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If this guy does get reported what should his superiors do?
Poll: Should the officer (shown in red) be reported to his superiors
Should this cop be reported to his superiors?
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GreenHorizons
United States23221 Posts
The comments were in response to this shooting: Graphic Images Warning! If this guy does get reported what should his superiors do? | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16699 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23221 Posts
On April 09 2015 15:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote: he should be charged with murder. The cop commenting on the 'alleged' murder, not the suspect. EDIT for clarity: The officer who shot the man and the one who called it "Natural selection at it's finest" are two different officers. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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riotjune
United States3393 Posts
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
Ontopic; I think both cops, shouldn't be cops at all. The cop who is shooting the guy, well I don't think that that needs to be explained. The cop who is commenting, should be able to withhold his views regarding this. If he can't even recognize the absurdness of his collegue in this situation, he is another similar video, just waiting to be happening. There's systematically something wrong in the USA if these people can be law enforcerers (not judging USA or something, theres fucked up cops in every country). | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
I am in no way defending a cop that has shot a guy in the back and I am not trying to argue in favor of the cops in any way, I just hate even the idea of "reporting someone" because of a comment, that's all. | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
EDIT: Why is No the top answer and why did I click it without reading.. Dumbo jumbo Kurumi right here. EDIT2: Since when "authorized to use deadly force" means "must use deadly force". I could do variety of things to people which are legal and authorized, but I am not compelled to. Sigh. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
Frankly, this political and racial tension has existed in American society since existence and it will never end, just the techniques of instigating or enacting has changed. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12172 Posts
On April 09 2015 17:17 WonnaPlay wrote: (not judging USA or something, theres fucked up cops in every country). There really aren't, though. I mean, I know you probably said that to not sound like an antagonistic foreigner, but we really don't have the same type of stories in Europe. What was the stat that I read the other day, US cops killed more people in march 2015 than UK cops did in the last 115 years? You can say it's training, you can say it's something else, I don't really know enough to argue causality, but there's definitely something specific going on. | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
To me it's not entirely clear what he means. It could have a meaning in racial context, but nowhere in the text any reference to the guys' races. What I think is more probable (based on how I would use such a remark), is that he means that people who grab police belts' stuff are very stupid. I don't agree with both at all, obviously, but the interpretation could have implications on how it will be received as a report. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 09 2015 22:20 Yorbon wrote: On what grounds should it be reported? To me it's not entirely clear what he means. It could have a meaning in racial context, but nowhere in the text any reference to the guys' races. What I think is more probable (based on how I would use such a remark), is that he means that people who grab police belts' stuff are very stupid. I don't agree with both at all, obviously, but the interpretation could have implications on how it will be received as a report. "natural selection" does not mean that people who grab police belts' stuff are very stupid. It means that people who grab police belts' deserve to die. But yeah I agree, I don't think it was meant in a racial context. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
you can see at the start of the video he bats it away and is already running there is no attempt to grab or be offensive, only defensive/escape posture so what was the buildup to the event? if he was stopped for tail light, how is he half-way down a park, trying to flee from a taser? the facebook officer's interpretation of the event appears to be wrong (black guy wasn't trying to grab anything from officer's belt; he clearly batted the taser away in a defensive motion and was fleeing) so it might be relevant to make sure the facebook officer is aware of this and see if his opinion changes edit: love the commenter about the guy who videoed it saying "why cant we get decent camera people, this guy is shaking it all over the place" | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44311 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
At the same time, I have no idea why anyone would want to make themselves an easy target for a doxxer by making your place of employment known... or just dabbling in political posts on your profile. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44311 Posts
On April 09 2015 23:24 QuanticHawk wrote: I'm not a fan of policing someone's opinions expressed outside of their job. Doxxing/causing trouble by claling his boss is lame, even if the person is stupid and callous and wrong. At the same time, I have no idea why anyone would want to make themselves an easy target for a doxxer by making your place of employment known... or just dabbling in political posts on your profile. If it's wrong and perpetuates a huge problem in our society, I wouldn't find "it's lame" to be a very convincing argument as to why you shouldn't try to help solve the problem. Holding the police accountable to high standards, the words they speak, and the actions they take should be incredibly important, especially given the tragedies that have been happening at the hands of cops over the past few years. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
So yeah while this guy is pretty clearly wrong and a dick, I just don't at all like having your opinions policed by an employer while off work hours/not representing the company no matter who the person is. 'if it's wrong and it perpetuates a huge problem in our society' can be used to justify a whole lot of things. Should you be policed if you criticize anything about feminism? What about if you're criticizing something about religion, politics, etc. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44311 Posts
On April 09 2015 23:50 QuanticHawk wrote: I'm for holding cops to a high standard with them on duty as far actions, how they talk to people, etc. This is one of the few instances where the local pd's response has been on point with charging him with murder and stating exactly how what transpired is totally unacceptable. most other recent cases in the news had a whole lot of gray area in them. This didn't. Certainly in a scuffle a guy going for a gun could pose a deadly threat, and lethal response would be appropriate. This show pretty clearly that was not the case. So yeah while this guy is pretty clearly wrong and a dick, I just don't at all like having your opinions policed by an employer while off work hours/not representing the company no matter who the person is. 'if it's wrong and it perpetuates a huge problem in our society' can be used to justify a whole lot of things. Should you be policed if you criticize anything about feminism? What about if you're criticizing something about religion, politics, etc. I think that's a pretty interesting point to explore, and I think it depends on context and what your actual job is. The cop's remark was at odds with his profession, and one should be responsible for the words they say. You represent your employer and business, even off the clock. If I taught at an all-girls school, and then at night I wrote blogs trivializing pedophilia and raping women (or said it in a bar or some other public forum, etc.), I would think that I would be held accountable in some sense. It's a reflection on me, my philosophies, and what I bring to the table as both a person and a professional. If we're talking about some other random person with a job not even remotely linked to young girls, then maybe there's more leeway for that person. Was the cop's remark in bad taste? Of course. Is he definitely going to put his words into actions and go on a rampage and kill people because of "natural selection"? Almost certainly not. Should he still be held responsible for his trivialization of a very important issue surrounding his profession- an issue that has a tangible body count? I personally think so. I just don't think that kind of behavior should be excusable just because he's not in a cop car wearing his badge at that very moment. | ||
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 10 2015 00:43 iamho wrote: "Trivialization of a very important issue" my ass, its a Facebook post, if you want to punish him because you don't agree with his viewpoints then just say so outright. so because it's a Facebook post, it shouldn't have any consequences? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44311 Posts
On April 10 2015 00:43 iamho wrote: "Trivialization of a very important issue" my ass, its a Facebook post, if you want to punish him because you don't agree with his viewpoints then just say so outright. You don't think people should be able to get in trouble for the things they post on social media? Why not? I'm not saying he should necessarily be fired or anything super drastic, but maybe something as minor as his superior officer calling him in and saying "Maybe it's not such a great idea to say that kind of thing about a sensitive subject that we're responsible for". I don't see the harm in that. Holding people accountable for their opinions and what they say and do... what's the problem? | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On April 10 2015 00:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: You represent your employer and business, even off the clock. No, I do not. At least I do not want to. Should I be only because people like you want it to be so? I find this way of thinking disgusting. You want to have things in a certain way that you like, but you seem to be oblivious to the fact that this desire of your has an impact to other people. I really hate when my liberties are taken away because a lot of people feel like it ... | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44311 Posts
On April 10 2015 00:50 opisska wrote: No, I do not. At least I do not want to. Should I be only because people like you want it to be so? I find this way of thinking disgusting. You want to have things in a certain way that you like, but you seem to be oblivious to the fact that this desire of your has an impact to other people. I really hate when my liberties are taken away because a lot of people feel like it ... Your liberties aren't taken away. You have the right to say whatever you want (with the exception of the rare caveat that can cause mass panic and harm, like yelling "Fire!" in a crowded movie theater). You have your freedoms of speech and expression (at least, in America). But that doesn't mean you're exempt from consequences. You can get fired or beaten up or worse for exercising certain rights in poor taste. If you don't want to represent your business, find one that doesn't care about you spreading a philosophy that directly conflicts with their message. I'd imagine there aren't many. It's a matter of discretion. You want to vent about work with your family and friends in private or in an area where you won't be heard by your bosses? Fine. You want to post idiocy on social media where everyone can see it? That's a dumb move. And oh, the irony of you telling me that I "seem to be oblivious to the fact that this desire of your has an impact to other people", given the cop's remark... | ||
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
On April 10 2015 00:45 OtherWorld wrote: so because it's a Facebook post, it shouldn't have any consequences? He did not say anything that would be harmful to anyone. At worst he made a comment that was mildly offensive to those searching for outrage. People should not be thought-policed from saying anything that goes against mainstream thought. If I wanted to live somewhere where mob justice trumps individual liberty, I would move to Britain. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44311 Posts
On April 10 2015 00:56 iamho wrote: He did not say anything that would be harmful to anyone. At worst he made a comment that was mildly offensive to those searching for outrage. People should not be thought-policed from saying anything that goes against mainstream thought. If I wanted to live somewhere where mob justice trumps individual liberty, I would move to Britain. You use the term "mainstream thought" as if to say this cop is just a hipster rebel, and not someone who's advocating shooting and killing harmless people. At least we both apparently agree that *not* killing is/ should be considered mainstream. But just because you have a different philosophy doesn't mean it automatically garners respect or approval. Sometimes people say stupid shit and they get in trouble for it. Also, this just in: Outrage regarding cops approving of other cops killing harmless people is "mob justice". | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On April 10 2015 00:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Your liberties aren't taken away. You have the right to say whatever you want. You have your freedoms of speech and expression (at least, in America). But that doesn't mean you're exempt from consequences. If you don't want to represent your business, find one that doesn't care about you spreading a philosophy that directly conflicts with their message. I'd imagine there aren't many. It's a matter of discretion. You want to vent about work with your family and friends in private or in an area where you won't be heard by your bosses? Fine. You want to post idiocy on social media where everyone can see it? That's a dumb move. And oh, the irony of you telling me that I "seem to be oblivious to the fact that this desire of your has an impact to other people", given the cop's remark... And this response exactly shows how you do not understand what freedom is and what your impact on it is. It's not only about law and hardcoded laws, but also about what you can do without terrible impact on your life. And a society where you could talk freely about what you want outside of being strictly on your duty is completely imaginable and could be working. But people like you are the reason we do not have such society, because your opinion influences opinions of other people and if there is enough of you, the society adopts the given stance. And as a result, mine options of reasonably takeable actions are limited. Saying that I "have freedom of speech, but must face consequences" is just so incredibly hypocritical because of the same reasons - "hey hey look, we give you the freedom to do it on paper, you are sooooo free man - but if you do it, we will jump on your throat anyway, only it will not be using law enforcement, but societal standards and thus it is absolutely okay and completely different" - how can you not see how much bullshit that is? And your "irony" remark? I guess what you are trying to say is that the cop's remark has impact on people affected, such as the victim's family and you find it ironical that I talk about the impact of your actions? That's just the same hypocrisy over and over again, because you are trying to make it seem that "making someone feel bad" is the same level of impact as "destroying someone's job and career" and that's just another way to reinforce your desire to manipulate what people are allowed to say and what they are not. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 10 2015 00:50 opisska wrote: No, I do not. At least I do not want to. Should I be only because people like you want it to be so? I find this way of thinking disgusting. You want to have things in a certain way that you like, but you seem to be oblivious to the fact that this desire of your has an impact to other people. I really hate when my liberties are taken away because a lot of people feel like it ... I'd say that you don't represent your employer off the clock, but you represent your social role. If you hear someone in the street say, at the sight of a disabled person, "we should just kill these kind of people", it is shocking, but after all it's his opinion, right? But what if said person is in fact a medical doctor? It becomes even worse, because the social role of said doctor, to be maintained, necessitates the showing of empathy etc etc. Basically, depending on your place in society, there are opinions that you should not, at best have, at worse not show. You may think that it impacts your freedom or whatever, but fact is that it's the real world. It's the same way with the policeman here : if a random guy employed by a random company with no business to do with policemen and guns said that, it would be, while shocking, not worthy of lifting a finger. But the policeman, as a social role, is here to embody a role of protection of the citizens. Now a policeman saying things like that, and thus implying that policemen are legitimate in killing someone on the basis of what he calls "natural selection" (which basically means "if I find you stupid enough, I gonna shoot you down"), is breaking down his social role. No wonder people's trust in policemen is lower and lower. On April 10 2015 00:56 iamho wrote: He did not say anything that would be harmful to anyone. At worst he made a comment that was mildly offensive to those searching for outrage. People should not be thought-policed from saying anything that goes against mainstream thought. If I wanted to live somewhere where mob justice trumps individual liberty, I would move to Britain. See my post above. It's not about mainstream thought, it's not about individual liberty, it's about society, and it's about ethics. | ||
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
On April 10 2015 01:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: You use the term "mainstream thought" as if to say this cop is just a hipster rebel, and not someone who's advocating shooting and killing harmless people. At least we both apparently agree that *not* killing is/ should be considered mainstream. But just because you have a different philosophy doesn't mean it automatically garners respect or approval. Sometimes people say stupid shit and they get in trouble for it. Also, this just in: Outrage regarding cops approving of other cops killing harmless people is "mob justice". The cop was clearly claiming that the man was not innocent. I would disagree with him but he was not advocating killing innocent people. Yes, it is mob justice when people have to fear making political comments because strangers who have no relation to them and are unharmed by the comments still try to get them disciplined or fired from their jobs. Liberty doesn't just involve government-given liberty. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12172 Posts
On April 10 2015 00:50 opisska wrote: No, I do not. At least I do not want to. Should I be only because people like you want it to be so? I find this way of thinking disgusting. You want to have things in a certain way that you like, but you seem to be oblivious to the fact that this desire of your has an impact to other people. I really hate when my liberties are taken away because a lot of people feel like it ... Well we are talking about a subject pertaining to his job here... | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44311 Posts
On April 10 2015 01:04 opisska wrote: And this response exactly shows how you do not understand what freedom is and what your impact on it is. It's not only about law and hardcoded laws, but also about what you can do without terrible impact on your life. And a society where you could talk freely about what you want outside of being strictly on your duty is completely imaginable and could be working. But people like you are the reason we do not have such society, because your opinion influences opinions of other people and if there is enough of you, the society adopts the given stance. And as a result, mine options of reasonably takeable actions are limited. Saying that I "have freedom of speech, but must face consequences" is just so incredibly hypocritical because of the same reasons - "hey hey look, we give you the freedom to do it on paper, you are sooooo free man - but if you do it, we will jump on your throat anyway, only it will not be using law enforcement, but societal standards and thus it is absolutely okay and completely different" - how can you not see how much bullshit that is? It's not hypocritical at all. Again, there is a level of context and discretion for each of these situations. You're being way too idealistic. I live in the real world. If you publicly bad mouth your business, you might get fired or at least scolded. What you did is legal but perhaps not in your best interest, so you need to weigh your options. If you publicly voice support for hatred or bigotry or murder, you might be ostracized or beaten up. What you did is legal but perhaps not in your best interest. The list goes on. Feel free to exercise your freedoms, but your freedoms end as soon as they start infringing upon others' rights, and you certainly aren't exempt from the reality of being held accountable for the things you say. And your "irony" remark? I guess what you are trying to say is that the cop's remark has impact on people affected, such as the victim's family and you find it ironical that I talk about the impact of your actions? That's just the same hypocrisy over and over again, because you are trying to make it seem that "making someone feel bad" is the same level of impact as "destroying someone's job and career" and that's just another way to reinforce your desire to manipulate what people are allowed to say and what they are not. This cop just wrote a douchey remark. Stop making him out to be some sort of martyr regarding rights. It wasn't a well-reasoned argument or opinion. It was practically a troll comment, and your idea of having unlimited freedom with no responsibility is absurd. If his own words and actions cause him trouble, so be it. And I'm not saying his career should be destroyed. I made that quite clear earlier. However, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's given a quick comment of "Just be a little more careful of what you post on the internet". I think that's appropriate. No one is calling bloody murder on this guy's rights, so no need to overreact. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44311 Posts
On April 10 2015 01:10 iamho wrote: The cop was clearly claiming that the man was not innocent. I would disagree with him but he was not advocating killing innocent people. My issue is that the cop's remark was advocating killing harmless people. If the victim was being accused of doing something illegal, he should be detained and then held accountable. Not shot several times in the back and killed. That's not justice. That's not the cop's job. And that's what the cop was trivializing when he said "natural selection". It's certainly easier for cops to shoot people instead of capturing them, but this man wasn't a threat to the officer (or anyone else), and so to use lethal force is over the top. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On April 09 2015 19:12 opisska wrote: People should not be "reported" because of comments on anything. Stop making such a big deal of everything someone says, stop making people look behind their shoulder everytime their open their mouth or touch their keyboard. It is an attitude that slowly makes our society hell to live in, creating an atmosphere of fear and a situation where everyone can be taken down when he is not careful for a split second and says something that is not 100% politically correct. I am in no way defending a cop that has shot a guy in the back and I am not trying to argue in favor of the cops in any way, I just hate even the idea of "reporting someone" because of a comment, that's all. 100% Agree with this. | ||
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oBlade
United States5583 Posts
On April 10 2015 00:50 opisska wrote: No, I do not. At least I do not want to. Should I be only because people like you want it to be so? I find this way of thinking disgusting. You want to have things in a certain way that you like, but you seem to be oblivious to the fact that this desire of your has an impact to other people. I really hate when my liberties are taken away because a lot of people feel like it ... In almost all cases I think I would agree with you. But OtherWorld's points are interesting too. Police officers are public servants and they have serious obligations to the public safety. It's not like Jimmy at the pizza parlor saying he hates all the parents who come in with screaming kids and the parents start an obnoxious Facebook page to boycott and close the restaurant unless he's fired. A police officer characterizing a cop shooting someone, whether justified or not, as natural selection, doesn't sit right at all. Remember, these are people citizens pay to carry guns around society, keep "liberty" in perspective. Witch hunts and viral mobs and people getting fired are almost always shit, but it wouldn't hurt for someone to talk to him about this and see whether it's seeping into his work. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44311 Posts
On April 10 2015 02:53 oBlade wrote: In almost all cases I think I would agree with you. But OtherWorld's points are interesting too. Police officers are public servants and they have serious obligations to the public safety. It's not like Jimmy at the pizza parlor saying he hates all the parents who come in with screaming kids and the parents start an obnoxious Facebook page to boycott and close the restaurant unless he's fired. A police officer characterizing a cop shooting someone, whether justified or not, as natural selection, doesn't sit right at all. Remember, these are people citizens pay to carry guns around society, keep "liberty" in perspective. Witch hunts and viral mobs and people getting fired are almost always shit, but it wouldn't hurt for someone to talk to him about this and see whether it's seeping into his work. That's what I had been saying. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
However the recent events that have surfaced are incredibly heinous and the fact the officers in question are not being punished is an affront to both the position and the common man that lives under the rule | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23221 Posts
On April 10 2015 02:53 oBlade wrote: In almost all cases I think I would agree with you. But OtherWorld's points are interesting too. Police officers are public servants and they have serious obligations to the public safety. It's not like Jimmy at the pizza parlor saying he hates all the parents who come in with screaming kids and the parents start an obnoxious Facebook page to boycott and close the restaurant unless he's fired. A police officer characterizing a cop shooting someone, whether justified or not, as natural selection, doesn't sit right at all. Remember, these are people citizens pay to carry guns around society, keep "liberty" in perspective. Witch hunts and viral mobs and people getting fired are almost always shit, but it wouldn't hurt for someone to talk to him about this and see whether it's seeping into his work. The officer who shot the man had a previous encounter where he tased a man for what witnesses said was no reason, and the officer claimed was because of a struggle. The officer was not punished and the person he tased was never charged with anything. Like people have said what concerns me is what if this face book cop 'thinks' someone was reaching for something on his belt or whatever then out of fear of hearing him say "he's going for my gun/taser", they run, this cop has already decided he has a right and his training (in his view) has taught him, to shoot an unarmed fleeing man. I don't want those type of police. Not to mention he watches the cop plant 'an object' on the dead man and doesn't notice anything wrong? When a cop watches another cop shoot another man down, plant evidence, then lie about giving him CPR and applying pressure to the wounds, and then calls it natural selection, I know I am certainly uncomfortable with that guy roaming my streets with a badge and a gun. When he feels so comfortable about his "shoot fleeing men" philosophy to openly share it on face book it makes me think maybe this person doesn't have the decision making, or interpretive skills, I would expect from an officer of the law. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7297 Posts
Should probably report it because why not, the attitude hes got seems like its a problem for someone who is in a position to potentially one day use deadly force, he clearly isn't too interested in drawing lines about the appropriateness of deadly force to the situation at hand. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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codonbyte
United States840 Posts
Let this waste of life rot in jail for the rest of his life. I'm against the death-penalty, but I was really tempted to change my stance on it after seeing that video. Fucking cowardly pig. Edit: oh wow, I just realized the OP was asking if the cop who commented should be reported to his work-place, not the cop who actually murdered the guy. My answer is YES! Report him! Not that anything will come of it, though. Letting the police police themselves is laughable. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On April 10 2015 05:41 ninazerg wrote: I think you already know what I think. + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2YgZX9Thm0 + Show Spoiler + | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23221 Posts
I'm incredibly hyped for this movie. A new generation will be exposed to what that not so long ago time was like and an important part of rap history. The shit we could of seen if they had cell phone cameras back then, holy shit...Not that we didn't see ridiculous stuff from the full sized cameras... | ||
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Glowsphere
United States170 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23221 Posts
I guess I should of mentioned the officer who made the comments is a MP (military Police) meaning it's in his contract that his 'off the clock' behavior is under the purview of his employer. UCMJ even covers stuff like adultery while on leave, so behavior like calling a cop murdering a guy 'natural selection at it's finest' is certainly something that falls within their range. There's a good chance his bosses will be like some here and not think of it as a problem and he won't even get a slap on the wrist. So I think by reporting him I can have a clean conscious (particularly if this guy went on to do something like the cop in the video), what his bosses decide to do about it is on them. Thanks everyone for your thoughts. | ||
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
On April 10 2015 07:40 GreenHorizons wrote: I'm incredibly hyped for this movie. A new generation will be exposed to what that not so long ago time was like and an important part of rap history. The shit we could of seen if they had cell phone cameras back then, holy shit...Not that we didn't see ridiculous stuff from the full sized cameras... As an outsider, I'm really interested to know; Lately there's so much news about the US and the current state of cops vs black people. What was worse, 20 years or now? Would this movie really reflect reality compared to the spectate factor they add? | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
I think the post is out of line, but police officers especially should be at least reprimanded for making those tasteless comments. You expect that kind of stuff from dumb hicks, but police officers who are armed and are expected to "serve and protect" shouldn't use the notion of natural selection like that. For one, it's a really shitty thing to say, but it gives the impression that the police's job is to kill the "weak" or the "bad people". Perhaps not what he meant, but it's what it means nonetheless. I'd say he should be reported. As others have said, he'll get a slap on the wrist (if that). And while I don't necessarily think that people should be held accountable for crap they say on social media in some instances, this comment possibly reflects directly on this police officer's outlook on the job. It speaks of his mindset, his views, his possible "trigger happy" behavior on the job. It definitely deserves a serious talk. You are not providence, as a cop. You don't hand out death sentences, you have the option as a last resort. When you kill someone, it's not "natural selection", it's not "survival of the fittest", it's just sad. Perhaps it was just a comment made in the heat of the moment, but I like to think that my police officers are well trained and mentally stable. The comment he made speaks of a God complex, or at least looks like it. A dangerous thing for a cop to have, I would say. I want to add that what I've said that even if it was found out that the shooting in the video was technically justified (which would be absurd, have you seen that slow run, the 8 shots in the back, are you kidding me!), it would still not justify the comments made by the other cop. You shouldn't make light of a shooting like that. | ||
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