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LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
September 12 2013 12:37 GMT
#21
You are absolutely clueless...
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
AnYvia
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria474 Posts
September 12 2013 12:47 GMT
#22
I stopped reading at the first point. 1/5
Flash / MVP / Seed / Leenock / DRG / Life
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
September 12 2013 13:05 GMT
#23
On September 12 2013 21:47 AnYvia wrote:
I stopped reading at the first point. 1/5

I will counterbalance like Tobberoth.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
September 12 2013 13:37 GMT
#24
On September 12 2013 15:25 vindKtiv wrote:
1.) Stop being such an elitist bastard
Oh you are Gold V in LoL? That's pretty cool. Oh you are 1000PP on AE? Well, PP doesn't mean anything, but that's pretty cool too. Oh you are Rank 1 Gold in your league on HotS? Get the fuck out of here noob, your opinion isn't shit until you hit high Masters.

Not sure if that's supposed to be internally ironic.

2.) Stop being so anti-social
Twitch chat and forums are cool and all, but the real community building events almost always happen in local meet ups. You are definitely going to be more involved in a game if you are surrounded by people who are as well. One silver lining in fighting games is that online play will always be less than optimal due to lag, therefore local meet ups happen all the time. Another good thing about local meet ups? You won't be getting BM'd in real life anywhere near the amount you are BM'd on ladder. Start a BarCraft. Why the hell are they only in the select cities? With the amount of SC2 fans, they should be in every major city for every event. It's possible, but only if you aren't afraid to take initiative.

Also, while we are on this topic, remembering to put on deoderant at events would be nice.

There are plenty of sports fans who have only really ever watched it on their home television and discussed with a few friends. What's this shit about having to socialize around stuff we're passionate about? And plus, what's with telling people to 'stop being so anti-social'? Fuck off x_x

Just do your thangs, people.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
September 12 2013 15:39 GMT
#25
Does anybody remember that Leave Brittany alone video?

Someone needs to remake that for Blizzard.
Emperor? Boxer disapproves. He's building bunkers at your mom's house even as you're reading this.
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
September 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#26
On September 12 2013 19:33 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 18:53 thezanursic wrote:
On September 12 2013 18:39 beesinyoface wrote:
On September 12 2013 17:58 rebdomine wrote:
On September 12 2013 16:41 Cyx. wrote:
Also, PLAY MORE GODDAMN TEAM GAMES PEOPLE. If you don't have friends then pick some random person off ladder who talked a lot when you played together. They're FUN. Maybe they don't make you a better player, maybe they won't let you 'practice', maybe they don't get you ladder points, but like... fuck.


This.

Back when I was playing BW, my friends stopped after I started stomping them every game. None of them were too keen to study the game the way I wanted to.

I made friends with random people I met who talked a lot after gg'ing out. Discussing what he tried to do, asking what I did, etc.

People playing 1v1 games can be nicer than you think.

Try it out. Try to talk to your opponents. If you feel somebody outplayed you, tip your hat to 'em, ask them for practice. Ask them what they saw in your play, why they did things they did. I've done it in BW, in Pokemon NetBattle when it existed, and in SC2 when I dabbled in it a year or so ago.

If people love the game, they'd be happy to discuss it with you. What makes games fun are playing them with friends. If you enjoy SC2, there's a high chance that your ladder opponent might also enjoy the game. I personally don't anymore so I stopped playing it, but my opinion of SC2 isn't the point here.

I think people sometimes get too caught up on the whole competitive aspect of games and forget about the reason why games were made in the first place: A way to have fun.

Sure you may be an aspiring pro, but you need a way to unwind sometimes and having a friend around who might want to mess around in team games or UMS maps are a good way of taking out the stress of really trying hard to improve your overall game.

SC2 wasn't built and designed to be a "fun" game to play when you hit higher level of skills. Dota (for example) still has a certain level of excitement to it because you aren't managing multiple things at the same time like you are in Dota. Having to both macro and micro constantly throughout 30 minutes isn't fun; but, people get "fun" and "satisfaction" after spending 30 brutal minutes giving it their best and coming out on top.

At least, that's what I think.



Winning a 40 minute game in BW is equivalent to having an orgasm.


This.

SC2 is just not that good of a game and that is were ultimately all the problems come from. While in other games the social aspect can make up for this, there is next to no social aspect in SC2 (also thanks to late implementation of chatchannels and generally "awesome" Bnet0.2).


Allways when i hear FCG community i tend to think: "There is Evo and a whole lot of nothing?"



Yeah I think the main problem with SC2 is that it is not fun enough. I can't just "play the game" if I don't enjoy it. But maybe I will take the "play the game" advise and play BW instead, when I forget about eSports and just want to play a really fun and competitive game I always think of BW.
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
September 12 2013 16:38 GMT
#27
I always cringe when casters look awkward in suits. Sure, if they can pull it off that's great, but it just looks really odd some of the time. Which is why I like the GDstudio so much.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 19:40:53
September 12 2013 19:39 GMT
#28
On September 12 2013 17:56 PineapplePizza wrote:
Blizzard is responsible for most of the problems with SC2. The community is just fine, it's just that the forums tend to be used for rage venting quite a bit.

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 16:27 FakeDouble wrote:
uhh, what is FGC? Fighting game competitions?

I get confused when people use acronyms they assume other people know (but I dont)


Fighting Game Community. I don't see the acronym often, but the phrase is used constantly.


FGC isn't an acronym, its an abbreviation. An acronym is when you pronounce the initials as a word, like NASA. FGC is said as three seperate letters. Knowledge bomb dropped, sorry but its really starting to get to me when people don't know that an acronym is not just an abbreviation but a specific type ;p

on topic, I'm pretty sure everything in the OP has been said before, many times on many forums. Unfortunately, it just doesn't work... you are asking a core of players aged 14-25 to take responsibility for themselves.... not gonna happen. They have parents to do that for them!
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 12 2013 23:14 GMT
#29
Personally, I blame Garena 100%, but I'm only mid-masters, so I don't think my opinion quite counts yet.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
SupplyBlockedTV
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Belgium313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 00:02:44
September 12 2013 23:57 GMT
#30
Dunno, OP has some good points.

I used to play sc2 alot. I even got to a point that i even managed to take games from famous pro players that i looked up to alot. That was great, but once you are at that point, you realise how far the gap between you and them is. Yea, i could mess up some brackets (as some asshole once called it, FU btw if you read this), but not more then that. For me it wasnt fun anymore, practicing the same set of builds over and over again to perfection, it became very dull and boring.

So what was left? Trying to build a name for yourself? dedicate your life to starcraft and just go for it? Fact simply is, you cannot make a decent living from starcraft. Even pro players that get paid to play starcraft live on a minimum wage, while playing with insane pressure to deliver to often unrealistic expectations. (i also think many people are giving up because its to hard to get into the sc2 pro circuit, you still see the same names from 3 years ago, nearly no newcomers to the pro circuit, with a few rare exceptions)

Its honestly more fun to play counter strike with some friends, you can joke around on your mic, you never know exactly what will happen in the game, unlike starcraft, which really has no dynamic anymore once you know the game.

Honestly, starcraft should be about cheese strategies (yea you will hate me for this) but its awesome to see a really good player pull something hard off that just looks fucking awesome to viewers. I dont want to watch 30min cluster fucks, i find watching a cannon rush, or cloaked banshee rush much more intresting. Starcraft should be more about really funky strategies, doing crazy things that require alot of skill, that is what will keep viewers intrested, not dull macro games.

And i think blizzard lost sight on that trying to balance everything out to much and putting the focus more towards the lategame.
PEW PEW PEW
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 13 2013 01:02 GMT
#31
On September 13 2013 08:57 SupplyBlockedTV wrote:
Dunno, OP has some good points.

I used to play sc2 alot. I even got to a point that i even managed to take games from famous pro players that i looked up to alot. That was great, but once you are at that point, you realise how far the gap between you and them is. Yea, i could mess up some brackets (as some asshole once called it, FU btw if you read this), but not more then that. For me it wasnt fun anymore, practicing the same set of builds over and over again to perfection, it became very dull and boring.

So what was left? Trying to build a name for yourself? dedicate your life to starcraft and just go for it? Fact simply is, you cannot make a decent living from starcraft. Even pro players that get paid to play starcraft live on a minimum wage, while playing with insane pressure to deliver to often unrealistic expectations. (i also think many people are giving up because its to hard to get into the sc2 pro circuit, you still see the same names from 3 years ago, nearly no newcomers to the pro circuit, with a few rare exceptions)

Its honestly more fun to play counter strike with some friends, you can joke around on your mic, you never know exactly what will happen in the game, unlike starcraft, which really has no dynamic anymore once you know the game.

Honestly, starcraft should be about cheese strategies (yea you will hate me for this) but its awesome to see a really good player pull something hard off that just looks fucking awesome to viewers. I dont want to watch 30min cluster fucks, i find watching a cannon rush, or cloaked banshee rush much more intresting. Starcraft should be more about really funky strategies, doing crazy things that require alot of skill, that is what will keep viewers intrested, not dull macro games.

And i think blizzard lost sight on that trying to balance everything out to much and putting the focus more towards the lategame.


I actually could not agree more.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
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