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smilingjuggernaut
Profile Joined November 2016
74 Posts
January 19 2017 17:20 GMT
#21
On January 20 2017 02:06 Pontual wrote:
You're trying to make a tip to "see exactly where the shop begins" to save unnecessary steps seem like a fundamental aspect of the game. What can i say, that's simply not "knowing how the game works". It's knowing a small detail of the game.

To each their own. Maybe some people can enjoy playing without knowing how everything works, I know I for one cant.
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
January 19 2017 17:32 GMT
#22
On January 20 2017 02:20 smilingjuggernaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 02:06 Pontual wrote:
You're trying to make a tip to "see exactly where the shop begins" to save unnecessary steps seem like a fundamental aspect of the game. What can i say, that's simply not "knowing how the game works". It's knowing a small detail of the game.

To each their own. Maybe some people can enjoy playing without knowing how everything works, I know I for one cant.

im sure the argument isnt about what people should enjoy
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
smilingjuggernaut
Profile Joined November 2016
74 Posts
January 19 2017 17:52 GMT
#23
On January 20 2017 02:32 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 02:20 smilingjuggernaut wrote:
On January 20 2017 02:06 Pontual wrote:
You're trying to make a tip to "see exactly where the shop begins" to save unnecessary steps seem like a fundamental aspect of the game. What can i say, that's simply not "knowing how the game works". It's knowing a small detail of the game.

To each their own. Maybe some people can enjoy playing without knowing how everything works, I know I for one cant.

im sure the argument isnt about what people should enjoy

indeed. it's about what people enjoy
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 19 2017 17:58 GMT
#24
I can't even argue anymore.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
January 19 2017 18:58 GMT
#25
to be honest i dont give a shit about any of your opinions
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
January 19 2017 19:08 GMT
#26
On January 20 2017 03:58 FFGenerations wrote:
to be honest i dont give a shit about any of your opinions

ok percy
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-19 19:40:26
January 19 2017 19:17 GMT
#27
On January 20 2017 03:58 FFGenerations wrote:
to be honest i dont give a shit about any of your opinions

Ok dude, just there are some really good advices here.
But if you want to keep improving in such short steps, you can do what you want.
In case you want to ignore these advices i will spare you 3 years (or more) with this tip: If you get phase boots you should always use it to move faster and gain efficiency. But sometimes it's good to save it when you're running away to go through a creep wave and your enemy will be stuck in it. Cool isn't it?
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 19 2017 19:35 GMT
#28
On January 20 2017 03:58 FFGenerations wrote:
to be honest i dont give a shit about any of your opinions

"Opinions" has a certain implication that one cant be right or wrong, here.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
January 20 2017 00:08 GMT
#29
You can also just left click the tower to see its range. Just a preference thing though
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 20 2017 02:38 GMT
#30
Reminder day9 explicitly asked people not to tell him what to do
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 20 2017 03:47 GMT
#31
Just say "spam stop next to creep, stop when it's in last hit range" shop distance is irrelevant more or less.

Tower distance you learn, not sure if taking aggro off by a click own creep was told to day9
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-20 09:24:33
January 20 2017 09:24 GMT
#32
On January 20 2017 12:47 LemOn wrote:
Just say "spam stop next to creep, stop when it's in last hit range" shop distance is irrelevant more or less.

Tower distance you learn, not sure if taking aggro off by a click own creep was told to day9

It was, Purge taught him a lot about laning control, and laning in general.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12035 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-20 10:45:45
January 20 2017 10:43 GMT
#33
On January 20 2017 18:24 Pontual wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 12:47 LemOn wrote:
Just say "spam stop next to creep, stop when it's in last hit range" shop distance is irrelevant more or less.

Tower distance you learn, not sure if taking aggro off by a click own creep was told to day9

It was, Purge taught him a lot about laning control, and laning in general.


Especially the portions about why you want to push instead of keep equilibrium were good. Mentioned all the common reasons and summarised it into giving you time to do something else.

Biggest tip I could give him would be to have a dota wiki open on the side during draft (or dotabuff) and looking up the hero skills during the draft to know what his allies and opponents does. That would make the drafting phase more of a learning experience and there is often a lot of dead time in ranked since many people wait out the time to pick last.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 20 2017 10:57 GMT
#34
On January 20 2017 19:43 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 18:24 Pontual wrote:
On January 20 2017 12:47 LemOn wrote:
Just say "spam stop next to creep, stop when it's in last hit range" shop distance is irrelevant more or less.

Tower distance you learn, not sure if taking aggro off by a click own creep was told to day9

It was, Purge taught him a lot about laning control, and laning in general.


Especially the portions about why you want to push instead of keep equilibrium were good. Mentioned all the common reasons and summarised it into giving you time to do something else.

Biggest tip I could give him would be to have a dota wiki open on the side during draft (or dotabuff) and looking up the hero skills during the draft to know what his allies and opponents does. That would make the drafting phase more of a learning experience and there is often a lot of dead time in ranked since many people wait out the time to pick last.

I mean, he can click on the hero photo up there and he'll be able to read his skills. You can do this with either your team's heroes and enemy's heroes
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
January 20 2017 11:54 GMT
#35
This is why God stopped at day 7.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12035 Posts
January 20 2017 13:01 GMT
#36
On January 20 2017 19:57 Pontual wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 19:43 Yurie wrote:
On January 20 2017 18:24 Pontual wrote:
On January 20 2017 12:47 LemOn wrote:
Just say "spam stop next to creep, stop when it's in last hit range" shop distance is irrelevant more or less.

Tower distance you learn, not sure if taking aggro off by a click own creep was told to day9

It was, Purge taught him a lot about laning control, and laning in general.


Especially the portions about why you want to push instead of keep equilibrium were good. Mentioned all the common reasons and summarised it into giving you time to do something else.

Biggest tip I could give him would be to have a dota wiki open on the side during draft (or dotabuff) and looking up the hero skills during the draft to know what his allies and opponents does. That would make the drafting phase more of a learning experience and there is often a lot of dead time in ranked since many people wait out the time to pick last.

I mean, he can click on the hero photo up there and he'll be able to read his skills. You can do this with either your team's heroes and enemy's heroes


Is that possible to do in pick phase now? Nice.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-21 04:06:34
January 20 2017 13:02 GMT
#37
yeah, after locking your hero in the pick screen, you can click the Back arrow at the left hand side of the screen to go back to the hero selection screen and read other hero abilities. i dont think Day9 knows this coz he was just staring at his hero and spinning it around when i watched :D
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
January 20 2017 13:07 GMT
#38
On January 20 2017 11:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
Reminder day9 explicitly asked people not to tell him what to do


This, I understand the desire to help people to improve but he was rather specific about not wanting advice as well as it is usually best coming from someone you know and can have an actual conversation with.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-20 17:05:55
January 20 2017 17:05 GMT
#39
oops wrong thread
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Ikidomari
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia485 Posts
January 21 2017 08:42 GMT
#40
I'm posting for the first time in god knows how long to tell you how strange and irrelevant this advice is.
flooding a relatively new player with small things to remember, that in the end have a relatively minor influence on the outcome of the game is one of the worst things you can do.
this will just overload him with too much on his mind.

Day9 doesn't need to learn intricate details of the game. He needs to learn to last hit creeps, to farm efficiently, how to use his spells in a fight, which items to buy in which situations.

The tips you gave him will be things that he'll pick up naturally, either due to his own realization as he strives to improve, watching pros do it, or someone telling him in-game.
Just break the rules, and you see the truth.
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