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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 14 2014 13:15 GMT
#41
Yeah that is Korean culture though i understand that, but in our Nerdy lifestyle 90% of the nerds dont care about fashion? Hell i don't care about fashion either, 90% of the T shirts in my wardrobe are Penguin designer thing. Mainly due to i liked the Penguin logo (A penguin!!!!) and their reasonably priced £40-60 polo shirt - £70-90 Trainers - £100-120 Jackets. But like i said i also wear my Chelsea shirts around the house and to the pub. I also wear the polo shirts to family parties and friends parties (aslong as not a dress code, ala going clubbing after) i wear my Chelsea shorts as regular shorts in the summer etc. Pretty sure 90% of the target audience of Team Liquid merchandise do the same thing? And it will be EXTREMELY impossible for TL to some how branch into the fashion industry and start selling to everyone?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 13:42:03
May 14 2014 13:39 GMT
#42
On May 14 2014 22:15 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah that is Korean culture though i understand that, but in our Nerdy lifestyle 90% of the nerds dont care about fashion? Hell i don't care about fashion either, 90% of the T shirts in my wardrobe are Penguin designer thing. Mainly due to i liked the Penguin logo (A penguin!!!!) and their reasonably priced £40-60 polo shirt - £70-90 Trainers - £100-120 Jackets. But like i said i also wear my Chelsea shirts around the house and to the pub. I also wear the polo shirts to family parties and friends parties (aslong as not a dress code, ala going clubbing after) i wear my Chelsea shorts as regular shorts in the summer etc. Pretty sure 90% of the target audience of Team Liquid merchandise do the same thing? And it will be EXTREMELY impossible for TL to some how branch into the fashion industry and start selling to everyone?

"i don't care about fashion" is something guys repeat because they associate "fashion" as catwalks and supermodels and handbags and they don't want to seem stereotypically feminine. the reality is if you choose what color to wear, pick one shirt over another, look at another guy's shoes and think "nice kicks!" or do anything involving making a choice on what to wear and what looks like something appropriate for your personal image, you do care about fashion

now if you want to say "in most social situations i'm fine just wearing a t-shirt," that's cool - i'm the same way. but even when i'm just wearing a graphic design tee or other simple shirt, i still pick one out that i think looks good and feel like wearing that day and that's fashion, it applies to any type of clothes or accessories you spend money on. it doesn't make you "girly" or "metrosexual" or some kind of yolo swag club bro - everyone cares to some point how they look, even if the way you choose to look is trying to make a statement against dressing up too much

hell, even buying an alienware PC is a fashion statement, it's just not clothing fashion
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 13:57:57
May 14 2014 13:55 GMT
#43
On May 14 2014 22:39 Waise wrote:
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On May 14 2014 22:15 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah that is Korean culture though i understand that, but in our Nerdy lifestyle 90% of the nerds dont care about fashion? Hell i don't care about fashion either, 90% of the T shirts in my wardrobe are Penguin designer thing. Mainly due to i liked the Penguin logo (A penguin!!!!) and their reasonably priced £40-60 polo shirt - £70-90 Trainers - £100-120 Jackets. But like i said i also wear my Chelsea shirts around the house and to the pub. I also wear the polo shirts to family parties and friends parties (aslong as not a dress code, ala going clubbing after) i wear my Chelsea shorts as regular shorts in the summer etc. Pretty sure 90% of the target audience of Team Liquid merchandise do the same thing? And it will be EXTREMELY impossible for TL to some how branch into the fashion industry and start selling to everyone?

"i don't care about fashion" is something guys repeat because they associate "fashion" as catwalks and supermodels and handbags and they don't want to seem stereotypically feminine. the reality is if you choose what color to wear, pick one shirt over another, look at another guy's shoes and think "nice kicks!" or do anything involving making a choice on what to wear and what looks like something appropriate for your personal image, you do care about fashion

now if you want to say "in most social situations i'm fine just wearing a t-shirt," that's cool - i'm the same way. but even when i'm just wearing a graphic design tee or other simple shirt, i still pick one out that i think looks good and feel like wearing that day and that's fashion, it applies to any type of clothes or accessories you spend money on. it doesn't make you "girly" or "metrosexual" or some kind of yolo swag club bro - everyone cares to some point how they look, even if the way you choose to look is trying to make a statement against dressing up too much

hell, even buying an alienware PC is a fashion statement, it's just not clothing fashion


Yeah i know that side of Fashion but in terms of fashion as what you wear in certain places. Like if your going out to the pub would you think ill throw this on from my wardrobe or would you think right....its this kind of pub, these people going be there i need to wear X Y and Z.
I not saying anything wrong with fashion at all im just saying that if you bought a Team Liquid shirt your not buying it solely on looks. Your buying it to support the website, to support ESPORTS and because you like Team Liquid. Then the design comes in like choice 5?
If Chelsea made a shirt that looked awful, i would still buy it and wear it. I proven it when i purchased;
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Not my proudest moment, but at least i stood out huh xD

That to me is the only market i see for Team Liquid shirts. There isn't going to be a market for people to go "oh damn that looks to good not to buy" from the people looking in the Team Liquid site. Your either a Team Liquid fan or a fan of ESPORTS when your here. You will either buy stuff from TL or you won't there isn't anything in between. Thus i don't think the looks of things should be scrutinized into such a fracas that your going to hire Victoria Beckham to come design the next shirt. As long as it has the Liquid Horse on and is Blue 90% of people who were going to buy it still would.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
May 14 2014 19:13 GMT
#44
i would buy IM, KT, Acer, EG, STX Soul jerseys if they were available. id easily spend 120$ on shirts just to wear at home.
maybe TL can sell them for the other teams?
The blue TL-jersey is awesome aswell, just not the current goingout fashion, but a real feelgoodshirt
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
May 15 2014 03:12 GMT
#45
On May 14 2014 00:41 disciple wrote:
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
May 15 2014 04:01 GMT
#46
sell TL velcro sneakers

that's the only way
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
May 15 2014 12:17 GMT
#47
On May 14 2014 20:51 BisuDagger wrote:

Alternate approach: Just put Bisu on everything and I'll go broke.


sorry =(

nsfw
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
May 15 2014 12:45 GMT
#48
I think you killed bisudagger boonbag. He drowned in his own drool
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
May 15 2014 12:46 GMT
#49
On May 15 2014 21:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
I think you killed bisudagger boonbag. He drowned in his own drool


success x_x
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
May 15 2014 13:41 GMT
#50
On May 14 2014 01:59 lichter wrote:
Is this a veiled TL Sneakers announcement?


I was hoping for hair products :/
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19368 Posts
May 15 2014 15:15 GMT
#51
On May 15 2014 21:46 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 21:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
I think you killed bisudagger boonbag. He drowned in his own drool


success x_x

If you put savior on the other end then you've got a winner.
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-15 15:26:08
May 15 2014 15:21 GMT
#52
On May 16 2014 00:15 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 21:46 Boonbag wrote:
On May 15 2014 21:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
I think you killed bisudagger boonbag. He drowned in his own drool


success x_x

If you put savior on the other end then you've got a winner.


not really possible on this model sir
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19368 Posts
May 15 2014 15:34 GMT
#53
On May 16 2014 00:21 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2014 00:15 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 15 2014 21:46 Boonbag wrote:
On May 15 2014 21:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
I think you killed bisudagger boonbag. He drowned in his own drool


success x_x

If you put savior on the other end then you've got a winner.


not really possible on this model sir

I'm sure you can fit him on there. It can be really small.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
May 15 2014 15:57 GMT
#54
On May 16 2014 00:34 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2014 00:21 Boonbag wrote:
On May 16 2014 00:15 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 15 2014 21:46 Boonbag wrote:
On May 15 2014 21:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
I think you killed bisudagger boonbag. He drowned in his own drool


success x_x

If you put savior on the other end then you've got a winner.


not really possible on this model sir

I'm sure you can fit him on there. It can be really small.


i thought savior here was taboo

vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 15 2014 18:31 GMT
#55
I feel like esports merch is hard to wear in public because most of them have sponsors all over them and they don't want that, even though it makes sense why they are on there. The TL jacket is slick looking and not cluttered or messy like some shirts, and can be worn around, while other esports merch is less versatile and more situational.

Pro sports jerseys are common wear because of the spectrum of knowledge the public has about the teams and such, so there is less question. But every time I wear my TL blue jersey, I get questions about it, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I've had one person recognize it over the 6 months I've had the shirt, on a college campus, so I guess that tells you how many people know about TL.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
May 15 2014 20:54 GMT
#56
I adore my two TL hoodies and the winged horse shirt and really hope TL will keep offering both because I'd sure want to buy some more. Some of my other favourites are the Day9 and Axiom polos for the same reasons.

I don't think it's about lack of pride in showing your support for Starcraft but that a more subtle design is stylish and goes well with other clothing choices. I like having some of the stuff that's more obviously associated with a sports team too but would not wear it as often and I don't think that has anything to do with esports specifically.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 03:49:41
May 16 2014 01:48 GMT
#57
I agree, but for that to happen I suspect TL will need to hire an expert in fashion and apparel. T-shirts and hoodies are easy since they are fairly standard and the logo's design and colours only matter. I read a post about sneakers, those might work.

I look at brand stores like Zara that are adding watches or shoes to their collection, but I have yet to purchase one. I'm not a watch person, though I do love shoes.

/edit

I just googled vans, and I read: "Shop at Vans for shoes, clothing and accessories. Browse event news, upcoming products, contests, videos, and much more! Authentic since 1966."

and

When I google Teamliquid, I read: "Team Liquid is a community site focused on StarCraft 2 and Dota 2, with an emphasis on pro-gaming. Featuring StarCraft 2 and Dota 2 news and events, forums, ..."

Speaking of which, I think the text for teamliquid needs a rework. Cmon wax, wax something poetic or salesworthy. Maybe something like:

Watch the best Starcraft players and the biggest tournaments at Teamliquid. Browse event news, upcoming merchandise, contests, videos, and much more! Not authentic at all since 2014.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
May 16 2014 13:33 GMT
#58
Personally I think you need more accessories and stuff that is "fat dude" friendly. Give us hats, scarves, new pins, maybe a horse figure or something. I wish I could buy this Jacket but after the hoody was so slim fitting I don't dare spend more money on something I would feel self-conscious wearing. Though to be fair I'm probably in the minority here.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12758 Posts
May 16 2014 13:59 GMT
#59
korean designs are just the best, they look great, they look professional, they look high quality and subtle.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 15:39:04
May 16 2014 15:37 GMT
#60
picture must be photoshopped. how can one wear a bisupant without having an erection?

I would actually prefer the TL-shirt with full advertising. I love how it looks and would wear it everywhere
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