Religious origins of American self-help industry - Page 2

On August 24 2016 06:40 Jerubaal wrote:
Eh, well...There's lots of directions you could go with this and I'm not sure if your aim is to just be pejorative, but no. It's a political ideology. It's a pretty bare bones ideology in my opinion. Only Capitalism is more bare bones, but Capitalism is much more malleable and can graft onto a range of of other theories.

You could argue that Libertarianism could trace some roots back to some religious movements, but the roots of American Progressivism in the descendants of Puritans is well documented and they display a much greater degree of "religious" fervor.

On August 24 2016 13:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:


i'm unsure of libertarianism's meta-ethical roots. the be an objecitivist as branden is you must believe that life and death is our ultimate alternative that we face every second of every day. some religions argue you are not actually dead and you live on .. and your alternative is to serve god or not... and physical life and death are not of prime importance.

strictly speaking Branden is not a libertarian. he is a david kelley objectivist. objectivism split in 2.. with a bunch siding with Kelley and a bunch siding with Rand's anointed intellectual heir Leonard Piekoff.

although i do not believe in every word ever uttered by Miss Rand i'd describe myself as a Kelley-Objectivist.

the debate between Kelley and Piekoff hinges upon Kelley's "Fact And Value" thesis.

the next time you are having trouble sleeping , rather than taking a sedative i recommend "fact and value" by David Kelley.