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Yeah, take a job that gets you the money for now. One thing I will say for Home Depot, don't go into:
Flooring, Millwork, or Kitchen and Bath, 'cause they're the big specialty departments and fuck specialty departments.
Lumber is ideal if you're okay with manual labor and know how/learning to maybe work a fork lift. Garden is like lumber but way more pleasant. Hardware sucks dick because the screw aisle and customers who become dicks for you not strictly knowing where their specific dumb fuck screw is on the massive screw area. Service is also a special brand of hell.
They buy a lot of food though, so expect to be fed at work a fair deal. Oh, and don't take a specialist position if they're not paying you more than 10$/h cause thats boolsheet.
And just bide your time, get your hardware, and get portfolio work done, its the best way if you're like me and weren't able to afford fancy fuckin' internships and european vacations like the rich students. 
EDIT: Also try not to use the bathrooms at Home Depot. Trust me.
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Best I did in school was that 2 week sabbatical to Tokyo last summer. That was amazing and refreshing. I can bide my time just fine waiting to get shit together, but I have other projects that I need to get going and completed before year's end, so we'll see how my patience works out. I got shit to do hahaha.
I have an in person interview waiting, but the firm is super busy so I don't know when I'll be able to get in there and sit down. I'm trying to wait for that to happen to see where I stand. But time is ticking so who knows?
There's one less than a mile away from where I live, so I'll probably just walk to work everyday if I get the Home Depot gig. Money is the limiting factor in a lot of my plans. Maybe I can leverage some pay for machinery and materials if I can get some of these furniture designs down ^_^
Thanks for the advice though. I'll be sure to steer away from those problem areas you pointed out. I just hate having a degree and not being able to work in it, you know? Like a complete waste of time if this was how it was going to end up. I could have been doing construction with my friend and bought a house by now.
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I feel your pain, dawg, I just graduated from law school and am applying for jobs as we speak. However, pretty much every good legal job except for judicial clerkships requires bar passage and I don't receive my results until the very end of October at the earliest. It's a pain in the ass.
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The thing with me is that my degree isn't accredited, but the school I went to is. So I don't know how that will affect my chances at all. It's also not the standard Bachelor of Architecture that most people get. I can see that being an issue when the time comes to sit down and discuss it. It's whatever though. Just gotta try my luck and see what comes. Hit some more websites and firms and see what I can find.
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Just got a lead on a job back in San Diego. I'd hate to have to move back there because 1) I'm broke bitch! 2) I'm broke bitch! And 3) I just got here and to leave the family again so soon would make them pretty sad.
BUT, if it comes through and they're willing to pay for relocating, then I'll do it.
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Good luck!
Make sure you ask "What do you feel might hold you back from hiring me?" just before the end of the interview when they ask you if you have any questions. This is always a good way to flip any reservations that they might have and confront them directly. I have always used it and I have always gotten a genuine answer that I was able to quickly turn back into a positive with some jedi mind tricks.
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On August 02 2017 23:20 Trainrunnef wrote:
Good luck!
Make sure you ask "What do you feel might hold you back from hiring me?" just before the end of the interview when they ask you if you have any questions. This is always a good way to flip any reservations that they might have and confront them directly. I have always used it and I have always gotten a genuine answer that I was able to quickly turn back into a positive with some jedi mind tricks.
That's a great tip. I honestly thought to ask that question. I usually end up asking something along the lines of "So, when do I start?" with a smile and a good laugh. It's been years since I've had an actual interview that goes in depth like what I'm expecting, simply because I haven't had a professional environment per se. So I'll make sure to remember that when the time comes.
A friend here suggested I get a job doing heavy machinery for $13/hr. I don't have any problems taking it, except that if I get that job and then something else pops up, I'd have to choose leaving immediately to pursue a better paying job. So I'm kind of holding out that one of these better paying jobs in my field actually materializes before I'm forced to "settle" for something else.
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your friend that recommended heavy machinery is correct: need to work in a granite quarry until the cute rich daughter of a prestigious nyc based architecture partner comes and finds you... the rest is history.. i also hope you have red hair
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Nah, no red hair. It's actually something to do with sand. I'm already 30, so I don't see my chances of finding a rich daughter happening either. So yeah. I'll give it a go for a while. No harm in trying something different. Just feel the pay is a little low to be operating heavy machinery.
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I don't know too much about the architecture industry, but is there an apprenticeship or internship that you could try to do to get your foot in the door?
All I can say is good luck and try to be persistent. It's never easy getting a job, my rule of thumb has been about one interview for every 20 resumes I send out.
You might want to try a similar approach to applying for a PhD, which is reaching out to people you might want to work with and try to see if there might be a good fit and an opening. If the guy at a firm you're applying is a dick, consider it a blessing that HR didn't ask you for an interview because you wouldn't have liked it anyways. It should help your chances a lot if you have some kind of connection and a better idea on your cover letter of what the company is doing and where it could go with your help.
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On August 03 2017 07:19 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Nah, no red hair. It's actually something to do with sand. I'm already 30, so I don't see my chances of finding a rich daughter happening either. So yeah. I'll give it a go for a while. No harm in trying something different. Just feel the pay is a little low to be operating heavy machinery.
I would say try and do something in the construction industry. Architects/Engineers with actual knowledge on construct-ability have a HUGE edge on those fresh out of school with no construction knowledge. Call local construction companies (big ones) and ask if they need day laborers. You will be surprised what you can pick up. Then you can spin it during your interviews like you did it on purpose to get real world knowledge, you just have to make sure you set that stage in your cover letters and you will be golden.
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Yeah, I'm leaning towards that if my friend gets back to me regarding more information and if the guy wants to talk. I keep meaning to go downtown and talk to some companies around here, since as far as I can tell, that's the only place with construction going on that would be easy enough to talk to people about work.
Thanks for that. I might see what's happening on craigslist as well, freelance in the meantime.
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i wasn't being a dick, i was just referencing ayn rand's the fountainhead which (among other things) deals with unrecognized genius in the architecture industry like 90 years ago. definitely worth a read if you have free time while looking for a job.
serious note, keep at it, job hunting is the worst. also, hit up all of your old classmates/professors and see if anyone knows of anything, i feel like that is by FAR the easiest way to get a good job post undergrad.
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Coverpunch: Most of the people I had connections with are back in San Diego. I'm basically starting over and it's the worst. Rebuilding the network and connections I had back there, here, is seemingly impossible. It's just not as big as San Diego, and not nearly as diverse. I've gotten an offer from Amazon to work in their warehouse on the weekends, my friend back in my hometown, and that architecture firm with no call back. I'm thinking the architecture one won't work out.
Endymion: No offense taken at all. I'm gonna keep at it and see what I can find. There's old classmates here but they haven't amounted to much themselves, so that doesn't really help at all. Missouri (Kansas City) is not as prosperous as it seems.
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ZerO, have you ever tutored before?
Public tutoring is pretty decent money, and with a degree in architecture I assume you're pretty good at the most tested and polarizing subject in general education: mathematics.
Even better, if you can start networking successfully and getting a few private tutoring clients, then the money will really be great!
Tutoring is also a flexible enough job that you can still have plenty of time to job search or work at Home Depot or do anything else 
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I hate to break it to you DPB, but I deplore mathematics. I can do it, but I don't like it. Anything up to calculus I can manage. Trig was my worst subject in math. Everything else was fine. History is my best subject in school.
But that is something worth looking into for sure. Thanks for the advice though, I'll seriously consider it. Maybe I can teach conceptual thinking.
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You're allowed to dislike math It was the first subject I thought about mentioning to you because I teach and tutor math, you have a degree in architecture, and it's really easy to get a tutoring job if you can tutor math If you could tutor history or any other high school subject, I strongly recommend putting out feelers at nearby centers. Good luck!
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Thank you! I'll see what they have out here. Gotta find the rich neighborhoods. I doubt I'll get that Bora Bora vacation money in the inner city :p
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Heh, that's unfortunately very true... Inner city kids could probably use the tutoring though, even if their families can't afford it.
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Maybe some pro bono work if I actually go forward with it. I don't mind giving back to the community.
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