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The Aesthetic Side of Life

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YokoKano
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States612 Posts
September 17 2016 15:22 GMT
#1
Wittgenstein (philosopher) is seen many times in his later life saying something along the lines of, "...and this is simply what we do." Personally I'd attribute this to a sort of teeth grinding masochism, writing from my own perspective. I'm not really a fan of paradox or confusion, growing up with StarCraft, videogames and a sort of inspirational environment. Taking the short road here, I guess I'd say I favor spontaneity to indifference (to use the philosophical jargon). Spontaneity as we have observed may be completely useless as in being opposed to one's own benefit. On the other hand, from what I have observed of the so-called liberty of indifference it seems to be a simple way of saying I don't agree with this. And yet in many cases, believe it or not, it does seem to be a fact of the matter that one can gradually grind spontaneity into indifference for practical purpose. It is very strange to remark upon the world and want to say that most of the work in the world is done by people who at some level appear deeply indifferent.

It is easy for instance to get in the mindset of waking up, as I think many Westerners have begun to do. That this or that will ultimately result in a greater awareness, which it might pertaining to the things it relates to. But again, it seems we see what we want to see to some effect, and that this is not always an ideal but simply something pragmatic. So we find ourselves challenging certain superstitions maybe endlessly and maybe not, and this at some level seems to account for much of our motivation. In short we are taking this seriously, and it is a serious matter. This seems to be sufficient explanation for many things. But it is not clear to me that taking things seriously is an ideal of any kind. On the contrary there seems to be no real motivation definitively in being serious. Perhaps this is my conception of the liberty of indifference.

Could we simply ignore this? The answer is hopefully always 'yes' to the extent we have some freedom of motion. Unfortunately the reality of our life seems to be the opposite, that instead we should have freedom of motion only in proportion to our indifference. Of course this sounds not very good on the face of it. Inasmuch as we are either admitting a sort of global helplessness of the human faculty to address some question or else we are admitting the same frailty of ability to guide our action. We are in effect saying that to change the things we want to change we have to be sufficiently indifferent as to make the consequences obviated. But we cannot simply admit of the futility of changing things deliberately or else we are simply admitting that we cannot change the things we aim to change.

But at some level this seems to be the constant hallmark of intelligence, despite the flowery appraisal or cynicism, whichever. It is for instance usually quite clear to me that the usual intelligence of the form we respect is usually targeted at narrow factors and minute movements. For instance in striving to obtain some point the thing must be seen clearly enough to agree either so distinctly to one or so generally to others that the thing is really not to be had. In shaping some peculiar standpoint which seems to have global appeal, the usual variety of experience tends to favor a sort of ineluctable self-defeat. There seems to be no escaping the reality of awakening to some factors at the expense of losing others. But this indeed to me seems to characterize the human experience, that we have evolved a very compressed system of observation complemented by a rationality and a mode of reasoning just thorough enough that the observation is functional.

But is it functional from the aesthetic viewpoint? The argument from experience seems to be 'no'. There seems to be little hope of obtaining to an aesthetic appeal as it appears in the mind without sacrificing the thing to some global standard. It seems to me easiest to grasp at straws and defer to the functionality of the living thing. The thing functions within parameters and the confines of experience yield a real world out of keeping with vaguely perceived notions of what it would be to have success. It is the same to say that many things are possible but none of them are realistically obtained. And try as we might to have the cake and eat it too there seems to be a pervasive generality to the life of the mind. To that effect as we gradually sacrifice one or the other "dream" to a moribund existence the whole of the notion seems to be encapsulated or lost. Some would argue one perspective and others would argue another. Neither of these are compatible in my view.

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imgbaby
Profile Blog Joined May 2015
158 Posts
September 17 2016 16:44 GMT
#2
You sure do have the writing like a philosopher part down.
Like a bird on a wire, like a drunk in some midnight choir I have tried in my way to be free
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17519 Posts
September 17 2016 18:16 GMT
#3
its a bad idea for little kids to spend too much time playing video games. they should go outside and play with other kids their age and be removed completely from the adult world. this gives young children a chance to form their own perspective.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
YokoKano
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States612 Posts
September 17 2016 20:02 GMT
#4
ya so often tony hawk inspires kids to smash a snowboard into the face of a bicyclist strolling down the sidewalk. it doesn't happen often but oh boy when it happens
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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-20 21:07:41
September 20 2016 16:06 GMT
#5
In all honesty I don't think that perspectives are mutually exclusive. Ideals somewhat are, but a child will always adapt to the ideals of it's surroundings and that isn't necessarily a bad thing. The ideals of our modern society are far more humane than our natural instincts and "manipulating" children's ideals to be more humane can only be a good thing in the long run. Also as long as the child meets multiple different standpoints it will merge it's own blend in the long run.

Smashing a snowboard into the face of the bicyclist is tempting because it speaks against the ideals we adapted but in line with our violent instincts. If you keep kids away from influences they'll do that more, not less. It's a predatory instinct, it's the same as a big cat instinctively attacking a target that has it's back turned to it.

Could you further explain what you mean by the aesthetic viewpoint?
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YokoKano
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States612 Posts
September 20 2016 22:00 GMT
#6
The tip question is an economic one. Although we are inclined to say the meat of the issue is whether people like it or not, it isn't just a question of perspective to whether we are dealing with the point. Happenstance could be aesthetic. it's hard to imagine accepting anything to be aesthetically pleasing regardless of motivation. To break the ice with example, smashing the kid in the face with the snowboard is the pinnacle of unmotivated spontaneity. So often we must ask whether the snowboarder was in the right place at the right time and whether the significant event establishes itself. Do we understand the meaning of the snowboard, the context of the sidewalk and the proposition significance or is it foreign. Is there anything to appreciated in the aesthetic life? It seems nothing is personal or everything s.
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