EPTEDIT: Let me make this a typical post:
Blah blah blah life blah blah blah mindset blah blah blah practice
I reccomend this good read [insert book here]
Snute already gets enough moral support, he just needs to hear it!
Losing in Challenger as a full-time player - Page 4
| Blogs > Liquid`Snute |
|
DinosaurPoop
687 Posts
EDIT: Let me make this a typical post: Blah blah blah life blah blah blah mindset blah blah blah practice I reccomend this good read [insert book here] Snute already gets enough moral support, he just needs to hear it! | ||
|
joukainen
Norway19 Posts
| ||
|
metzninja
New Zealand626 Posts
My angle? Over the last seven years (I'm 23) I have let depression and my negative mindset stunt any attempts to persevere with anything or anyone important to me. I've made and am making some big changes (moving country to be with my girlfriend, starting a new course for a new career etc) but these won't matter much if my mindset isn't strong enough. You have sacrificed a lot to be where you are, you are doing something challenging and scary, but you are persevering. Know this: what you are doing inspires me, and others, because you are committing to your passion through all the tough times. | ||
|
_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
I could make exactly the same post about your play and it wouldn't be any less relevant. You mass roach yourself. Every zerg does. Literally every top zerg. Many top terrans go bio in all match ups. What do you say to them? Your post just sounds bitter because snute is winning against you with heavy roach play like 80% or more. | ||
|
chuckboris
56 Posts
A small note on the guy who "probably plays 2 hours a day". Of course it is possible that he plays less and still won. You know that's how ladder is, and he doesn't have your body of success. You might not view your past in starcraft like that, a body of succes, but you should know that others do. You have already succeeded, you really have. There are other successes to be had and it is not bad to hunger for them. But that guy who plays less and still beat you can be either of two categories. Either he is also applying himself to something right now, maybe he is studying, maybe he has another project. Or he isn't. he might not really be applying himself or really trying to do anything at all. If he does have a goal in his life, then he is going through the same shit you are, and you can remember this when you play against him. He is then like you are, when you take a break from the endless hours of SC2 practice. His mind is fresh and he feels free from his own daily burden. No wonder he can win, you are fighting from a position chained and burdened by all the expectation from yourself and others. He is just taking a break. This is a huge advantage. 99% of the time it is not enough of an advantage, because that is all of the players on ladder than you never face, but indeed in a small group of people they are good enough to be your practice, but not good enough to be you. And you should be happy about that! This huge bulk of people who are nearly as good as the pro's are clearly vital for your practice. I just read a heap of stuff about cholesterol studies maybe 800 pages of dense material. Right now i know more about cholesterol in the bloodstream, than my doctor brother-in-law. I know for a fact that he couldn't get past some similar material. He said "How the fuck did you read that in a few days. I struggled with something like that for a week" And then he laughed it off - because i didn't do this during a 7 year education of endless tedious study of the same kind. I did it as a breake to my own life and it flew into my brain without any difficulty, after every line i just wanted to know the next. Who is going to care about that? It also wont stick half as well to me over time, because i don't have his huge system of medical contextual knowledge to insert it into. Well, if you ever make a decision that you are going to do something bigger with your life, than just reading one single book on a subject. Then i think you are going to have to force yourself at some point. You can't maintain the same open and hungry mind, although you have proven to be able to do so much more than most. With the ability to identify something like the stagnation in your own progress, like you have shown here, comes all that shit on top. You can't be good as seeing your mistakes without them weighing heavy on you. I obviously know you can go further if you want to. That you can go to the end if you want to. But remember that you already succeeded at this point. Of course, there is much more success to be had if you go forward. | ||
|
EuroRabbit
United States39 Posts
 Bring some Earl Grey and maple cookies along as well. It would work wonders for many programmers who struggle with stress. | ||
|
Kibbelz
United States31 Posts
Hey Jens, I can only imagine what you must be going through when you experience these heartbreaking periods of time; but I think through posting this stream of consciousness... you gave a really good picture into not only who you are, as a person who is a pro-gamer, but also what the struggles you go through feel like. One thing in particular that you said stood out: "Most of the times it's imaginary hate that just appears out of nothing, but it's there, and it is kind of interesting. And some times, you can take it very very seriously, no matter how ridicilous it sounds." I wonder how strongly this particular statement resonated within you. Was it an accurate summary of how you feel? You did say 'Most of the times'. If so.. this sounds exactly like the kind of thing which meditation would help you not necessarily combat, but understand. At its core, Meditation is just about getting to know the nature of your mind. It will give you incredible emotional stability as you begin to understand why you feel the things & ways you feel. It's important to meditate with healthy goals though. One does not meditate to 'fix' problems, but to understand why they occur, and why we react the way we do; the benefits from this are just a side-effect of coming to wholly understand your mind. Not sure if this jumps out as appealing to you; if it does though, don't hesitate to message me. I'd absolutely love to give you some starting points or answer any questions you might have. Other than that, I'd just like to say to you.. thanks for being willing to express all the love you have for this game against the adversities you undoubtedly face. Keep on fighting man. Pergé *small word choice edit | ||
|
HaarReed
3 Posts
"When you realize how perfect everything is, you will tilt your head back and laugh at the sky." ~ Buddha | ||
|
FLUFFNSTUFF
United States51 Posts
| ||
|
uberxD
412 Posts
At my work people do expect some level of answers, work, analysis, etc. from me, since I've a university degree. But nowadays, people come to me and ask 2+2 and I answer fish, not good, not good at all. This happens multiple times so people are like "you aren't doing your job well" and obviously I don't blame them, they are right. The thing is, the pro-player loosing at a Challenger Leage against a person who plays SC2 2 hours a day, compared to a full time gamer of 12 hours, is just not acceptable. It can't happen. Just as a Analyst that answer tomato to 2+2 questions. I'll print this and read it again, over and over, to try to wake me up and start answering in my work (and life) as I'm suposed to... I'm not fucking Hawkins but I can give more at my job for sure. I guess, that some people like me, only react when we hit the floor. Thanks for the post, it really came to me when I needed it the most, I hope I can make good use of it. | ||
|
RuiBarbO
United States1340 Posts
| ||
|
isospeedrix
United States215 Posts
Also your english is very good! | ||
|
aMEkaRmy
Canada633 Posts
Keep it up man, You're still improving lots and still have a huge passion for the game even if it's over clouded with sadness. You've come a long way in just a years time, When we were in MoW together and you qualified for IPL 4, You were so happy, and excited, it made the mood of the entire house great. Everyone wanted to party and celebrate for you because we knew how hard you had worked for it. So fast forward only a few months when you won HSC. You improved from a player that practises hard and "only" (I say this lightly because it's still a huge achievement) qualifies to a tournament to being a champion. I know you'll get around any slumps you find yourself in, You'll get over this and improve. I believe in you and have seen it first hand. Keep it up buddy, You're doing great. | ||
|
thOr6136
Slovenia1775 Posts
So how does one reach that awareness and presence of mind in every in-game second, exactly? Hmm, i was also thinking about that for a while. How to improve awareness? Being aware of every single moment in the game. Having a completely empty mind, not a single thought breaking the flow of what it is (= game). How to achieve that state of mind? Meditation? Also i want you to read this, for me personally this is the greatest quote i know of. Your mentality (on the plateau thingy) is very similar to what Bruce Lee thinks. I admire that. Bruce had me up to three miles a day, really at a good pace. We’d run the three miles in twenty-one or twenty-tow minutes. Just under eight minutes a mile [Note: when running on his own in 1968, Lee would get his time down to six-and-a-half minutes per mile]. So this morning he said to me “We’re going to go five.” I said, “Bruce, I can’t go five. I’m a helluva lot older than you are, and I can’t do five.” He said, “When we get to three, we’ll shift gears and it’s only two more and you’ll do it.” I said “Okay, hell, I’ll go for it.” So we get to three, we go into the fourth mile and I’m okay for three or four minutes, and then I really begin to give out. I’m tired, my heart’s pounding, I can’t go any more and so I say to him, “Bruce if I run any more,” — and we’re still running — “if I run any more I’m liable to have a heart attack and die.” He said, “Then die.” It made me so mad that I went the full five miles. Afterward I went to the shower and then I wanted to talk to him about it. I said, you know, “Why did you say that?” He said, “Because you might as well be dead. Seriously, if you always put limits on what you can do, physical or anything else, it’ll spread over into the rest of your life. It’ll spread into your work, into your morality, into your entire being. There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level.” All fixed set patterns are incapable of adaptability or pliability. The truth is outside of all fixed patterns. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.” I also believe having 0 doubts in everything you do is the way to go. Having 0 doubts that you will break your plateau. 0 doubts that you will succeed.Every negative thought should be swept away, not interrupting you at any moment. But having this mentality is really really hard. I don't know how one can think like that every single moment of his life. | ||
|
JohnHarr
United States375 Posts
All I can say is that unlike most people (myself included), you have pushed to be the best at something that you love to do. Compared to others, you have put all your heart and soul into something. To me, you are an inspiration, someone to emulate! Although hitting a skill ceiling takes a lot out of your motivation, keep pushing through! We are all behind you! Snute fighting:D | ||
Noam
Israel2209 Posts
| ||
|
DinosaurPoop
687 Posts
| ||
|
Carbonyl
United States334 Posts
On August 28 2013 23:57 SaWse wrote: It feels like depression is very common in progaming. Probably in every competitive sport. When the St. Louis Rams went 1-16 or whatever it was, you think they weren't depressed too? There's so much pressure. And even then, football is a team sport. Starcraft is very much a solo sport, everything has to come from within. Kind of like running! 90% mental. | ||
|
StarStruck
25339 Posts
| ||
|
Poo
Canada536 Posts
| ||
| ||
