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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
June 19 2013 20:23 GMT
#61
Hm, this list reminds me, what happened to Moon? Does he still play SC2?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 19 2013 20:26 GMT
#62
I'm pretty sure the guy that managed his stream thread said Moon is only playing WC3 now since leaving Fnatic.
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acie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States247 Posts
June 19 2013 20:34 GMT
#63
cruncher was Human btw, 90% sure naama was orc

Anyways I thought I'd just mention that I think Kas was an fast improving player/close to becoming a top player near the end of wc3 before sc2 came out, or at least becoming one of euro's top players.
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
June 19 2013 20:36 GMT
#64
The good days. Warcraft III to me was what Brood War was to most people here. That was the game I played all through high school and the first few years after graduation until WoL beta, with a few breaks for WoW here and there.

I hope and hope and hope that some day Warcraft IV will happen, and that it will come out before I turn 30.
Team SCV Life #1
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 20:38:39
June 19 2013 20:36 GMT
#65
ThomasG was very decent (NE), he is now known as CupCake and decent as well (see aligulac)
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
ATiBright
Profile Joined August 2011
59 Posts
June 19 2013 20:47 GMT
#66
Pretty certain Thorzain invented the tower Mk Gryphons strategy vs Orc, the first time we saw it was in WC3L where he defeated Who, Lyn, and Focus with it.

Also remind won a total of 4 battle.net ladder seasons, and had more zotac cup victories by a mile then any other player in wc3 history, his accomplishment list should be much longer, and almost anyone involved in Warcraft 3 would place him around 5th.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
June 19 2013 20:53 GMT
#67
On June 20 2013 05:47 ATiBright wrote:
Pretty certain Thorzain invented the tower Mk Gryphons strategy vs Orc, the first time we saw it was in WC3L where he defeated Who, Lyn, and Focus with it.

Also remind won a total of 4 battle.net ladder seasons, and had more zotac cup victories by a mile then any other player in wc3 history, his accomplishment list should be much longer, and almost anyone involved in Warcraft 3 would place him around 5th.

None of the statements in your post are true. The accomplishments only include world championships and not minor $100 Zotac cups, other minor tournaments, or team leagues. Otherwise, every player's accomplishments would be a mile long.
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 21:16:35
June 19 2013 21:15 GMT
#68
On June 20 2013 03:50 teapot wrote:
WC3 has a richer history than is represented by the WC3 players who transitioned to SC2. Still it is interesting. It looks to me that the EU SC2 scene is built quite substantially on the foundations of the EU WC3 scene, which itself was built on the BW scene (madfrog, didi8, tillerman) most of the early WC3 RoC top players were most likely Blizzard veterans from BW and WC2. Basically this is Blizzard's "Goodwill" era, which they have been squandering ever since.

What I think is more interesting is; where is the new blood in the foreign scene?
Pretty funny how there always is a way to bash blizzard, even in a blog like this one.
If bashing blizzard was a city, it'd be in Italy.
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
June 19 2013 21:22 GMT
#69
So many big UD names missing on this list! TeD, FoV, Sweet, Space?? Well... UD did always get the shaft in that game..
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
June 19 2013 21:34 GMT
#70
so many memories, WC3 will always be my favorite game ^_^

Zacard was the first progamer I admired (back in 2005 iirc)
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 19 2013 21:59 GMT
#71
On June 20 2013 06:22 ShivaN wrote:
So many big UD names missing on this list! TeD, FoV, Sweet, Space?? Well... UD did always get the shaft in that game..


oh god, i love how 50% of the ppl commenting on rankings NEVER read anything the OP wrote besides the number and the name.

so sad to deal with this every month^^
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
June 19 2013 22:00 GMT
#72
On June 20 2013 06:22 ShivaN wrote:
So many big UD names missing on this list! TeD, FoV, Sweet, Space?? Well... UD did always get the shaft in that game..

ONLY PLAYERS WHO PLAY/PLAYED SC2

Jesus people, reading is a useful skill toi have.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
June 19 2013 22:01 GMT
#73
On June 20 2013 06:59 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 06:22 ShivaN wrote:
So many big UD names missing on this list! TeD, FoV, Sweet, Space?? Well... UD did always get the shaft in that game..


oh god, i love how 50% of the ppl commenting on rankings NEVER read anything the OP wrote besides the number and the name.

so sad to deal with this every month^^

I feel your pain.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 19 2013 22:02 GMT
#74
On June 20 2013 05:23 Draconicfire wrote:
Hm, this list reminds me, what happened to Moon? Does he still play SC2?


wife, children. he never played sc2 as fulltime as wc3. he tried for a brief period of time, but not becoming one of the best rapidly probably made him stop.
still a dreamhack champion in my heart (sry HuK, that thaldarim wasnt the thaldarim you 2 were supposed to play - dat 3 building wall made you win dreamhack :O)
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 22:20:46
June 19 2013 22:13 GMT
#75
Susiria is another name that comes to mind. Also aether - x, survivor, didi8, crazyassassin, apex-x, elakeduck, intox, bjarke, kain-the-feared.. just to name a few oldschoolers.
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
June 19 2013 22:27 GMT
#76
On June 20 2013 04:31 Awesomeness wrote:
Sonkie played some sc2 in the beta, he even has a liquipedia page:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sonkie

He was pretty good in wc3, should be the best rated US player here at least.


Well LongWalk is the best US player ever, he consistently did better then any other US player, sadly he grew out of video games. He post on WCReplays from time to time still.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 23:49:40
June 19 2013 23:46 GMT
#77
On June 19 2013 18:36 Arceus wrote:
Ima back your nostalgic blog with some judgement and trivia (not bashing by any mean )

- Moon: 3-0 rigged orc, dominate with broken hand, perfect the gayest strat, 10-0 FoCuS race-switch, had all the best ID & nickname etc etc
- Grubby: basetrade, basetrade & basetrade, write emo linkin park blog for excuse & tons of lame shit I cant recall
- Sky: got raped in WEGs, won WCG the same year, won another WCG by watching GoStop's replay
- Lyn: win 200000 InCups before raising to prominence with WE
- Infi: shameless tower masser
- MaD]Q[FroG: signed with Sonokong FrienZ, won some teamleague, voted mvp on MBC
- LucifroN: strictly race abuser and nothing else
- SocceR: actually oldschool (Rhapsody[Pooh] on Kalimdor), played great every once in a while and won nothing
- Check: dubbed the "Fever Blood", the most fearsome Korean in RoC & early TFT, won back-2-back OGN leagues, still top20 for the remaining of TFT career
- Violet: from WeRRa, decent BattleNet orc who went on to be a race abuser
- XlorD: known as sexLord when hes good & Shitlord when hes not. kicked out from SK/SK.de for some incident I cant recall
- miou: the inferior German human counterpart of Spell (who was the best german player ever)
- Ciara: decent WC3L player for his time at mYm.dk and MYM, more known for his relationship with JacziE the famous caster
- Polt (HU): went to the 2nd round of MWL (a rebirth-MBC PL), played some WC3L as well and then disappeared
- SeleCT: YECA-->SK.kr-->Warhammer-->TmG-->Warhammer again

Some others:
- Myth: he tried out some Open Seasons under Prime. The dude mastered the second gayest strat ever invented aka human massing expos with towers and killing with tanks (Moon was the very first victim)
- Rainbow: tried out Open Seasons under LiberoPrime. Fastest wc3 ever with 400-500apm in 50 mins games. Dubbed the bandit-human for wearing a bandit-like headband.
- GoStop: Moon's sweet sweet next-door best friend. Dubbed the Nerubian King for being the first effective fiend user with style (screw PhilBot). Tried out Open Season but failed
- DayFly: play a lot during beta & early WoL. The most legendary Korean imo. He didnt only dominate RoC, early TFT but also unveiled the map scandal and brought Warcraft to China. Oh and he dated Cassandra before Grubby xD

did I miss anyone :p



FreeDom.WeRRa : Extremely hyped NE with very strong mirror matchup and weak NE vs UD, who kept eliminating Moon during his prime from WCG/ESWC korea qualifiers. He played in the GSL open season 2 I think. He was the most hyped during 2005-2006 season in wc3 (IIRC)

MakaPrime : Amateur wc3 player. Played as A.One)Townhall, and even participated in WC3L for one season I think. Best achievement was Code S RO8.

I'll post more if I remember.

Envy fan since NTH.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
June 19 2013 23:54 GMT
#78
On June 20 2013 07:27 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 04:31 Awesomeness wrote:
Sonkie played some sc2 in the beta, he even has a liquipedia page:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sonkie

He was pretty good in wc3, should be the best rated US player here at least.


Well LongWalk is the best US player ever, he consistently did better then any other US player, sadly he grew out of video games. He post on WCReplays from time to time still.


In terms of pure achievements, you have to put ShortRound above LongWalk Even Wizard was a better player IMO. Of course its hard to compare since they played in different time periods, but I would rate a 2nd place and 4th place in WCG grand finals over most other achievements.

http://www.sk-gaming.com/player/1182-Shortround

Don't think any American player can match that.
Envy fan since NTH.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 00:36:27
June 20 2013 00:35 GMT
#79
On June 20 2013 07:00 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 06:22 ShivaN wrote:
So many big UD names missing on this list! TeD, FoV, Sweet, Space?? Well... UD did always get the shaft in that game..

ONLY PLAYERS WHO PLAY/PLAYED SC2

Jesus people, reading is a useful skill toi have.

I don't understand why monk would arbitrarily pick out only the players that dabbled in SC2 for a WC3 power rank, given that half of them have already retired from SC2 or play in total obscurity. By that logic one could also add TeD and FoV for most likely having played some SC2 ladder games at some point in their life.

I think monk was just anxious to write more power ranks, it must be addictive.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
June 20 2013 01:58 GMT
#80
Anyone else disappointed when they see a player was into WC3 instead of BW? I feel like that game took so much less skill that I respect the players less when I find out that's where they came from, naniwa and lucifron included.

Sort of like if you find out your favourite cs:go player started in CS:S instead of CS1.6

I never followed WC3 but I did follow BW, maybe its just me.
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