Posts
Xeris is just jealous he was never #1 in USA, maybe if you weren't so BM he'd train you.
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On June 14 2008 05:31 mousey.rr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2008 03:05 Xeris wrote:
why? because if everyone has to make blogs every time something good happens to them then this site is going to get so filled with bullshit blogs from kids...
if you know your aren't #1 or even close to being a top gamer, why would you be excited about temporarily being #1 for the first day of a ladder? if it's like after 1 month and he's been working really hard and maintained a top spot, then I'd say "wow congrats thats cool you worked so hard and it paid off" .. but no... it's like this "im going to beat D ranks because I'm not confident in my skill to play people the same rank as me, but now that I'm #1 I'm going to go blog it because WOOOOOOO Im number #1... ps... I still suck, but I'm #1 in US right now!"
could you imagine if every person wanted to blog their minimal accomplishments on TL.net ?
I could write : "OMG TL.net I just beat Machine and ash.sonic each 2-0 at a LAN IM SO COOL because the highest rank I could ever get on a ladder is C+ I'm newb but I beat some gosus with super luck at a LAN, GO ME!"
or it could degenerate further...
RandomNewb1: "Dear TL.net ... I just got my first blowjob today, WOW IM PRO look at me".
that's why I'd attack him for it.
Yes hes an idiot for posting his "minimal accomplishments" on TL.net but you are even more of an idiot for pming him about it, being an asshole to him, and giving him the attention hes craving.
why dont you get your facts straight genius.. HE PM'd me .. please stop talking when you don't even have the facts.
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On June 14 2008 05:51 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2008 05:31 mousey.rr wrote:On June 14 2008 03:05 Xeris wrote:
why? because if everyone has to make blogs every time something good happens to them then this site is going to get so filled with bullshit blogs from kids...
if you know your aren't #1 or even close to being a top gamer, why would you be excited about temporarily being #1 for the first day of a ladder? if it's like after 1 month and he's been working really hard and maintained a top spot, then I'd say "wow congrats thats cool you worked so hard and it paid off" .. but no... it's like this "im going to beat D ranks because I'm not confident in my skill to play people the same rank as me, but now that I'm #1 I'm going to go blog it because WOOOOOOO Im number #1... ps... I still suck, but I'm #1 in US right now!"
could you imagine if every person wanted to blog their minimal accomplishments on TL.net ?
I could write : "OMG TL.net I just beat Machine and ash.sonic each 2-0 at a LAN IM SO COOL because the highest rank I could ever get on a ladder is C+ I'm newb but I beat some gosus with super luck at a LAN, GO ME!"
or it could degenerate further...
RandomNewb1: "Dear TL.net ... I just got my first blowjob today, WOW IM PRO look at me".
that's why I'd attack him for it.
Yes hes an idiot for posting his "minimal accomplishments" on TL.net but you are even more of an idiot for pming him about it, being an asshole to him, and giving him the attention hes craving. why dont you get your facts straight genius.. HE PM'd me .. please stop talking when you don't even have the facts.
It would actually be started with an uncalled for insult from Xeris, on my original blog post, I hadn't even known of Xeris beforehand.
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it's not about "who started it" - only 5th graders make dumb arguments like that... I was responding to mousey's misinformation. he said I was stupid for PMing you, but in fact you PM'd me. I don't think it was an uncalled for insult. if you are a newb basher, someone's is / was bound to call you out on it, I just happened to see it and got a good laugh out of it, and called you out.
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On June 14 2008 06:16 Xeris wrote:
it's not about "who started it" - only 5th graders make dumb arguments like that... I was responding to mousey's misinformation. he said I was stupid for PMing you, but in fact you PM'd me. I don't think it was an uncalled for insult. if you are a newb basher, someone's is / was bound to call you out on it, I just happened to see it and got a good laugh out of it, and called you out.
Calling me out for a laugh, eh? Your views are even more malignant than your brain for that sense of humor, in any event, all you're doing is contradicting what every says, completely bias in your own right (striking resemblance to what younger kids do) , still have yet to offer an argument i haven't already refuted and I grow tired of unnecessary arguments that just resort to assaulting the others integrity , and you've already been warned of posting in my blog without any thought beforehand on your part, so you are banned.
+ Show Spoiler +Nah i'm j/k :p feel free to state your points and whatnot.
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you said "in the beginning when I was massgaming there were no other higher ranks so I had to play newbs" - that's completely not true, and what about all the games you played since last sunday - theyre STILL all vs D ranks. My team has like 10+ people C- or better, and they never had trouble finding games at C- , you are just making a lame cop-out for your newb bashing.
second. how can my views be more malignant than my brain? that doesn't even make sense.
can you explain how I am contradicting what "every" says? in what ways am I contradicting anybody? half people are defending you for being proud of your #1 US ranking for like 10 hours, half people are calling you a newb basher... I am calling you a newb basher... and point of fact: you have ONLY played D ranks in like 70 ICCUP games. I'm pretty sure my claim is valid.
also, I don't know how I'm biased... I'm just pointing out that you are a newb basher (this is true).
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So what did Xeris do wrong exactly? He accused you of being a newb basher, which you seem to be. I just checked your history and they are indeed mostly vs D's. By the way, it's true that there's no rule against playing D players. But then again, is there a rule against calling someone a newb basher when he is? Then you make an excuse about how you had no other players, but your recent match history shows you still playing D. And then all he does is PM you back to point out that fact. Anyway, that's what I got from it based on the information here. Feel free to inform me if I'm missing something and I'll gladly apologize.
You're an ass for making the PMs public though. You initiated the PMs, presumably to make the dispute private and not ruin the current blog. Then you make a new blog and publicize the PMs?
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On June 14 2008 07:00 Xeris wrote:
you said "in the beginning when I was massgaming there were no other higher ranks so I had to play newbs" - that's completely not true, and what about all the games you played since last sunday - theyre STILL all vs D ranks. My team has like 10+ people C- or better, and they never had trouble finding games at C- , you are just making a lame cop-out for your newb bashing.
second. how can my views be more malignant than my brain? that doesn't even make sense.
can you explain how I am contradicting what "every" says? in what ways am I contradicting anybody? half people are defending you for being proud of your #1 US ranking for like 10 hours, half people are calling you a newb basher... I am calling you a newb basher... and point of fact: you have ONLY played D ranks in like 70 ICCUP games. I'm pretty sure my claim is valid.
also, I don't know how I'm biased... I'm just pointing out that you are a newb basher (this is true).
lol if you take note of the spoiler, i said i was just kidding, i dont really care about any points you're making cause it doesnt really matter , since theres no arguement, i even already said i was a newb lol, yet you keep pointing it out, its pretty funny how ignorant you are :p. But since you failed to understand it, heres a shorter one "I dont care." Can you kill the double standard you have and start acting as you said eariler , and "not take things to seriously"
Otherwise i actually will ban you for trolling my blogspot.
"second. how can my views be more malignant than my brain? that doesn't even make sense. "
I was talking about your true exigency for writing this, because you did it because it was humorous to you,(as u said above) and my statement stays the same.
Ill respond to that because that was the only thing you haven't repeated over and over again.
-Actually in the beginning of the season i was the highest rank, so i had to play people lower than me, and since all the pros and A-B , etc. people were climbing the ladder, some of them were actually pretty good.
- It's not like i host a game saying "1v1 D- only"
I just host a game "1;1 motw" and i couldn't care less who joined, D, or C, as long as i got a game
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On June 14 2008 11:06 Blind wrote:
So what did Xeris do wrong exactly? He accused you of being a newb basher, which you seem to be. I just checked your history and they are indeed mostly vs D's. By the way, it's true that there's no rule against playing D players. But then again, is there a rule against calling someone a newb basher when he is? Then you make an excuse about how you had no other players, but your recent match history shows you still playing D. And then all he does is PM you back to point out that fact. Anyway, that's what I got from it based on the information here. Feel free to inform me if I'm missing something and I'll gladly apologize.
You're an ass for making the PMs public though. You initiated the PMs, presumably to make the dispute private and not ruin the current blog. Then you make a new blog and publicize the PMs?
Thanks for the benefit of the doubt, i just made this blog spot in the sheer irony of helping Xeris achieve his goal, so this "argument" would be over sooner. O_o I don't mind being labeled as a newb, I welcome it, but it tends to get tiresome when people incoherently repeat it (Xeris), on the same blog spot, making me wonder if they'd ever understood the original blog.
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I'm not going to read all of what was posted here or in your other blog. All I am going to say is that if you actually bragged or casually boasted about being the number one in the USA, then you most likely deserve what your getting. Newb bashing is against any rules, but you shouldn't boast about any position your in when you didn't truly reach it.
If your D, you play D. The ladder recognises that your better than the majority of D players and moves you up to D+. This lets you get better competition and leaves the D's to fight other D's, making it fair. If you continue to play D's, your defeating the whole purpose of ranking up. You may as well stay a D then.
If you didn't boast in any way, than disregard the whole statement above.
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aahahah xeris sent you PM's cause he cares so much about some random person on ICCUP? wow. obviously he was joking.
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sigh, the joys of iccup...
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On June 15 2008 01:33 EnergyTraction wrote:
aahahah xeris sent you PM's cause he cares so much about some random person on ICCUP? wow. obviously he was joking.
he sent me a pm and I responded to him via PM and then he posted the PM's in a blog, I don't get what's so hard to understand =D
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