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JonIrenicus
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
October 01 2013 21:23 GMT
#1
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 01 2013 21:54 GMT
#2
girls are never worth it, trust me
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MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 21:59:18
October 01 2013 21:56 GMT
#3
Freikörperkultur? was the first thing I googled for "fkk"
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 01 2013 22:01 GMT
#4
On October 02 2013 06:54 Shauni wrote:
girls are never worth it, trust me

I was with my ex for 7 years and I'm just starting to a new relationship. It stings sometimes but it's worth it.

Good luck OP. I've always been lucky and met girls I ended up liking, so I never have to date - in that regard I don't have much advice to give you. Try to meet people. Take risks too - you'll be rejected sometimes and it may feel embarrassing or whatever but just try to meet people if you can.

I'm sure people will come up with more specific advice . But maybe you just don't know enough people. Cheers and GL. Also, don't look desperate ever.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Myrtroll
Profile Joined December 2010
139 Posts
October 01 2013 22:11 GMT
#5
If you just want sex, buy a hooker.

If you actually want a relationship, talk to girls, and chat them up (preferably with a friendlink, chatting up strangers is something pickup artists do)
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
October 01 2013 22:24 GMT
#6
It sounds to me like you are inclined from peer pressure to have a girlfriend because everyone else is dating and you feel like you're "falling behind." You're nearly 21 years old, you're still really young. What I've learned over the years is that you want to be at least somewhat settled first, but most importantly you want to be an independent man. That doesn't necessarily mean living on your own, but rather you make your own decisions with integrity and that you know what you're doing/pursuing in life. Focus on this first, because women love a guy who can take care of himself and keep himself busy, just like how men love a woman who can be independent.

The other thing is that high school and early college dating isn't generally the wisest path to go down. It works for some or many people, i'm sure, but for most not really. I dated 6 girls between sophomore year of high school and junior year of college, and none lasted longer than 8 months. Sweet girls, but they weren't for me. The maturity fluctuates a lot. It's not that you can't understand girls or vice versa at that level, it just means people are not really set in life, and to get involved in a relationship in those circumstances only adds to the stress. There's too much pressure from academics and other aspects of life and maturity that can conflict with your personal choices in a relationship. People still have growing up to do in the college life. The fact is, you won't understand women completely, be it 5 years of marriage or 30 years. Women won't understand men completely either.

The questions you need to ask yourself are can I take care of myself right now? and Do I know what I want to do in life?, and others like those. If you aren't fully confident in who you are or where you're headed in life (career-wise), then how are you going to know how to uphold a relationship with a woman who wants you to be that man? A woman is not the answer to your life. I would focus on yourself first and really get set in stone with finances and what career you may want before you make the decision to take care of a woman, but if you wallow up your self-esteem and wonder why girls don't like you or whatever, then you're going to have a tougher time maintaining a potentially good relationship down the road.

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
October 01 2013 22:25 GMT
#7
21 is pretty young still. I don't think you should beat yourself up for that very reason.

I also don't know what a Fkk is.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
v1dom
Profile Joined August 2010
159 Posts
October 01 2013 22:26 GMT
#8
On October 02 2013 07:24 IronManSC wrote:
It sounds to me like you are inclined from peer pressure to have a girlfriend because everyone else is dating and you feel like you're "falling behind." You're nearly 21 years old, you're still really young. What I've learned over the years is that you want to be at least somewhat settled first, but most importantly you want to be an independent man. That doesn't necessarily mean living on your own, but rather you make your own decisions with integrity and that you know what you're doing/pursuing in life. Focus on this first, because women love a guy who can take care of himself and keep himself busy, just like how men love a woman who can be independent.

The other thing is that high school and early college dating isn't generally the wisest path to go down. It works for some or many people, i'm sure, but for most not really. I dated 6 girls between sophomore year of high school and junior year of college, and none lasted longer than 8 months. Sweet girls, but they weren't for me. The maturity fluctuates a lot. It's not that you can't understand girls or vice versa at that level, it just means people are not really set in life, and to get involved in a relationship in those circumstances only adds to the stress. There's too much pressure from academics and other aspects of life and maturity that can conflict with your personal choices in a relationship. People still have growing up to do in the college life. The fact is, you won't understand women completely, be it 5 years of marriage or 30 years. Women won't understand men completely either.

The questions you need to ask yourself are can I take care of myself right now? and Do I know what I want to do in life?, and others like those. If you aren't fully confident in who you are or where you're headed in life (career-wise), then how are you going to know how to uphold a relationship with a woman who wants you to be that man? A woman is not the answer to your life. I would focus on yourself first and really get set in stone with finances and what career you may want before you make the decision to take care of a woman, but if you wallow up your self-esteem and wonder why girls don't like you or whatever, then you're going to have a tougher time maintaining a potentially good relationship down the road.

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.


Nailed it.
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ibraishome
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany337 Posts
October 01 2013 22:31 GMT
#9
On October 02 2013 07:25 ninazerg wrote:
21 is pretty young still. I don't think you should beat yourself up for that very reason.

I also don't know what a Fkk is.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FKK

Mostly FKK relates to a beach, where almost everybody is naked.
RedTail
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States104 Posts
October 01 2013 22:40 GMT
#10
I disagree with the sentiment that you have to get yourself fully good on what you want to do and then afterwards worry about romance. You can do both at the same time. If you forget about women and focus on career or just wait for one to come along it may not happen (or at least a lot longer than you want it to.)

Maybe you are not ready for a serious girlfriend, but you should be able to talk flirt and kiss girls even if you are not established.

There are things to learn with women and you have to understand that the relationships you have with women is just like a lot of other things in life (as is being social).

There are many subtleties that you must learn to have relationships with women, and i agree that at the same time you should have fundamentals about yourself figured out. You can do both because you will learn things about yourself while being with women.

Try very little things, chatting a girl up, or making flirty eye contact with women (it's not all about kissing or sleeping together or being boyfriend girlfriend.) It's about having a woman, or women in your life that make you feel good, and you make them feel good. It's a special kind of thing is what makes a relationship.
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
October 01 2013 22:41 GMT
#11
On October 02 2013 06:54 Shauni wrote:
girls are never worth it, trust me


My girlfriend (soon to be fiance) is definitely worth it. I have never met such an independent, loving, supportive woman who cares for me deeply on so many levels. I would not trade her for the world.

You make it sound like it's entirely a woman's fault. If you are indeed concluding that girls are universally not worth it, then perhaps you may be the problem.
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IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
October 01 2013 22:44 GMT
#12
On October 02 2013 07:40 RedTail wrote:
I disagree with the sentiment that you have to get yourself fully good on what you want to do and then afterwards worry about romance. You can do both at the same time. If you forget about women and focus on career or just wait for one to come along it may not happen (or at least a lot longer than you want it to.)


I didn't say he has to focus on his life first. I just said it's probably the best thing to do and it is widely based on who he is, his maturity, and what his priorities are. I even said people can date in college and do just fine, but that he shouldn't worry about finding a stable relationship. Did you even read my entire post?
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RedTail
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States104 Posts
October 01 2013 22:50 GMT
#13
your post is very anti girl
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
October 01 2013 22:52 GMT
#14
Okay so I'll be real. 4 girls is not much of an effort really, so don't feel bad about failing with those 4. There are many different types of girls with different problems and personalities so maybe you just haven't found the right type of girl yet. I have found that many girls in their early 20s get scared when you go on a "date" so it's better to do stuff like walk around the park with her instead of going to dinner, or maybe go grab a quick brunch somewhere, nothing that's too much of a time investment. That way if you creep them out or something they don't have to spend very long with you. lol

I'm 24 and have had one girlfriend and she was really manipulative and stuff. Trust me there are girls out there that you don't want to meet. But I'm sure most of the girls out there are nice and would give you a chance if you try out your confidence. Idk, if you're nice or whatever, play to that strength and be cute and adorable... don't be super shy just be the cute kid who's also nice.

Anyway I don't have much good advice to give as I am in a similar situation. Really, when I was about your age I started to get wanderlust, and it got stronger through my early twenties up till about 3-4 months ago when I realized I'm actually not desperate lol. I can wait a bit longer, I just have to get my foot out the door first....

Don't get too worked up about it because you have lots of time. However do take action towards what you want because the feeling might be really strong in a couple years if you don't get there and you might get really needy and depressed and shit. So definitely start going that direction. Don't just sit inside all day. Go out and meet people.
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Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 23:03:32
October 01 2013 23:03 GMT
#15
The problem is that, looking into my relationships, I don't know what I did wrong. I've tried my luck with 4 girls in my life, and I succedeed with two. Well partially succedeed. I mean that I was able to achieve the "kiss" status (forgive me for the use of the words), but I wasn't able to push it further. With both.


the TL community will be able to help you more if you provide some replays details.
Dess.JadeFalcon
U_G_L_Y
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 23:23:55
October 01 2013 23:07 GMT
#16
On October 02 2013 06:23 JonIrenicus wrote:
The problem is that, looking into my relationships, I don't know what I did wrong.

**SNIP**

I'm a really kind guy, and I never lied to any girl. I was always someone who would willingly give his best if he could to the other girlfriend he was trying to meet.

Watch your replays, bro

Nice guys finish last. Your insecurity, your willingness to do whatever it takes, is exactly your problem.

You need confidence. I don't know how to help you acquire it, but that is what you lack.

Edit: Here's a suggestion to get rid of your pussy attitude:
Lift weights at least twice a week for a year. Like, do a real program, don't just half ass it;
12 sets of 10 reps for chest exercises (Bench press and flies, if you don't have a spotter, use a machine)
6 sets of 10 curls, (no swinging your back!)
6 sets of 10 triceps exercises (cable pulldowns, chair dips, overhead extensions, etc)

Do these with enough weight that you fail on or very near the 10th rep of each set. Drink a protein shake with 60g protein and 5 g creatine every day. If you are fat, stop drinking soda and eating cookies. If you are scrawny, eat until you are ready to puke, 5 times a day.

This will give you the confidence you lack. You will realize that you are an awesome person, and with that knowledge, you will have no problems getting girls.

If you want to stay in Gold league and continue to not make workers and get supply blocked because you aren't dedicated to achieving your goal, that's fine too.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 01 2013 23:10 GMT
#17
Don't get a partner 'cause you feel "left out," get one because you meet someone you actually like. Unless you really just care about the sex, then yeah, get a hooker/go to a bar ...

Also, you're 20. First of all, very few people know what they want when they're 20, potential partners and you included. Second of all, the age bracket you will most likely be dating in is not ideal for long-term relationships. There will be so many changes that next thing you know, you'll be trying to maintain a shitty long-distance relationship with your partner, because circumstances can alter that fast.

A good relationship is all about timing and a little bit of luck -- it's about people who meet each other and click very well and are in the same phase of life (or willing to sacrifice a fuckton for each other). Otherwise you or your partner will be in for a lot of pain.

One thing more: If you're distressed about your friend situation, then do something about it. I don't mean, "Oh, everyone else has a gf and isn't paying any attention to me anymore, I should logically get a gf too!" (which is what your OP sounds like), but, "Oh, everyone else has a gf and isn't paying attention to me anymore, I should be more proactive in inviting them to stuff/I should be making new friends/I should be getting new hobbies." And I know that's really hard for some people, but heck, if I can do it, then I'm sure you can too.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32073 Posts
October 01 2013 23:24 GMT
#18
On October 02 2013 06:54 Shauni wrote:
girls are never worth it, trust me

yeah just stick to smelling coats
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 23:27:38
October 01 2013 23:25 GMT
#19
On October 02 2013 08:24 QuanticHawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 06:54 Shauni wrote:
girls are never worth it, trust me

yeah just stick to smelling coats

Not as tactless as I would put it, but yeah, he's right. Shauni isn't really qualified to have opinions on girls. Just click the blog button on his post if you want to find out why.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 01 2013 23:26 GMT
#20
On October 02 2013 07:26 v1dom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 07:24 IronManSC wrote:
It sounds to me like you are inclined from peer pressure to have a girlfriend because everyone else is dating and you feel like you're "falling behind." You're nearly 21 years old, you're still really young. What I've learned over the years is that you want to be at least somewhat settled first, but most importantly you want to be an independent man. That doesn't necessarily mean living on your own, but rather you make your own decisions with integrity and that you know what you're doing/pursuing in life. Focus on this first, because women love a guy who can take care of himself and keep himself busy, just like how men love a woman who can be independent.

The other thing is that high school and early college dating isn't generally the wisest path to go down. It works for some or many people, i'm sure, but for most not really. I dated 6 girls between sophomore year of high school and junior year of college, and none lasted longer than 8 months. Sweet girls, but they weren't for me. The maturity fluctuates a lot. It's not that you can't understand girls or vice versa at that level, it just means people are not really set in life, and to get involved in a relationship in those circumstances only adds to the stress. There's too much pressure from academics and other aspects of life and maturity that can conflict with your personal choices in a relationship. People still have growing up to do in the college life. The fact is, you won't understand women completely, be it 5 years of marriage or 30 years. Women won't understand men completely either.

The questions you need to ask yourself are can I take care of myself right now? and Do I know what I want to do in life?, and others like those. If you aren't fully confident in who you are or where you're headed in life (career-wise), then how are you going to know how to uphold a relationship with a woman who wants you to be that man? A woman is not the answer to your life. I would focus on yourself first and really get set in stone with finances and what career you may want before you make the decision to take care of a woman, but if you wallow up your self-esteem and wonder why girls don't like you or whatever, then you're going to have a tougher time maintaining a potentially good relationship down the road.

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.


Nailed it.


Nailed what? His post is just old fashioned and backwards. Have your finance and career set in stone before entering a relationship? I hope that's some kind of terrible joke.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
October 01 2013 23:28 GMT
#21
Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks. Women are never going to make you happy, only when you are already happy and fulfilled will a decent woman want to be with you. If you really want to find a good girlfriend, stop caring about woman and focus on yourself.
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
October 01 2013 23:41 GMT
#22
On October 02 2013 08:26 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 07:26 v1dom wrote:
On October 02 2013 07:24 IronManSC wrote:
It sounds to me like you are inclined from peer pressure to have a girlfriend because everyone else is dating and you feel like you're "falling behind." You're nearly 21 years old, you're still really young. What I've learned over the years is that you want to be at least somewhat settled first, but most importantly you want to be an independent man. That doesn't necessarily mean living on your own, but rather you make your own decisions with integrity and that you know what you're doing/pursuing in life. Focus on this first, because women love a guy who can take care of himself and keep himself busy, just like how men love a woman who can be independent.

The other thing is that high school and early college dating isn't generally the wisest path to go down. It works for some or many people, i'm sure, but for most not really. I dated 6 girls between sophomore year of high school and junior year of college, and none lasted longer than 8 months. Sweet girls, but they weren't for me. The maturity fluctuates a lot. It's not that you can't understand girls or vice versa at that level, it just means people are not really set in life, and to get involved in a relationship in those circumstances only adds to the stress. There's too much pressure from academics and other aspects of life and maturity that can conflict with your personal choices in a relationship. People still have growing up to do in the college life. The fact is, you won't understand women completely, be it 5 years of marriage or 30 years. Women won't understand men completely either.

The questions you need to ask yourself are can I take care of myself right now? and Do I know what I want to do in life?, and others like those. If you aren't fully confident in who you are or where you're headed in life (career-wise), then how are you going to know how to uphold a relationship with a woman who wants you to be that man? A woman is not the answer to your life. I would focus on yourself first and really get set in stone with finances and what career you may want before you make the decision to take care of a woman, but if you wallow up your self-esteem and wonder why girls don't like you or whatever, then you're going to have a tougher time maintaining a potentially good relationship down the road.

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.


Nailed it.


Nailed what? His post is just old fashioned and backwards. Have your finance and career set in stone before entering a relationship? I hope that's some kind of terrible joke.


I didn't say have your life all figured out first. I just said it's better to know who you are and what you're aiming for; an ambition to pursue something in life. A woman would much rather date this type of guy (even if he isn't 100% sure what he wants to do yet) than a guy who sits inside all day and applies online to jobs without having any ambition to learn something more.

I don't know if the OP has a career path figured out yet or what, but based on his lower self-esteem and confidence in pursuing women, according to how he worded it, I'd say he would be better off getting his priorities in line first (to an extent at least), before going woman hunting because that won't really solve anything, especially at the age of 20. He would likely be more desperate and clingy in trying to get a girl to like him and trying to play the game right. It appears he wants a girlfriend just so that he can have a girlfriend. It's not the right mindset to have.

But that's also why I said this in the last part of my post:

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.

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U_G_L_Y
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 23:44:21
October 01 2013 23:43 GMT
#23
Also, throw away the Pokemon t-shirts, track pants and hoodies, and get some grown-up clothes. If you don't know what you should be looking for, there's a guy on TL who blogs occasionally about fashion that knows his stuff.

If you can't afford nice clothes, then you need a plan to make money. Make yourself a Benz outta that Datsun, as Kanye says. Go to college, start selling drugs, get a really dangerous job, whatever.

Worry about becoming a "10" yourself, then girls will not be a problem.
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
October 01 2013 23:45 GMT
#24
Why is Shauni of all people making fun of other peoples' advice....
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
U_G_L_Y
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 00:23:14
October 01 2013 23:45 GMT
#25
On October 02 2013 08:41 IronManSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 08:26 Shauni wrote:
On October 02 2013 07:26 v1dom wrote:
On October 02 2013 07:24 IronManSC wrote:
It sounds to me like you are inclined from peer pressure to have a girlfriend because everyone else is dating and you feel like you're "falling behind." You're nearly 21 years old, you're still really young. What I've learned over the years is that you want to be at least somewhat settled first, but most importantly you want to be an independent man. That doesn't necessarily mean living on your own, but rather you make your own decisions with integrity and that you know what you're doing/pursuing in life. Focus on this first, because women love a guy who can take care of himself and keep himself busy, just like how men love a woman who can be independent.

The other thing is that high school and early college dating isn't generally the wisest path to go down. It works for some or many people, i'm sure, but for most not really. I dated 6 girls between sophomore year of high school and junior year of college, and none lasted longer than 8 months. Sweet girls, but they weren't for me. The maturity fluctuates a lot. It's not that you can't understand girls or vice versa at that level, it just means people are not really set in life, and to get involved in a relationship in those circumstances only adds to the stress. There's too much pressure from academics and other aspects of life and maturity that can conflict with your personal choices in a relationship. People still have growing up to do in the college life. The fact is, you won't understand women completely, be it 5 years of marriage or 30 years. Women won't understand men completely either.

The questions you need to ask yourself are can I take care of myself right now? and Do I know what I want to do in life?, and others like those. If you aren't fully confident in who you are or where you're headed in life (career-wise), then how are you going to know how to uphold a relationship with a woman who wants you to be that man? A woman is not the answer to your life. I would focus on yourself first and really get set in stone with finances and what career you may want before you make the decision to take care of a woman, but if you wallow up your self-esteem and wonder why girls don't like you or whatever, then you're going to have a tougher time maintaining a potentially good relationship down the road.

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.


Nailed it.


Nailed what? His post is just old fashioned and backwards. Have your finance and career set in stone before entering a relationship? I hope that's some kind of terrible joke.


I didn't say have your life all figured out first. I just said it's better to know who you are and what you're aiming for; an ambition to pursue something in life. A woman would much rather date this type of guy (even if he isn't 100% sure what he wants to do yet) than a guy who sits inside all day and applies online to jobs without having any ambition to learn something more.

I don't know if the OP has a career path figured out yet or what, but based on his lower self-esteem and confidence in pursuing women, according to how he worded it, I'd say he would be better off getting his priorities in line first (to an extent at least), before going woman hunting because that won't really solve anything, especially at the age of 20. He would likely be more desperate and clingy in trying to get a girl to like him and trying to play the game right. It appears he wants a girlfriend just so that he can have a girlfriend. It's not the right mindset to have.

But that's also why I said this in the last part of my post:

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.



If that's what you want most, you can't "not worry about it" so my advice is to channel that worry into improving yourself.

Edit: This post is worthy of my 500th
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5063 Posts
October 02 2013 00:06 GMT
#26
On October 02 2013 08:45 Feartheguru wrote:
Why is Shauni of all people making fun of other peoples' advice....

FBH #1!
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 00:18:49
October 02 2013 00:10 GMT
#27
On October 02 2013 08:41 IronManSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 08:26 Shauni wrote:
On October 02 2013 07:26 v1dom wrote:
On October 02 2013 07:24 IronManSC wrote:
It sounds to me like you are inclined from peer pressure to have a girlfriend because everyone else is dating and you feel like you're "falling behind." You're nearly 21 years old, you're still really young. What I've learned over the years is that you want to be at least somewhat settled first, but most importantly you want to be an independent man. That doesn't necessarily mean living on your own, but rather you make your own decisions with integrity and that you know what you're doing/pursuing in life. Focus on this first, because women love a guy who can take care of himself and keep himself busy, just like how men love a woman who can be independent.

The other thing is that high school and early college dating isn't generally the wisest path to go down. It works for some or many people, i'm sure, but for most not really. I dated 6 girls between sophomore year of high school and junior year of college, and none lasted longer than 8 months. Sweet girls, but they weren't for me. The maturity fluctuates a lot. It's not that you can't understand girls or vice versa at that level, it just means people are not really set in life, and to get involved in a relationship in those circumstances only adds to the stress. There's too much pressure from academics and other aspects of life and maturity that can conflict with your personal choices in a relationship. People still have growing up to do in the college life. The fact is, you won't understand women completely, be it 5 years of marriage or 30 years. Women won't understand men completely either.

The questions you need to ask yourself are can I take care of myself right now? and Do I know what I want to do in life?, and others like those. If you aren't fully confident in who you are or where you're headed in life (career-wise), then how are you going to know how to uphold a relationship with a woman who wants you to be that man? A woman is not the answer to your life. I would focus on yourself first and really get set in stone with finances and what career you may want before you make the decision to take care of a woman, but if you wallow up your self-esteem and wonder why girls don't like you or whatever, then you're going to have a tougher time maintaining a potentially good relationship down the road.

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.


Nailed it.


Nailed what? His post is just old fashioned and backwards. Have your finance and career set in stone before entering a relationship? I hope that's some kind of terrible joke.


I didn't say have your life all figured out first. I just said it's better to know who you are and what you're aiming for; an ambition to pursue something in life. A woman would much rather date this type of guy (even if he isn't 100% sure what he wants to do yet) than a guy who sits inside all day and applies online to jobs without having any ambition to learn something more.

I don't know if the OP has a career path figured out yet or what, but based on his lower self-esteem and confidence in pursuing women, according to how he worded it, I'd say he would be better off getting his priorities in line first (to an extent at least), before going woman hunting because that won't really solve anything, especially at the age of 20. He would likely be more desperate and clingy in trying to get a girl to like him and trying to play the game right. It appears he wants a girlfriend just so that he can have a girlfriend. It's not the right mindset to have.

But that's also why I said this in the last part of my post:

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.


It seems to be a decent mindset when you're 20, though that phase should probably happen a bit sooner. Getting experience is the right mindset when you're young. I say any way he can get one is fine. He needs to make the mistakes and have terrible breakups before worrying about anything long-term. Because he's just not going to know anything if he doesn't get some experience first.

But yeah, get more hobbies and all that too.

Edit: Also don't think that people expect you to be perfect. They don't. So don't get hung up on yourself and your problems; everyone has something they need to work on, and the sooner you figure that out the sooner you'll quit hating yourself over minor bullshit.
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Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 00:19:41
October 02 2013 00:18 GMT
#28
You had a girlfriend remember? Maybe if you weren't so power hungry and obsessed with revenge, your girlfriend might have forgiven you.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
October 02 2013 00:19 GMT
#29
On October 02 2013 08:26 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 07:26 v1dom wrote:
On October 02 2013 07:24 IronManSC wrote:
It sounds to me like you are inclined from peer pressure to have a girlfriend because everyone else is dating and you feel like you're "falling behind." You're nearly 21 years old, you're still really young. What I've learned over the years is that you want to be at least somewhat settled first, but most importantly you want to be an independent man. That doesn't necessarily mean living on your own, but rather you make your own decisions with integrity and that you know what you're doing/pursuing in life. Focus on this first, because women love a guy who can take care of himself and keep himself busy, just like how men love a woman who can be independent.

The other thing is that high school and early college dating isn't generally the wisest path to go down. It works for some or many people, i'm sure, but for most not really. I dated 6 girls between sophomore year of high school and junior year of college, and none lasted longer than 8 months. Sweet girls, but they weren't for me. The maturity fluctuates a lot. It's not that you can't understand girls or vice versa at that level, it just means people are not really set in life, and to get involved in a relationship in those circumstances only adds to the stress. There's too much pressure from academics and other aspects of life and maturity that can conflict with your personal choices in a relationship. People still have growing up to do in the college life. The fact is, you won't understand women completely, be it 5 years of marriage or 30 years. Women won't understand men completely either.

The questions you need to ask yourself are can I take care of myself right now? and Do I know what I want to do in life?, and others like those. If you aren't fully confident in who you are or where you're headed in life (career-wise), then how are you going to know how to uphold a relationship with a woman who wants you to be that man? A woman is not the answer to your life. I would focus on yourself first and really get set in stone with finances and what career you may want before you make the decision to take care of a woman, but if you wallow up your self-esteem and wonder why girls don't like you or whatever, then you're going to have a tougher time maintaining a potentially good relationship down the road.

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.


Nailed it.


Nailed what? His post is just old fashioned and backwards. Have your finance and career set in stone before entering a relationship? I hope that's some kind of terrible joke.


Completely agree with this guy (not the super long quote). Relationships need not be put on hold just because your life is not perfect, if so we would all be the last generation because rarely is anyone at that perfect level. Relationships can come at any time and any kinda trouble. Ya, even highschool losers have girlfriends, and I doubt most of them have anything in their life in order. Of course having more time to dedicate to your "girl" is never a bad thing, but don
t worry man, you can do it
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 02 2013 01:53 GMT
#30
I haven't had a banana in a month, you don't see me bragging about it.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 02 2013 03:05 GMT
#31
On October 02 2013 09:19 MaxField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 08:26 Shauni wrote:
On October 02 2013 07:26 v1dom wrote:
On October 02 2013 07:24 IronManSC wrote:
It sounds to me like you are inclined from peer pressure to have a girlfriend because everyone else is dating and you feel like you're "falling behind." You're nearly 21 years old, you're still really young. What I've learned over the years is that you want to be at least somewhat settled first, but most importantly you want to be an independent man. That doesn't necessarily mean living on your own, but rather you make your own decisions with integrity and that you know what you're doing/pursuing in life. Focus on this first, because women love a guy who can take care of himself and keep himself busy, just like how men love a woman who can be independent.

The other thing is that high school and early college dating isn't generally the wisest path to go down. It works for some or many people, i'm sure, but for most not really. I dated 6 girls between sophomore year of high school and junior year of college, and none lasted longer than 8 months. Sweet girls, but they weren't for me. The maturity fluctuates a lot. It's not that you can't understand girls or vice versa at that level, it just means people are not really set in life, and to get involved in a relationship in those circumstances only adds to the stress. There's too much pressure from academics and other aspects of life and maturity that can conflict with your personal choices in a relationship. People still have growing up to do in the college life. The fact is, you won't understand women completely, be it 5 years of marriage or 30 years. Women won't understand men completely either.

The questions you need to ask yourself are can I take care of myself right now? and Do I know what I want to do in life?, and others like those. If you aren't fully confident in who you are or where you're headed in life (career-wise), then how are you going to know how to uphold a relationship with a woman who wants you to be that man? A woman is not the answer to your life. I would focus on yourself first and really get set in stone with finances and what career you may want before you make the decision to take care of a woman, but if you wallow up your self-esteem and wonder why girls don't like you or whatever, then you're going to have a tougher time maintaining a potentially good relationship down the road.

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.


Nailed it.


Nailed what? His post is just old fashioned and backwards. Have your finance and career set in stone before entering a relationship? I hope that's some kind of terrible joke.


Completely agree with this guy (not the super long quote). Relationships need not be put on hold just because your life is not perfect, if so we would all be the last generation because rarely is anyone at that perfect level. Relationships can come at any time and any kinda trouble. Ya, even highschool losers have girlfriends, and I doubt most of them have anything in their life in order. Of course having more time to dedicate to your "girl" is never a bad thing, but don
t worry man, you can do it

It's a thing they heard in a movie or something. Don't settle and have kids until you've got your shit together (preferably). For dating though? Come on.
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 02 2013 03:29 GMT
#32
I think you should go to the FKK
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Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
October 02 2013 03:42 GMT
#33
My go to advice for this type of blog:

Get on CL/match/whatever.

Message as many FAT chicks as possible, of all ethnicities - even those you aren't comfortable with. Chat them, up, go on a date, and get them alone somehow.

They will put out.

100% guaranteed.

Confidence boosted.

Then work on skinny ones.
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 02 2013 04:15 GMT
#34
On October 02 2013 12:42 Burrfoot wrote:
My go to advice for this type of blog:

Get on CL/match/whatever.

Message as many FAT chicks as possible, of all ethnicities - even those you aren't comfortable with. Chat them, up, go on a date, and get them alone somehow.

They will put out.

100% guaranteed.

Confidence boosted.

Then work on skinny ones.



Only thing fat chicks are good for: confidence boosting.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Serpest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States603 Posts
October 02 2013 06:54 GMT
#35
No no no no. Fat chicks are like mopeds - fun to right, just don't let your friends find out... That's not exactly confidence boosting. Unless you're into that sort of thing.

OP, your goal in life shouldn't be to pick up girls - not if you want a healthy relationship. Ignore them. Focus on what drives you. Women respect self-confidence, and having confidence in yourself without needing to rely on the opposite gender's adoration makes you far more attractive a person. Also, looking good doesn't hurt. You live in Italy, so I'm certain it's not difficult for you to acquire proper bespoke clothing. A good suit and wardrobe helps you feel good about yourself and provides you with the clothing necessary for the working life.

There's a saying: Clothes don't make the man - the man wearing the clothes makes the man. Just be yourself and eventually you will find a girl who also finds you irresistible (perhaps after much persuasion). Either make them come to you or be really, really, really persistent. GL.
A person that attempts to diagnose themselves has a fool for a doctor and a bigger fool for a patient.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 02 2013 07:08 GMT
#36
Introverted nerds are the fat chicks of the male sex. Except they aren't even fun to ride.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
October 02 2013 07:52 GMT
#37
my official 3 part formula for getting a hot gf.

1) StrongLifts 5X5.
2) PrecisionNutrition.com
3) Camaro Z28.
peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
October 02 2013 09:24 GMT
#38
T_T OP is seriously misguided, I fear this is true for a large group of young adults. You don't unlock something called a girlfriend or sex like it's an achievement, you come accross someone you like and do fun things with them. The harder you try, the more desperate you get, the less likely you are to get a girl. My advice is to try and go to places you like (such as sports or hobbies), and hopefully there are girls there you can meet.
- One does not simply walk into a bar and start calling the shots.
- Failure doesn't mean you are a failure it just means you haven't succeeded yet.
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
October 02 2013 11:54 GMT
#39
On October 02 2013 06:54 Shauni wrote:
girls are never worth it, trust me


Please read Shauni's blog before you take him as an authority. Girls are awesome.
3 Hatch Before Cool
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
October 02 2013 12:46 GMT
#40
On October 02 2013 07:24 IronManSC wrote:
It sounds to me like you are inclined from peer pressure to have a girlfriend because everyone else is dating and you feel like you're "falling behind." You're nearly 21 years old, you're still really young. What I've learned over the years is that you want to be at least somewhat settled first, but most importantly you want to be an independent man. That doesn't necessarily mean living on your own, but rather you make your own decisions with integrity and that you know what you're doing/pursuing in life. Focus on this first, because women love a guy who can take care of himself and keep himself busy, just like how men love a woman who can be independent.

The other thing is that high school and early college dating isn't generally the wisest path to go down. It works for some or many people, i'm sure, but for most not really. I dated 6 girls between sophomore year of high school and junior year of college, and none lasted longer than 8 months. Sweet girls, but they weren't for me. The maturity fluctuates a lot. It's not that you can't understand girls or vice versa at that level, it just means people are not really set in life, and to get involved in a relationship in those circumstances only adds to the stress. There's too much pressure from academics and other aspects of life and maturity that can conflict with your personal choices in a relationship. People still have growing up to do in the college life. The fact is, you won't understand women completely, be it 5 years of marriage or 30 years. Women won't understand men completely either.

The questions you need to ask yourself are can I take care of myself right now? and Do I know what I want to do in life?, and others like those. If you aren't fully confident in who you are or where you're headed in life (career-wise), then how are you going to know how to uphold a relationship with a woman who wants you to be that man? A woman is not the answer to your life. I would focus on yourself first and really get set in stone with finances and what career you may want before you make the decision to take care of a woman, but if you wallow up your self-esteem and wonder why girls don't like you or whatever, then you're going to have a tougher time maintaining a potentially good relationship down the road.

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.

I don`t post much anymore but this is a really good post. Agree fully. Personal identity is the most important thing for confidence because it comes from within yourself (not what others give you, which is what most people think as confidence).
Power of Ze
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
October 02 2013 12:50 GMT
#41
On October 02 2013 08:26 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 07:26 v1dom wrote:
On October 02 2013 07:24 IronManSC wrote:
It sounds to me like you are inclined from peer pressure to have a girlfriend because everyone else is dating and you feel like you're "falling behind." You're nearly 21 years old, you're still really young. What I've learned over the years is that you want to be at least somewhat settled first, but most importantly you want to be an independent man. That doesn't necessarily mean living on your own, but rather you make your own decisions with integrity and that you know what you're doing/pursuing in life. Focus on this first, because women love a guy who can take care of himself and keep himself busy, just like how men love a woman who can be independent.

The other thing is that high school and early college dating isn't generally the wisest path to go down. It works for some or many people, i'm sure, but for most not really. I dated 6 girls between sophomore year of high school and junior year of college, and none lasted longer than 8 months. Sweet girls, but they weren't for me. The maturity fluctuates a lot. It's not that you can't understand girls or vice versa at that level, it just means people are not really set in life, and to get involved in a relationship in those circumstances only adds to the stress. There's too much pressure from academics and other aspects of life and maturity that can conflict with your personal choices in a relationship. People still have growing up to do in the college life. The fact is, you won't understand women completely, be it 5 years of marriage or 30 years. Women won't understand men completely either.

The questions you need to ask yourself are can I take care of myself right now? and Do I know what I want to do in life?, and others like those. If you aren't fully confident in who you are or where you're headed in life (career-wise), then how are you going to know how to uphold a relationship with a woman who wants you to be that man? A woman is not the answer to your life. I would focus on yourself first and really get set in stone with finances and what career you may want before you make the decision to take care of a woman, but if you wallow up your self-esteem and wonder why girls don't like you or whatever, then you're going to have a tougher time maintaining a potentially good relationship down the road.

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.


Nailed it.


Nailed what? His post is just old fashioned and backwards. Have your finance and career set in stone before entering a relationship? I hope that's some kind of terrible joke.

That`s definitely not what he meant. It`s about a sense of direction. Some people have it even while they are at school. The feeling you get when you know what you want, what you are and where you are going can`t be described in words. People talk about being comfortable with themselves - you can`t achieve that without knowing yourself.
Power of Ze
Heat_023
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada160 Posts
October 02 2013 13:01 GMT
#42
On October 02 2013 08:07 U_G_L_Y wrote:
Watch your replays, bro

Nice guys finish last. Your insecurity, your willingness to do whatever it takes, is exactly your problem.

You need confidence. I don't know how to help you acquire it, but that is what you lack.

Edit: Here's a suggestion to get rid of your pussy attitude:
Lift weights at least twice a week for a year. Like, do a real program, don't just half ass it;
12 sets of 10 reps for chest exercises (Bench press and flies, if you don't have a spotter, use a machine)
6 sets of 10 curls, (no swinging your back!)
6 sets of 10 triceps exercises (cable pulldowns, chair dips, overhead extensions, etc)

Do these with enough weight that you fail on or very near the 10th rep of each set. Drink a protein shake with 60g protein and 5 g creatine every day. If you are fat, stop drinking soda and eating cookies. If you are scrawny, eat until you are ready to puke, 5 times a day.

This will give you the confidence you lack. You will realize that you are an awesome person, and with that knowledge, you will have no problems getting girls.

If you want to stay in Gold league and continue to not make workers and get supply blocked because you aren't dedicated to achieving your goal, that's fine too.

Facepalm. You compare relationships or even life to the skills of a game. Life is no game, it has no static primary objective unless you set one. But in your case, even though you might be in the diamond league of "having big arms, having money and -getting- girls (but not keeping them)", I fully expect you to be a silver leaguer in "having a significant life, being in a loving relationship, having a creative existence". In fact you probably got demoted there once you figured out that confidence should be based on creatine intake, and that your main goal was to attract a sad girl looking for a douchebag.

To the op I will only say this : chill out, know yourself and love
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
October 02 2013 13:47 GMT
#43
On October 02 2013 07:24 IronManSC wrote:
It sounds to me like you are inclined from peer pressure to have a girlfriend because everyone else is dating and you feel like you're "falling behind." You're nearly 21 years old, you're still really young. What I've learned over the years is that you want to be at least somewhat settled first, but most importantly you want to be an independent man. That doesn't necessarily mean living on your own, but rather you make your own decisions with integrity and that you know what you're doing/pursuing in life. Focus on this first, because women love a guy who can take care of himself and keep himself busy, just like how men love a woman who can be independent.

The other thing is that high school and early college dating isn't generally the wisest path to go down. It works for some or many people, i'm sure, but for most not really. I dated 6 girls between sophomore year of high school and junior year of college, and none lasted longer than 8 months. Sweet girls, but they weren't for me. The maturity fluctuates a lot. It's not that you can't understand girls or vice versa at that level, it just means people are not really set in life, and to get involved in a relationship in those circumstances only adds to the stress. There's too much pressure from academics and other aspects of life and maturity that can conflict with your personal choices in a relationship. People still have growing up to do in the college life. The fact is, you won't understand women completely, be it 5 years of marriage or 30 years. Women won't understand men completely either.

The questions you need to ask yourself are can I take care of myself right now? and Do I know what I want to do in life?, and others like those. If you aren't fully confident in who you are or where you're headed in life (career-wise), then how are you going to know how to uphold a relationship with a woman who wants you to be that man? A woman is not the answer to your life. I would focus on yourself first and really get set in stone with finances and what career you may want before you make the decision to take care of a woman, but if you wallow up your self-esteem and wonder why girls don't like you or whatever, then you're going to have a tougher time maintaining a potentially good relationship down the road.

But, I am only speaking from particular experiences and people I know. Some do just fine if they date throughout college and get married afterwards. My only advice to you is to simply not worry about a relationship at this point and just focus on what you want to do in life. She'll come around naturally when the time is right.


I don't know man, I don't necessarily agree on all points. While this definitely rings true for a very very serious relationship (with few exceptions luckily I've been with my fiancee since I was 19 and couldn't be happier) I think the OP can look for a relationship and not be 100% serious about it. I mean he can go out for a couple dates and if its not working out or not the greatest cut it loose.

Try and enjoy yourself, if you want to go out with some girls, just ask your friends if there are any people they know that is looking to go out on a date. Might turn out you have fun and enjoy the date, if not oh well no harm
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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
October 02 2013 14:24 GMT
#44
I'm 23 and I haven't had a girlfriend (except for when I was too young to be interested in girls, I was a fucking player then). But feeling insecure about it such a waste of time, put that energy into growing other assets of your life.

TL:DR get ripped and at least have a 12 inch cock.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Awesomedrifter
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada62 Posts
October 02 2013 14:26 GMT
#45
On October 02 2013 22:01 Heat_023 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 08:07 U_G_L_Y wrote:
Watch your replays, bro

Nice guys finish last. Your insecurity, your willingness to do whatever it takes, is exactly your problem.

You need confidence. I don't know how to help you acquire it, but that is what you lack.

Edit: Here's a suggestion to get rid of your pussy attitude:
Lift weights at least twice a week for a year. Like, do a real program, don't just half ass it;
12 sets of 10 reps for chest exercises (Bench press and flies, if you don't have a spotter, use a machine)
6 sets of 10 curls, (no swinging your back!)
6 sets of 10 triceps exercises (cable pulldowns, chair dips, overhead extensions, etc)

Do these with enough weight that you fail on or very near the 10th rep of each set. Drink a protein shake with 60g protein and 5 g creatine every day. If you are fat, stop drinking soda and eating cookies. If you are scrawny, eat until you are ready to puke, 5 times a day.

This will give you the confidence you lack. You will realize that you are an awesome person, and with that knowledge, you will have no problems getting girls.

If you want to stay in Gold league and continue to not make workers and get supply blocked because you aren't dedicated to achieving your goal, that's fine too.

Facepalm. You compare relationships or even life to the skills of a game. Life is no game, it has no static primary objective unless you set one. But in your case, even though you might be in the diamond league of "having big arms, having money and -getting- girls (but not keeping them)", I fully expect you to be a silver leaguer in "having a significant life, being in a loving relationship, having a creative existence". In fact you probably got demoted there once you figured out that confidence should be based on creatine intake, and that your main goal was to attract a sad girl looking for a douchebag.

To the op I will only say this : chill out, know yourself and love


So open ended or sand box games aren't games either
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U_G_L_Y
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States516 Posts
October 02 2013 17:31 GMT
#46
On October 02 2013 22:01 Heat_023 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 08:07 U_G_L_Y wrote:
Watch your replays, bro

Nice guys finish last. Your insecurity, your willingness to do whatever it takes, is exactly your problem.

You need confidence. I don't know how to help you acquire it, but that is what you lack.

Edit: Here's a suggestion to get rid of your pussy attitude:
Lift weights at least twice a week for a year. Like, do a real program, don't just half ass it;
12 sets of 10 reps for chest exercises (Bench press and flies, if you don't have a spotter, use a machine)
6 sets of 10 curls, (no swinging your back!)
6 sets of 10 triceps exercises (cable pulldowns, chair dips, overhead extensions, etc)

Do these with enough weight that you fail on or very near the 10th rep of each set. Drink a protein shake with 60g protein and 5 g creatine every day. If you are fat, stop drinking soda and eating cookies. If you are scrawny, eat until you are ready to puke, 5 times a day.

This will give you the confidence you lack. You will realize that you are an awesome person, and with that knowledge, you will have no problems getting girls.

If you want to stay in Gold league and continue to not make workers and get supply blocked because you aren't dedicated to achieving your goal, that's fine too.

Facepalm. You compare relationships or even life to the skills of a game. Life is no game, it has no static primary objective unless you set one. But in your case, even though you might be in the diamond league of "having big arms, having money and -getting- girls (but not keeping them)", I fully expect you to be a silver leaguer in "having a significant life, being in a loving relationship, having a creative existence". In fact you probably got demoted there once you figured out that confidence should be based on creatine intake, and that your main goal was to attract a sad girl looking for a douchebag.

To the op I will only say this : chill out, know yourself and love

The OP stated his objective, and I told him how to achieve it.

I am married 10 years in June, and you are right, success in a relationship requires different behaviors than successfully initiating a relationship. I but almost no girl will respect someone that doesn't respect themselves, and you cannot love someone that you don't respect.
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
October 02 2013 17:58 GMT
#47
On October 03 2013 02:31 U_G_L_Y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 22:01 Heat_023 wrote:
On October 02 2013 08:07 U_G_L_Y wrote:
Watch your replays, bro

Nice guys finish last. Your insecurity, your willingness to do whatever it takes, is exactly your problem.

You need confidence. I don't know how to help you acquire it, but that is what you lack.

Edit: Here's a suggestion to get rid of your pussy attitude:
Lift weights at least twice a week for a year. Like, do a real program, don't just half ass it;
12 sets of 10 reps for chest exercises (Bench press and flies, if you don't have a spotter, use a machine)
6 sets of 10 curls, (no swinging your back!)
6 sets of 10 triceps exercises (cable pulldowns, chair dips, overhead extensions, etc)

Do these with enough weight that you fail on or very near the 10th rep of each set. Drink a protein shake with 60g protein and 5 g creatine every day. If you are fat, stop drinking soda and eating cookies. If you are scrawny, eat until you are ready to puke, 5 times a day.

This will give you the confidence you lack. You will realize that you are an awesome person, and with that knowledge, you will have no problems getting girls.

If you want to stay in Gold league and continue to not make workers and get supply blocked because you aren't dedicated to achieving your goal, that's fine too.

Facepalm. You compare relationships or even life to the skills of a game. Life is no game, it has no static primary objective unless you set one. But in your case, even though you might be in the diamond league of "having big arms, having money and -getting- girls (but not keeping them)", I fully expect you to be a silver leaguer in "having a significant life, being in a loving relationship, having a creative existence". In fact you probably got demoted there once you figured out that confidence should be based on creatine intake, and that your main goal was to attract a sad girl looking for a douchebag.

To the op I will only say this : chill out, know yourself and love

The OP stated his objective, and I told him how to achieve it.

I am married 10 years in June, and you are right, success in a relationship requires different behaviors than successfully initiating a relationship. I but almost no girl will respect someone that doesn't respect themselves, and you cannot love someone that you don't respect.


That is simply not true. Ever heard of unconditional love? I understand where you're coming from and I guess I'm just arguing semantics, but I would have worded that differently.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 02 2013 18:08 GMT
#48
i would advice against forcing a relationship just because you feel like you need to get a girlfriend now.
After a few months you will get very annoyed.


You will probably know it yourself when you meet a good fit.
peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
October 02 2013 18:26 GMT
#49
I constantly notice that the ones in my environment that are quick to have a relation, get married children at 18/20/22 etc. are usually the most unhappy people. I can't actually tell if it was their "must have to get a girlfriend and settle down" attitude or that they become bored earlier because their outlook on life's opportunities quickly lower, that got them into this state.

I.m.o.. It's better to talk more with girls of your age, without the sex or flirting, so that you know what the complete spectrum consists of so you can equip yourself with realistic expectations.
- One does not simply walk into a bar and start calling the shots.
- Failure doesn't mean you are a failure it just means you haven't succeeded yet.
U_G_L_Y
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:04:58
October 02 2013 19:57 GMT
#50
On October 03 2013 02:58 beachbeachy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 02:31 U_G_L_Y wrote:
On October 02 2013 22:01 Heat_023 wrote:
On October 02 2013 08:07 U_G_L_Y wrote:
Watch your replays, bro

Nice guys finish last. Your insecurity, your willingness to do whatever it takes, is exactly your problem.

You need confidence. I don't know how to help you acquire it, but that is what you lack.

Edit: Here's a suggestion to get rid of your pussy attitude:
Lift weights at least twice a week for a year. Like, do a real program, don't just half ass it;
12 sets of 10 reps for chest exercises (Bench press and flies, if you don't have a spotter, use a machine)
6 sets of 10 curls, (no swinging your back!)
6 sets of 10 triceps exercises (cable pulldowns, chair dips, overhead extensions, etc)

Do these with enough weight that you fail on or very near the 10th rep of each set. Drink a protein shake with 60g protein and 5 g creatine every day. If you are fat, stop drinking soda and eating cookies. If you are scrawny, eat until you are ready to puke, 5 times a day.

This will give you the confidence you lack. You will realize that you are an awesome person, and with that knowledge, you will have no problems getting girls.

If you want to stay in Gold league and continue to not make workers and get supply blocked because you aren't dedicated to achieving your goal, that's fine too.

Facepalm. You compare relationships or even life to the skills of a game. Life is no game, it has no static primary objective unless you set one. But in your case, even though you might be in the diamond league of "having big arms, having money and -getting- girls (but not keeping them)", I fully expect you to be a silver leaguer in "having a significant life, being in a loving relationship, having a creative existence". In fact you probably got demoted there once you figured out that confidence should be based on creatine intake, and that your main goal was to attract a sad girl looking for a douchebag.

To the op I will only say this : chill out, know yourself and love

The OP stated his objective, and I told him how to achieve it.

I am married 10 years in June, and you are right, success in a relationship requires different behaviors than successfully initiating a relationship. I but almost no girl will respect someone that doesn't respect themselves, and you cannot love someone that you don't respect.


That is simply not true. Ever heard of unconditional love? I understand where you're coming from and I guess I'm just arguing semantics, but I would have worded that differently.

How do you suppose you would develop unconditional love for a person without first have love born of respect?

The love I have for my children is much greater than when they were infants because I now know who they are and what makes them special. Love will always be finite/conditional in the beginning.

I should have said that you cannot *fall in love* with someone you don't respect.
Heat_023
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada160 Posts
October 02 2013 20:10 GMT
#51
On October 03 2013 02:31 U_G_L_Y wrote:
The OP stated his objective, and I told him how to achieve it.

I am married 10 years in June, and you are right, success in a relationship requires different behaviors than successfully initiating a relationship. I but almost no girl will respect someone that doesn't respect themselves, and you cannot love someone that you don't respect.

Sorry for being mean, and thank you for the intelligent response.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 02 2013 20:11 GMT
#52
On October 03 2013 03:08 LaNague wrote:
i would advice against forcing a relationship just because you feel like you need to get a girlfriend now.
After a few months you will get very annoyed.


You will probably know it yourself when you meet a good fit.

Unconditional love is a myth for the most part. Maybe some mothers are afflicted but I assume you that there are many things that can be done to destroy a presumably "unconditional" love.

If your love for your girlfriend is "unconditional" and you don't respect her, then perhaps the both of you are a little bit fucked up anyway.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 02 2013 20:28 GMT
#53
I feel like people pressure themselves too much. A relationship, in my experience, shouldn't be seen as achievements to unlock nor should one consider a girlfriend a goal to reach. Stop putting so much pressure on yourself and things might come a little easier. Might.
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 21:28:38
October 02 2013 21:24 GMT
#54
I'm 23, I haven't had a girl friend either. I have had girls I have sorta pursued in my college career. But things would happen and they wouldn't work out. There is one girl that I have a crush on forever, that I finally told I like her a lot, but it is a relationship that took a really long time to build up. We went through, I know you exist in high school, to friends, to best friends....to ??? well that remains to be seen haha. The point is, finding a girl isn't that easy it takes time and patience. And maybe you have to improve yourself. Do you look gross? do you dress like you don't care? Girls will pick up on that. So don't worry about it, but if there is an opertunity with a girl don't miss out on it.
U_G_L_Y
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 22:33:22
October 02 2013 22:32 GMT
#55
On October 03 2013 05:10 Heat_023 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 02:31 U_G_L_Y wrote:
The OP stated his objective, and I told him how to achieve it.

I am married 10 years in June, and you are right, success in a relationship requires different behaviors than successfully initiating a relationship. I but almost no girl will respect someone that doesn't respect themselves, and you cannot love someone that you don't respect.

Sorry for being mean, and thank you for the intelligent response.

It was a reasonable response on your part, I'm not offended at all.

I was being a dick to the OP for his benefit, but you would have no way of knowing that I'm not always a dick
v1dom
Profile Joined August 2010
159 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 23:45:09
October 02 2013 23:40 GMT
#56
Changed my mind about replying.
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nputich
Profile Joined October 2013
United States1 Post
October 04 2013 00:59 GMT
#57
It's funny I was the same way. I am very short, and not that pretty, but I learned Spanish and met several people in El Salvador. I now help people who consider themselves unattractive find a relationship. You seem a decent guy. Feel free to message me before doing anything drastic. I feel so much better now that I have a loving wife in my life.
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CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
October 04 2013 06:21 GMT
#58
On October 03 2013 02:31 U_G_L_Y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 22:01 Heat_023 wrote:
On October 02 2013 08:07 U_G_L_Y wrote:
Watch your replays, bro

Nice guys finish last. Your insecurity, your willingness to do whatever it takes, is exactly your problem.

You need confidence. I don't know how to help you acquire it, but that is what you lack.

Edit: Here's a suggestion to get rid of your pussy attitude:
Lift weights at least twice a week for a year. Like, do a real program, don't just half ass it;
12 sets of 10 reps for chest exercises (Bench press and flies, if you don't have a spotter, use a machine)
6 sets of 10 curls, (no swinging your back!)
6 sets of 10 triceps exercises (cable pulldowns, chair dips, overhead extensions, etc)

Do these with enough weight that you fail on or very near the 10th rep of each set. Drink a protein shake with 60g protein and 5 g creatine every day. If you are fat, stop drinking soda and eating cookies. If you are scrawny, eat until you are ready to puke, 5 times a day.

This will give you the confidence you lack. You will realize that you are an awesome person, and with that knowledge, you will have no problems getting girls.

If you want to stay in Gold league and continue to not make workers and get supply blocked because you aren't dedicated to achieving your goal, that's fine too.

Facepalm. You compare relationships or even life to the skills of a game. Life is no game, it has no static primary objective unless you set one. But in your case, even though you might be in the diamond league of "having big arms, having money and -getting- girls (but not keeping them)", I fully expect you to be a silver leaguer in "having a significant life, being in a loving relationship, having a creative existence". In fact you probably got demoted there once you figured out that confidence should be based on creatine intake, and that your main goal was to attract a sad girl looking for a douchebag.

To the op I will only say this : chill out, know yourself and love

The OP stated his objective, and I told him how to achieve it.

I am married 10 years in June, and you are right, success in a relationship requires different behaviors than successfully initiating a relationship. I but almost no girl will respect someone that doesn't respect themselves, and you cannot love someone that you don't respect.


This reminds me a bit of a quote from the movie Airplane:

"Don't you feel anything for me at all anymore?"

"It takes so many things to make love last. Most of all, it takes respect. And I can't live with a man I don't respect.

Force staff is the best item in the game.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 08:06:09
October 04 2013 08:04 GMT
#59
I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one. Relationships are nice. Just having a fwb is nice. Girls are nice to have around in general. Doesn't mean you have to commit to girlfriends or having a girlfriend. Just ... live co-ed ??? It's pretty easy...
Fucked up love is the best love btw.
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Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 11:27:23
October 04 2013 11:25 GMT
#60
This is the kind of attitude I honestly hate. Let me help you.

No girl has ever had you.

Correct phrasing is everything. It's not your weak point. It's theirs. Poor girls.

Now lets see what you could do to help them. Since maybe there is a girl or two somewhere around you worth it dating. And having sex with. Evaluating your hobbies and how you spend your free time is a good start. Clubs, communities etc., where you can meet many different girls and maybe find some who are worth it.

Also, what Zealously said:


I feel like people pressure themselves too much. A relationship, in my experience, shouldn't be seen as achievements to unlock nor should one consider a girlfriend a goal to reach
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
October 04 2013 12:00 GMT
#61
in the back mirror, when you have had your first sex (and yes, it will happen eventually) and girlfriend, it will not seem like a huge deal that you make it out to be. so take a breathe, and take it slow. let things happen naturally and find another virgin girl that you really like (and potentially can love) and slowly take it from there. i say virgin girl, because although it will be very awkward/difficult in the beginning since boht of you are inexperienced, in case you end up really loving her, you won't feel bad about you being a virgin and she having had other guys in the past (that can really sting if you care for her).
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EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
October 04 2013 16:11 GMT
#62
His choice of diction and just overall wording really made me lol.

It's ok bro, my advice for you is to stop thinking about sex and it will happen. When you try too hard girls get turned off, trust me on this one.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
October 04 2013 16:40 GMT
#63
On October 05 2013 01:11 EngrishTeacher wrote:
His choice of diction and just overall wording really made me lol.

It's ok bro, my advice for you is to stop thinking about sex and it will happen. When you try too hard girls get turned off, trust me on this one.


lol I don't try at all and as a result nothing has happened - which is fine because I actually just don't care.

So that's my advice to OP, rather than focusing on satisfying your desires, instead, try not having desires. You'll feel a lot more fulfilled.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
October 05 2013 13:56 GMT
#64
Maybe you are gay, I mean... not that there's anything wrong with that, I mean... just saying.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
October 05 2013 15:58 GMT
#65
I was going to defend you but
On October 02 2013 06:23 JonIrenicus wrote:
The problem is that, looking into my relationships, I don't know what I did wrong. I've tried my luck with 4 girls in my life, and I succedeed with two. Well partially succedeed. I mean that I was able to achieve the "kiss" status (forgive me for the use of the words), but I wasn't able to push it further. With both.


I can't tell if you mean to imply that "further" mean sexual progression over the other progressions of an actual relationship. If you adhere to the former, I think I found your problem.
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Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
October 05 2013 16:59 GMT
#66
On October 06 2013 00:58 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
I was going to defend you but
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 06:23 JonIrenicus wrote:
The problem is that, looking into my relationships, I don't know what I did wrong. I've tried my luck with 4 girls in my life, and I succedeed with two. Well partially succedeed. I mean that I was able to achieve the "kiss" status (forgive me for the use of the words), but I wasn't able to push it further. With both.


I can't tell if you mean to imply that "further" mean sexual progression over the other progressions of an actual relationship. If you adhere to the former, I think I found your problem.


I think the only thing he has done "wrong" is that he thinks he has failed in some way because of his lack of experience sexually with women. Telling yourself you have fucked it up instead of telling yourself maybe it just wasn't the right time for you and those women puts a lot of weight on YOU. There is nothing wrong with where you are at. Just keep doing your thing and life will happen around you before you even know it.
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
October 06 2013 16:58 GMT
#67
On October 02 2013 18:24 peacenl wrote:
T_T OP is seriously misguided, I fear this is true for a large group of young adults. You don't unlock something called a girlfriend or sex like it's an achievement, you come accross someone you like and do fun things with them. The harder you try, the more desperate you get, the less likely you are to get a girl. My advice is to try and go to places you like (such as sports or hobbies), and hopefully there are girls there you can meet.

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