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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 18:25:54
August 28 2013 18:20 GMT
#81
awesome blog thanks for sharing your thoughts
i know the feeling eventhough in a quite unrelated field ^^

keep going i hope you will get to a point where you can make the changes you want eventually - gl

edit: wow i am stunned noone has quoted nerchio's comment yet in this whole thread...
gj tl I honestly expected different reactions ^^
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 00:59:57
August 28 2013 18:20 GMT
#82
I was really impressed by your ace victory in SC2L. I thought for sure Liquid would have Hero come in and clean house. But they were worried about Oz's masterful PvP messing that up, so they chose you. And you won handily. Maybe it will take more practicing in Korea to get past this wall, but in the meantime, maybe the only problem is that you're expecting too much out of yourself.

Besides, Suppy is getting really damn good with his muta timings.
"I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
August 28 2013 18:39 GMT
#83
Very nice post Snute!

You have found out what you love to do and at the same time that you are so good at it, it allows you to do so full time. This is a major achievement in life, not only for you but for all the progamers here! For that you can always be proud and more importantly perhaps, when doubt or frustration kicks in, grateful.

When I get frustrated with my work (this happens to us all I'm sure) it is almost always because of the stupid bureaucracy that keeps the organization I work for as a hostage. I love what I do, but sometimes when I'm fuming or getting the blues, I really have to remind me of the fact that I do have a great job and that I must be grateful of that. I have a job I love to go to. Not everyone can say that. You can! Be sure to enjoy it to the fullest while you're at it, because you can't enjoy it later!

I imagine learning builds and participate in tournaments can be a bit like learning new pieces for piano for a concert. My wife is a pianist, so I have some insights from an amateurs point of view. Take piano chamber music for example. You sit alone with your scores (or your build) and finally you nail it. But then you have to play with other musicians (or practice partners, ladder etc) and pay attention to what they are doing. That is where it gets really interesting, where you have to adapt and find the right rhythm, dynamic and improvise to make it work. Of course, as the highlight, it is time for the concert (or tournament) on the big stage. I have seen my wife's friends suffering from stage fright and my heart went out to them. I know how many hours of practice that went into it, and then the performance in the end was not what they hoped for.

I can imagine that a good sports coach can help you focusing on the right stuff (mentally as well as tactically) before tournaments and during practice, and, very importantly, get you through times of doubt. Your own writing might help with the latter as well! I wish you best luck and I hope to see you in many tournaments to come!

All the best!



Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
holistic
Profile Joined June 2013
United States21 Posts
August 28 2013 18:45 GMT
#84
Jens,

Meditation (observing without attachment)

DDR at a high level teaches you to be present for this exact moment, arrow by arrow, and connects you with both breath, your body's movements, and also has an emotional/spiritual element. Yoga is the evolution of that practice, and is synergistic with starcraft. It allows you a daily opportunity to reach your personal limitations and surpass them, and through breath, connect you with the present moment. It is a much needed spiritual outlet and will help you have better health, mental clarity, and spiritual awareness.

Eat heathfully - fresh, local, non pesticide fruits & veggies (kale shakes in particular), and white meat/fish help to give you the nutrition to help your brain and body be successful

Steps to Mastery
1. Discover your calling
2. Submit to reality
3. Absorb the Master's power
4. See people as they are
5. Awaken the dimensional mind
6. Fuse the intuitive with the rational


Use these principles to help you accomplish your goals, and connect with the divine within you.
You are your own hero. Live it.

Snute fighting!
sns3rsam
Profile Joined September 2012
United States138 Posts
August 28 2013 18:47 GMT
#85
GL Liquid'Snute! I always cheered for you once you won HSC! Hope you will be able to overcome the wall that you hit and that you will wow us next season!
"Every Terran same to me... uhhhh ezpz" -DRG // When Life gives you banelings...
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
August 28 2013 18:58 GMT
#86
As the aligulac PR-guy I have to say that your improvement over the last year looks quite impressive. And I have looked at a LOT of player graphs.

Keep on keeping on. Everyone has downs, it's how you cope with downs that define you and make you grow as a player and a human.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
August 28 2013 19:04 GMT
#87
gl snute, great blog and made me get alot of respect for you.

the only thing i would be able to advice you after being in the same sitation with my own life is to just feel the emotions and face them by being true to yourself and just feel them. not by trying to force yourself to be happy.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
August 28 2013 19:06 GMT
#88
Keep stepping over dead bodies, just keep going, keep fighting for what you believe. That is all.
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
HeavyCross
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada21 Posts
August 28 2013 19:22 GMT
#89
Snute, true fan here. Will always love and cheer for you. xoxoxoxo
Loddigesia
Profile Joined April 2010
247 Posts
August 28 2013 19:24 GMT
#90
thanks for sharing, interesting read.
hope it goes better for you soon!
aka gorfou
Ambre
Profile Joined July 2011
France416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 19:24:50
August 28 2013 19:24 GMT
#91
Man, I have the greatest admiration for people as dedicated as you.

You've got a new fan Good luck.
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self." - Aldous Huxley
m0lder
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway6 Posts
August 28 2013 19:40 GMT
#92
Well put Snute I'm delighted to know you still enjoy the game and follow your passion. Not everyone have realized what their passions are at your age, and I'm truly happy for you I still try to find games you play every day and follow you the best I can on the net. As a fellow Norwegian I feel proud that you have reached this far coming from a small community, and you've definitely not failed us. You've won! And you can keep playing for as long as you want as long as you have passion. And as a nice person, you make every one of us proud :D
You can take the gamer out of the game, but you can't take the game out of the gamer
Galathea
Profile Joined August 2012
France14 Posts
August 28 2013 19:44 GMT
#93
That was extremly interesting to read. At some point, you aren't really that much responsible for what happends to you. You should tell yourself, that when you win, you did your best probably as much as when you lost. Feel grateful for what happened to you and never forget that anyway nothing is fair in this world, a fate is nothing about maths and logic, it's about having the good things at the right moment, it can be money, family support, friends, health.. As long as the world is made of people like you who try their best, everything is going well.

Also, since it's a game, if you feel like your results and/or your enjoyment for the time spent on it leads you to a depression, think about university etc, because it's never a bad decision to study!

Btw to avoid stress, you can try these :
_The sadism way of play, you are trying hard to not miss your injects etc and you are thinking to "x" thing you hate and that the best you play the harder this x is in pain. Have a devil smile while doing it.
_Rely on the maths, when executing a build orders that is truly safe and leads to critical things you know about, it feels safer, so when you loose it's less because of stress.

I practice a lot, many persons are in the shadows of the sc2 scene but don't succeed. Good luck for your future events!
Fameislame
Profile Joined August 2013
Norway2 Posts
August 28 2013 19:49 GMT
#94
Nerchio, I think You're a little sad because Snute is doing better than you, Snute recently won RedBull TrainingGrounds. You're team had a chance to win a tourtmant But you and your team lost.
Split.
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland234 Posts
August 28 2013 19:51 GMT
#95
Good blog. Maybe this will help you: in Starcraft there is always a winner and a loser. Always. No matter how good the players are, no matter how much they practiced, one of them is going to lose. Look at a, say, 64 player tournament. 63 players won't win it. The nature of Starcraft (and similiar sports of course) limits the space at the top.
The issue is not only with yourself and the way you practice. There is no definite way that guarantees to reach the top. If there were, everybody capable of it would do it and everybody would succeed, which is (as I already said) impossible in Starcraft.

Writing this with hesitation, I also think you should lower your expectations. Why should you out of all the players be successful, and not somebody else? Of course you can reverse this question, but the point is, naturally, some players win and others lose. It's just a side you necessarily fall on. And looking at your achievements, you had a good share of wins.

And about other players (mostly koreans) being simply better than you: that's the same in every field. There is always somebody better than you. What do you expect? To be so good to cast a shadow on everybody else and be at the very top? If you think about the very best player: there is only one. In the whole goddamn world.
Reading this myself it sounds a bit harsh, but that's not my intention. I just think that "hanging around" as professional player is all that you can hope for. If more happens, take it, but to actually expect something beyond it is a bit unrealistic especially in a tough competitive sport like Starcraft.

Losing to players practicing way less than you is a different story though. Even though there is a good chance that they have the stephano-gene and are just naturally better than you. Which is something that simply happens.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
August 28 2013 19:51 GMT
#96
thanks for writing this snute
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
August 28 2013 19:59 GMT
#97
As someone who was in a depression for years and sure took me longer then Snute to start heading in the right direction the thing that made all the difference to me was to realize that the only competition is with myself. That has been something I have heard and thought I understood for years but when what that truly means clicked it started a change in me, and when you start to look at the champions of the world most of them have this mentality. It really doesn't matter if someone else is better then you or if you're the best in the world, as long as you challenge yourself and look to improve yourself in anyway, you will head in the right direction in life automatically.

When winning and losing becomes pointless it doesn't, in my experience, lower the drive to improve and succeed but it comes from a place within myself rather then from outside sources.
KarneEspada
Profile Joined May 2011
United States72 Posts
August 28 2013 19:59 GMT
#98
You can do it Snute! I'm glad you shared, it always helps to write your thoughts down.
KespadA, UC Irvine
budar
Profile Joined February 2011
175 Posts
August 28 2013 20:17 GMT
#99
Not much to say except I'm cheering for you whenever you enter a tournament. You're one of those rare people in this "business" that I want so badly to be happy and succeed, whatever your definition of that might be.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 28 2013 20:46 GMT
#100
That was an amazing read, thank you so much for posting this.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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