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Just got home from Blizzcon, I am exhausted, my feet hurt and some jerk nearly crashed into me on the 5 on the way home because he almost merged on to me.
But I have to get something off my chest.
If you were in the crowd at Blizzcon and you didn't applaud for sOs when he won his trophy then Fuck You. Manner the fuck up! This guy is in a foreign country, he's worked his ass off to get as far as he has and he outplayed 3 of the best players in the tournament to get as far as he had (with a total map score of 13-4 btw) and you owe it to him to show him some respect.
I don't care if he just knocked out Jaedong. I don't care that Jaedong is perhaps one of the most legendary Starcraft players of all time, the way the crowd at Blizzcon treated sOs is downright unacceptable. For those of you watching on stream the cameras did a good job of not showing it but people were filing out of their seats in droves while sOs was still making his way down the stage towards his trophy. These assholes didn't even have the courtesy of giving him an applause for winning the Global Finals of the WCS, yet they would hold up signs and chant Jaedong's name for something as simple as catching a scouting probe.
Fucking pathetic display of sportsmanship all around. I hope sOs was too caught up in his victory to notice how sour the crowd was towards him because i definitely noticed it.
Rant over. Epic fucking weekend but that was a sore spot that needed to be addressed before I could crash out peacefully.
  
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I actually really agree. I was really ambivalent as to who was winning the finals but sOs really grew on me, and when the finals started I was cheering for him.
But when he won and came out, I only heard a few voices cheer very hard for sOs, and everyone else just looked bummed out Jaedong lost. Respect the fact that he beat Jaedong in some entertaining games. good stuff
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this is normal. in other sports when the home teams lose there can be riots @_@
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On November 10 2013 16:54 Kingsky wrote:
this is normal. in other sports when the home teams lose there can be riots @_@
doesn't make it acceptable, and you can't really compare esports to traditional sports.
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Thats a shame to hear, he played very well and deserved the win there.
People sometimes
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On November 10 2013 17:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 16:54 Kingsky wrote:
this is normal. in other sports when the home teams lose there can be riots @_@ doesn't make it acceptable, and you can't really compare esports to traditional sports.
Why not? I see nothing wrong with not cheering for SoS if you are a die hard Jaedong fan, just as I see nothing wrong with not cheering for the Miami Heat when they beat the Spurs if you area diehard Spurs fan.
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On November 10 2013 17:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 16:54 Kingsky wrote:
this is normal. in other sports when the home teams lose there can be riots @_@ doesn't make it acceptable, and you can't really compare esports to traditional sports.
It really sucked for sOs, but it's acceptable. You can't force people to applaud for someone they don't want to celebrate victory for. In almost any case, people who are that emotionally invested will generally leave when their team/favorite is out. It's just really unfortunate how the games panned out and the fact that the stadiums were packed with so many jaedong fans. Casters didn't really help either, hyping the shit out of jaedong from start to finish.
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I seriously have to agree with this, from the stream though it didnt seem to bad. But from what people had to say thats just downright terrible. Even if people don't like sOs or his style or whatever, it's just so much better as a whole community if we congratulated him. He did amazing despite what people want to think.
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On November 10 2013 18:19 DropTester wrote:
I seriously have to agree with this, from the stream though it didnt seem to bad. But from what people had to say thats just downright terrible. Even if people don't like sOs or his style or whatever, it's just so much better as a whole community if we congratulated him. He did amazing despite what people want to think.
It's not an issue of people thinking what he did wasn't amazing. It's that the ultra-hyped fan favorite got wrecked in a very one-sided, soul-draining way. If the games were closer I don't think people would have been so despondent. I'm genuinely surprised this doesn't happen more often, sc2 crowds have generally been very indifferent to fan favorites when it comes to finals.
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On November 10 2013 17:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 16:54 Kingsky wrote:
this is normal. in other sports when the home teams lose there can be riots @_@ doesn't make it acceptable, and you can't really compare esports to traditional sports.
Are you serious? of course you can compare traditional Sports to esports... People will behave the way they want and feel. If everyone doesn't like sos for winning over jaedong that is their right. They can boo/leave whatever it is disrespectful but this about competition and we want our guy to win no matter what. So when they get destroyed after you put all your heart and emotion into cheering rooting and praying that he can find that way to come back and win. Then loses you are heart broken and rationally you could think that he didn't play up to his potential. Though you just feel upset. Personally I wasn't there I wouldn't have cheered for sos but I probably wouldn't have left I would stay and watch but that is up to the people there.
The only differences between esport competition and Traditional sports is we play through a different medium.
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I've left several events when the finals has played out. Even if my favourite team won. I am not there for the award ceremony. If you are, fine.
This is especially true for Dreamhack events in the Stockholm area, they suck at scheduling. Always ending when the last commuter train is just about to leave and you work the morning after. I've even had to leave those in the last game in order to be able to get home.
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I was rooting for sOs, because the more Jaedong loses, the better chance of him retiring and coming back to BroodWar. Not trying to sound trolly or anything, I just really miss Jaedong.
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Since the beginning of competitive gaming people have dreamt of it becoming like a real sport some day. I think somewhere down the road we are bound to see more and more stuff like this.
It's still douchy, but if you're passionately rooting for you favourite player ever ever and he loses, different people just react differently. I think silence is still "okay", while something like booing would obviously be very shitty.
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On November 10 2013 20:00 ninazerg wrote:
I was rooting for sOs, because the more Jaedong loses, the better chance of him retiring and coming back to BroodWar. Not trying to sound trolly or anything, I just really miss Jaedong.
I also miss Jaedong, but because he is a human being, I want what's best for him. I think he wants to be a SC2 pro, and I want him to do what he wants in his life.
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Bit of a shame, back in PL most JD fans were Oz fans as well, which is what sOs/sHy was part of as well. People.
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On November 10 2013 16:54 Kingsky wrote:
this is normal. in other sports when the home teams lose there can be riots @_@
In the US we don't riot when our team loses. We just leave the venue earlier to beat the traffic out. Let the victors wait in the parking lot.
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really it is as bad as you say? Oh my god! Well ive been laddering all day and my little girl is actually reading what im writing so i cant swear!!!!!! . . shes 6! This is just the way this community often seems sometimes and if it is the way you say . . . . terrible and they all should be ashamed if they didnt at least wait for him to leave the stage (unless they had a very #dicey bus to catch) but you a right, i watched every minute and the atmosphere even at the end looked amazing . . . you have ruined it for me!
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This is why I hate sc2(community) sometimes.
why do I have to cheer for someone I don't like/care for/ have an interest in.
I am sure those guys gave a clap or two, but they dont need to be there.
They were (most likely) cheering for JD, and JD didn't win, so welp its time to go home!
When your fav sports team doesn't win the world series, do you go "OH YEAH OTHER TEAM GOOD JOB, SO GOOD, WOW"
No, you don't.
Alot of this community is about being "fake-nice" and thats why I hate it.
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On November 10 2013 19:17 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 17:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:On November 10 2013 16:54 Kingsky wrote:
this is normal. in other sports when the home teams lose there can be riots @_@ doesn't make it acceptable, and you can't really compare esports to traditional sports. Are you serious? of course you can compare traditional Sports to esports... People will behave the way they want and feel. If everyone doesn't like sos for winning over jaedong that is their right. They can boo/leave whatever it is disrespectful but this about competition and we want our guy to win no matter what. So when they get destroyed after you put all your heart and emotion into cheering rooting and praying that he can find that way to come back and win. Then loses you are heart broken and rationally you could think that he didn't play up to his potential. Though you just feel upset. Personally I wasn't there I wouldn't have cheered for sos but I probably wouldn't have left I would stay and watch but that is up to the people there. The only differences between esport competition and Traditional sports is we play through a different medium.
Even in regular sports, rioting when the home team loses is unacceptable behavior. There's absolutely no reason to behave like whiny children just because your favorite team lost. Disappointment is natural, but allowing it to seep into our interactions with other people is rude.
In this scenario it's even worse because there are no 'home teams'. It's the frikkin Global Finals, it's the Olympics of e-sports, not some NBA or NFL game. There is no 'home advantage' for any one player. These players all worked really fucking hard, and they all deserve some respect. It's not our right to be the worse men, it's our responsibility to be the better men.
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On November 11 2013 02:08 starimk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 19:17 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:On November 10 2013 17:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:On November 10 2013 16:54 Kingsky wrote:
this is normal. in other sports when the home teams lose there can be riots @_@ doesn't make it acceptable, and you can't really compare esports to traditional sports. Are you serious? of course you can compare traditional Sports to esports... People will behave the way they want and feel. If everyone doesn't like sos for winning over jaedong that is their right. They can boo/leave whatever it is disrespectful but this about competition and we want our guy to win no matter what. So when they get destroyed after you put all your heart and emotion into cheering rooting and praying that he can find that way to come back and win. Then loses you are heart broken and rationally you could think that he didn't play up to his potential. Though you just feel upset. Personally I wasn't there I wouldn't have cheered for sos but I probably wouldn't have left I would stay and watch but that is up to the people there. The only differences between esport competition and Traditional sports is we play through a different medium. Even in regular sports, rioting when the home team loses is unacceptable behavior. There's absolutely no reason to behave like whiny children just because your favorite team lost. Disappointment is natural, but allowing it to seep into our interactions with other people is rude. In this scenario it's even worse because there are no 'home teams'. It's the frikkin Global Finals, it's the Olympics of e-sports, not some NBA or NFL game. There is no 'home advantage' for any one player. These players all worked really fucking hard, and they all deserve some respect. It's not our right to be the worse men, it's our responsibility to be the better men.
Youre wrong. When they step into the booth there is a Team JD and a Team sOs
Edit: Just an addition to my last 2 posts, if youre going to hark on the people who left early at the venue. Dont forget the tens of thousands that clicked [X] on the stream after s0s won.
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