• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 15:36
CET 21:36
KST 05:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA)
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1487 users

The Art of Support - Weekly

Blogs > Ler
Post a Reply
Ler
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany543 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-26 05:17:09
March 26 2015 04:51 GMT
#1
Hello Liquiddota,

I am thinking of a weekly Blog that contains information about support game play in pubs, competitive dota and also drafting related stuff.

Some Ideas:
- Flavor of the Month Heroes
- Draft Analysis in competitive games
- Solo Supporting in Pubs
- Support Hero Guides for Pubs
- General Support Ideas
- Meta game shifts that are support related
... and much more

If you have other ideas what should be covered, let me know via the comments. I will read everything to make sure the weekly contains stuff that can help people.


Poll: Interested a Weekly?

Yes (104)
 
94%

I do notcare (4)
 
4%

No (3)
 
3%

111 total votes

Your vote: Interested a Weekly?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): I do notcare




My qualifications to make sure I will release high quality content :
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-strategy/465232-the-art-of-support-part-1
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-strategy/465496-the-art-of-support-part-2
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-strategy/466577-the-art-of-support-part-3
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-strategy/467403-the-art-of-support-part-4



Thanks for your answers!



Twitter: @Ler_GG | Facebook: lergg | youtube: lerlolgg | Twitch.tv/gg_nore | #ArtOfSupport
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
March 26 2015 07:09 GMT
#2
Looking forward to it! The topic I most want to see covered is detection vs. invis/shadow blade heroes, and the gold tradeoff between buying detection and having the items to survive an initiation from stealth.
Ler
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany543 Posts
March 26 2015 07:42 GMT
#3
On March 26 2015 16:09 Buckyman wrote:
Looking forward to it! The topic I most want to see covered is detection vs. invis/shadow blade heroes, and the gold tradeoff between buying detection and having the items to survive an initiation from stealth.



Oh boy - I got some super good example in mind for that from some of my teams official games
Twitter: @Ler_GG | Facebook: lergg | youtube: lerlolgg | Twitch.tv/gg_nore | #ArtOfSupport
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
March 26 2015 07:44 GMT
#4
Yes please! I would also like to learn more about itemisation in particular situations (any common or uncommon situation you can think of).
totalpigeon
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom162 Posts
March 26 2015 10:20 GMT
#5
Sounds like something I would be very interested in following. I would love to hear your thoughts about allocating farming space for supports, when and for how long it is appropriate and the best ways to go about it without sacrificing map control or putting cores at unnecessary risk of being caught out / falling behind.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 26 2015 13:37 GMT
#6
I really loved your first series on being a support and I would love more. I think it would be helpful for some low-mid tier players to really bore down on specific actions supports do, like ganking mid or stacking while still being a threat to lane. A lot of that stuff seems really simple, but really getting indepth on how to get the most out of the jungle in the first 10 minutes of the game would be awesome.

Also how to farm with supports without taking over a lane. That is one of the hardest parts when it comes to learning a new support is figuring out how to get farm without stealing it directly from my core. That might be to hear specific. But if you’re doing it weekly, it could be cool.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Ler
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany543 Posts
March 26 2015 15:21 GMT
#7
On March 26 2015 22:37 Plansix wrote:
I really loved your first series on being a support and I would love more. I think it would be helpful for some low-mid tier players to really bore down on specific actions supports do, like ganking mid or stacking while still being a threat to lane. A lot of that stuff seems really simple, but really getting indepth on how to get the most out of the jungle in the first 10 minutes of the game would be awesome.

Also how to farm with supports without taking over a lane. That is one of the hardest parts when it comes to learning a new support is figuring out how to get farm without stealing it directly from my core. That might be to hear specific. But if you’re doing it weekly, it could be cool.


Your points are all really solid. When I started to play with my current team, it was a long road for me to get efficient on the map. Where, when and what to farm at given game states. I will pick that up for sure.
Twitter: @Ler_GG | Facebook: lergg | youtube: lerlolgg | Twitch.tv/gg_nore | #ArtOfSupport
schmitty9800
Profile Joined August 2010
United States390 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-26 17:28:43
March 26 2015 17:22 GMT
#8
Awesome. I'd love an article about how move as a pure 5 when the 4 position is a jungler. (if that's too newby a topic I understand though :D)
Names
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada328 Posts
March 26 2015 18:17 GMT
#9
I'd like seeing highlights of replay analysis. Like following the support's PoV and analysing his positioning, decision making, builds vs matchups, strategy vs lineups, etc!

Though it might be more appropriate in video format of five to ten minutes.
Ler
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany543 Posts
March 26 2015 19:28 GMT
#10
On March 27 2015 03:17 Names wrote:
I'd like seeing highlights of replay analysis. Like following the support's PoV and analysing his positioning, decision making, builds vs matchups, strategy vs lineups, etc!

Though it might be more appropriate in video format of five to ten minutes.


I might cover it in both forms, as a video and in text.
Twitter: @Ler_GG | Facebook: lergg | youtube: lerlolgg | Twitch.tv/gg_nore | #ArtOfSupport
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
March 27 2015 19:53 GMT
#11
Looks like some excellent content lined up.

I'll be sure to kick my support playing friends towards it so they can finally start stacking ancients for me.
Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-27 20:43:41
March 27 2015 20:43 GMT
#12
I'm looking forward to whatever you write, as long as it's not accompanied by unnecessary numerical divisioning.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
March 27 2015 23:30 GMT
#13
A weekly will be very welcome
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 28 2015 07:13 GMT
#14
I'd actually love to see some math when necessary like when you wanna show how 2 builds differ in damage output. The thing that comes to my head immediately is when I try to do shorthand math on how to build my venge (3-2-0-1 vs 1-2-2-1) based on how my lane matchups and my lane partner and how the lane is "behaving".
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Ler
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany543 Posts
April 23 2015 04:17 GMT
#15
The first episode will be here shortly. It ll be all about the question "how can a support get farm" :=)
Twitter: @Ler_GG | Facebook: lergg | youtube: lerlolgg | Twitch.tv/gg_nore | #ArtOfSupport
Names
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada328 Posts
April 23 2015 13:09 GMT
#16
On April 23 2015 13:17 Ler wrote:
The first episode will be here shortly. It ll be all about the question "how can a support get farm" :=)

Nice, this is actually something i struggle alot with. Though I'm often stuck playing 6.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
20:00
LB SemiFinal
Sziky vs eOnzErG
ZZZero.O287
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 165
BRAT_OK 131
DisKSc2 33
Railgan 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 630
ZZZero.O 287
Dewaltoss 160
JulyZerg 59
Rock 40
910 32
Terrorterran 9
Dota 2
qojqva4705
canceldota34
Counter-Strike
fl0m1197
pashabiceps1
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu418
Khaldor196
Trikslyr73
Other Games
Grubby6820
Beastyqt782
B2W.Neo348
ToD237
DeMusliM230
RotterdaM212
ArmadaUGS130
XaKoH 108
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1220
StarCraft 2
angryscii 40
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 42
• StrangeGG 30
• davetesta29
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 12
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV1003
• lizZardDota299
• Ler90
League of Legends
• Stunt175
Other Games
• imaqtpie2304
• Shiphtur269
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
13h 24m
Krystianer vs Classic
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs Ryung
ByuN vs Nicoract
OSC
21h 24m
BSL 21
23h 24m
Cross vs Dewalt
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Wardi Open
1d 15h
OSC
2 days
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
OSC
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1 - W1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1 - W2
Escore Tournament S1 - W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.