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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 00:06:52
June 19 2013 01:48 GMT
#1
TL has its roots in BW and most of its users are familiar with the BW scene. However, many of the professional players playing SC2 today, including most of the top foreigners, come from WC3 roots. Here is an attempt to bridge that gap of knowledge and another opportunity for you guys to argue among yourselves over a Power Rank.

  • This power rank only includes players who dabbled in SC2 and mostly serves to give an idea of how good the top players today were in WC3. The most notable players who never tried to switch include: Fly, TH000, Ted, Lucifer, Fov, Sweet, Reign, SoJu, Zacard, Insomnia, Deadman, and HoT.
  • Note that I'm ranking mostly based on overall achievements. Players will get bonus points points for being in the scene longer. Ranking based on other criteria would result in different placements, especially for the top players.


Unofficial TL WC3 Power Rank

1. Grubby(O)/Moon(NE)/Sky(H)
There is no question that these three players are the best of their respective regions (Europe/Korea/China). However, there is consistent debate as to which of these players is the best and I'm not going to fuel that fire. Instead, I'll list each player's merits and have you decide.

Grubby was always the face of foreign Warcraft III. He dominated foreign WC3 and was always considered the best foreigner since 2004 when he won WCG over Zacard. Since then, he's won multiple WCGs, ESWCs, and Blizzcons, the most successful player in tournaments that aren't hosting in Korea or China. Grubby slumped around 2007, a time when he and other Orcs were having trouble with NE and especially Human. He eventually rebounded though and was considered the best out of the big three at the end of WC3. When asked about who he thinks is the best player of all time, Grubby simply calmly states that he has been the most consistent of the three over the longest period of time. To his credit, this is true as even though Grubby had his slumps, he never sank as low as the other two. The opposite argument is that he arguably was never as dominant as the other two. Playstyle-wise, Grubby was one of the smartest players, often winning games that many thought were unwinnable. WC3 played to Grubby's strengths in this way because it was a game that had a lot of potential decisions and allowed for comebacks.

Achievements
  • 1st Cyber X Gaming
  • 1st WCG 2004
  • 1st ESWC 2005
  • 1st Blizzcon 2005
  • 3rd WCG 2005
  • 2nd Blizzard WWI 2006
  • 2nd WEG Masters
  • 3rd KODE5
  • 1st WSVG 2006
  • 3rd BNet Season IV
  • 4th WSVG China
  • 3rd ESWC 2007
  • 3rd Battle.Net Season V (BlizzCon)
  • 3rd Blizzard WWI 2008
  • 3rd World e-Sports Masters
  • 1st WCG 2008
  • 1st e-Stars Seoul 2009 Kotg
  • 2nd Battle.Net Season VII (BlizzCon)
  • 2nd NGL-ONE Season 6
  • 2nd e-Stars Seoul 2010 Kotg
  • 4th BNet Season VIII (BlizzCon)
  • 2nd WCG 2010
Moon probably had the highest peak out of all three players. He dominated tournaments in Korea before either Grubby or Sky made a mark onto the scene. He famously had 16 map winning streak in WEG, winning the first one without dropping a single map using seemingly troll strategies along the way. Some examples include charming one of Tod's peasants and killing him with Human units or using all glaive thrower strategies. He was always one of the top three players in the world until the end of WC3 and around 2007, he would almost always meet Sky in tournaments, the winner usually taking the title. However, Moon slumped fairly hard near the end of WC3 when he stopped being the absolute favorite in tournaments.

Achievements
  • 1st WEG1
  • 1st WEG2
  • 4th WEG Masters
  • 1st IEST
  • 1st Game-X
  • 1st WSVG China
  • 4th Blizzard WWI 2007
  • 3rd WCG 2007
  • 1st PGL2
  • 2nd PGL3
  • 4th World e-Sports Masters
  • 2nd WCG 2008
  • 1st IEST 2008
  • 4th e-Stars Seoul 2009 Kotg
  • 1st NGL-ONE Season 6
  • 1st e-Stars Seoul 2010 Kotg
  • 3rd BNet Season VIII (BlizzCon)
  • 2nd ESWC 2010
  • 1st IEST 2011

Sky entered the scene relatively late compared to the other two players, but he made an incredible splash when he won 2005. Since then, he has been akin to Boxer in China, i.e. the face of Chinese esports. In the game, he revolutionized and standardized every Human matchup with the help of his Chinese Human counterparts, Infi and TH000. These include:
  • Tier 1 harass, mercenaries, and Panda in HvH
  • Tower pushes and expo to mass gryphon in HvO
  • Mass tank/flying machine in HvU
  • 1 base pushes, mass tank/flying machine, and 2 base pushes in HvNE
His Human vs Human was so good(71%) that other Chinese Humans always offraced as Night Elf to face him. After Tod quit, Human vs Human basically became a non-existent matchup in the pro scene. Like Moon however, he slumped near the end of WC3 where other humans such as TH000 and Infi overtook him. Today, he coaches the World Elite LoL/Dota team.

Achievements
  • 3rd WEG 1
  • 1st ACON 5
  • 4th ESWC 2005
  • 1st WCG 2005
  • 3rd WEG Masters
  • 1st PGL I
  • 3rd ESWC 2006
  • 1st WCG 2006
  • 2nd IEST 2006
  • 2nd WSVG China
  • 3rd/4th Blizzard WWI 2007
  • 2nd WCG 2007
  • 2nd PGL II
  • 3rd PGL III
  • 2nd ESWC 2008
  • 2nd IEST 2008
  • 2nd PGL IV
  • 1st PGL Championship Challenge
  • 2nd WCG 2011

4. Lyn(O)
Lyn is undoubtedly the second best Korean ever. He had played during the beginning of TFT, notably losing to Moon in a finals. Then he fell off the radar for a while(he might have briefly quit) before he came back with a vengeance. From 2007 onward, he was consistently one of the top players and probably better than Grubby overall except for a few short periods. He had exceptional micro and contributed the addition of spirit walkers to Orc vs Undead.

Achievements
  • 4th ESWC 2007
  • 2nd Blizzard WWI 2008
  • 1st BNet Season VI (BlizzCon)
  • 2nd World e-Sports Masters
  • 2nd e-Stars Seoul 2009 Kotg
  • 1st BNet Season VII (BlizzCon)
  • 3rd WCG 2009
  • 3rd NGL-ONE Season 6
  • 3rd e-Stars Seoul 2010 Kotg
  • 2nd ESWC 2010
  • 3rd WCG 2010
  • 2nd IEST 2011
  • 1st WCG 2011

5. Tod(H)
Tod was definitively the second best European player, but always took a backseat to Grubby, especially when they were on 4K together. Tod is the face of European humans, adopting a more classical style of human compared to the more modern style of Chinese humans. Tod's biggest accomplishment is perhaps that he won the most prestigious WC3 tournament ever, WEG Masters. He trained in both Korean and China, but quit the game about a year before SC2 was released due to not enjoying it anymore.

Achievements
  • 4th ESWC 2003
  • 3rd WCG 2004
  • 3rd Blizzcon 2007
  • 2nd CIG 2005
  • 2nd World e-Sports Festival
  • 2nd KODE5
  • 2nd WCG 2006
  • 4th BNet Season IV
  • 1st Blizzard WWI 2007
  • 3rd IEST 2008

6. Infi(H)
Infi was seen as Sky's younger sibling as they were on the same team and shared strategies. His most defining trait was his usage of towers, whether defensively or offensively. It was not uncommon for to see an Infi game with over 100 towers built. At the end of WC3, he surpassed Sky in skill.

Achievements
  • 1st KODE5
  • 1st World e-Sports Masters
  • 4th IESF 2008
  • 3rd/4th PGL IV
  • 1st WCG 2009
  • 2nd IESF 2009
  • 2nd BNet Season VIII (BlizzCon)
  • 1st IESF 2010
  • 3rd IESF 2011

7. Remind(NE)
Remind had excellent micro and would have been one of the greats had he not been so terrible against Undead early in his career. Then one day, he suddenly figured the matchup out and started realized his potential. Ever since 2007, he had gradually been getting better and he peaked near the end of WC3 and was considered one of the best, if not the best, in the world when he won WCG 2010 over Grubby. He was also part of the best 2v2 team ever in WC3 with SoJu where he played his offrace, Orc

Achievements
  • 2nd ACON 5
  • 4th CIG
  • 1st BNet Season IV
  • 2nd BNet Season V (BlizzCon)
  • 1st BNet Season VIII (BlizzCon)
  • 3rd ESWC 2010
  • 1st WCG 2010

8. Creolophus(NE)
Creolophus was a prodigy who shares many characteristics with Snute and Stephano. Like Snute, he is a charismatic Norwegian. Likewise, he shares even more with Stephano:
  • They're both intelligent player, often aiming to outsmart their opponents with efficiency.
  • Both are nearly undefeated against Grubby(Creo was completely undefeated against him after joining 4k)
  • Most importantly, they quit(or plan to quite) the game near their respective peaks.
However, after quitting the game for a few months, he qualified for WCG and after a few days of training, went on to win the whole thing, beating heavy favorite Sky in the finals in perhaps the biggest upset in WC3 history.

Achievements
  • 2nd ESWC 2007
  • 1st BNet Season V (BlizzCon)
  • 1st WCG 2007

8.5 Madfrog(U)
Madfrog is difficult to place, because although he was one of the most successful players and a WC3 legend, he quit the game before WC3 competition really took off. He mostly famously popularized gargoyle harass in NE, a cornerstone of the matchup until late in WC3.

Achievements
  • 2nd ESWC 2003
  • 1st Blizzard WWI 2004
  • 2nd ESWC 2004

9. Lucifron(O)
WC3 was often regarded as a old boy's club as very few players could break into the scene. Lucifron was one of the only two players, along with Violet, who accomplished this. However, unfortunately many discredit him for abusing Orc, similar to how the SC2 scene calls WoL Zergs patchzergs.

Achievements
  • 2nd BNet Season VI (BlizzCon)

10. Soccer(NE)
Aka SlayerS_Ven, Soccer was one of the best players near the end of WC3. He was especially known for his NE vs Human and his Warden usage in all matchups. Because he was on MYM and then WMF with Moon, he was often referred to as mini-Moon.

Achievements
  • 3rd BNet Season VII (BlizzCon)
  • 2nd KODE5

11. GoStop(U)
Called the Nerubian King for his successful usage of crypt fiends. Almost beat Moon 2-3 in WEG2. He quit in 2007.

Achievements
  • 2nd WEG III
  • 2nd WEG II

12. Check(NE)
Check has been around forever in the WC3 scene, and though he has always been relevant, he was always considered mediocre for a Korean late into his career. He's also known for his relatively low APM for a Korean. He switched to Orc for a brief period during early WC3.

Achievements
  • 4th PGL I
  • 4th BNet Season VI (BlizzCon)
  • 4th PGL Championship Challenge

13. Focus(O)
One of the better Korean players, Focus was consistently relevant starting from when he started playing in 2007, but never surpassed the Korean greats in tournaments. He won a lot of Zotac cups though. He tried SC2 for one GSL season but returned back to China to play WC3. He still plays WC3 to this day I believe.

Achievements
  • 4th NGL-ONE Season 6

14. Violet(O)
Like Lucifron, Violet is the other player who really broke into the scene late into the game and did quite well online. Because of his Korean heritage however, he very rarely got to go overseas because of the difficulty of qualifying for offline tournaments via Korean qualifiers.

15. Happy(U)
Happy is mainly known for two things:
  • He had good micro and extremely high APM.
  • He only ever had four strategies total, one against each race. As such, he is probably the most predictable player in all of esports.
Besides that, he was the third best foreigner at the end of WC3, after only Grubby and Lucifron. He was also a bit BM and was on EG with Grubby.

Achievements
  • 3rd BNet Season VI (BlizzCon)
  • 3rd WCG 2008
  • 4th WCG 2009
  • 4th e-Stars Seoul 2010 Kotg
  • 4th ESWC 2010

16. SaSe(NE)
SaSe lived in China for a very long time to train and almost always reached the top 16 of tournaments. He was certainly capable of beating anyone, but has never won an international tournament.

Achievements
  • 4th World e-Sports Festival

17. xiaoT(O)
Once the second best Chinese player after Sky, xiaoT's results eventually fell off and he quit the game. His OvO was especially weak in a time when Orc was doing well. He promised to returned in SC2 and dominate, but he quickly gave up on that as well.

Achievements
  • 4th PGL II

18. Xlord(U)
Hands down, the best German player in WC3. He was restricted from competing in EPS tournaments early on because of his young age. Also known for being BM, something his teammate, miou, once famously complained about.

19. Demuslim(H)
A promising player who joined 4k right before it collapsed. After that, he seemed to disappear from the scene.

20. Satiini(NE)
A curious NE who never went to lans because he had a fear of traveling.

21. Hasuobs(U)
Another great German player. He had some epic games versus Moon with mass gargoyles.

Achievements
  • 4th KODE 5

21. miou(H)
Yet another great German who dominated EPS before Xlord was allowed to play.
Achievements
  • 4th ACON 5

(Around this point, it gets a bit arbitrary. I'm still trying to list in relative skill though.)

ThorZaiN(H): Started quite late and was getting good near the end of WC3

Macsed(NE): Was consistently overshadowed by other Chinese players and was probably better than this ranking suggests.

Rotterdam(O): Known for using Farseer when everyone used Blademaster. Also known for being good at OvO and sometimes qualifying over Grubby in Dutch qualifiers.

Ciara(O): Known for being recruited onto EG so they could have a third player to play team leagues with.

Titan(NE): One of the better Russians near the end of WC3

Nightend(U): An underrated Undead player.

Vortix(U): Was way overshadowed by his brother. However, in interviews, Lucifron stated that Vortix had a better win ratio against him than any other Undead in the world.

Kas(H): Known for getting into semifinals of online cups

Elfiittaja(U): A decent Undead.

Targa(NE): Honestly don't remember much

Naama(?): Was the brother of another WC3 player, Sein. Otherwise, don't remember much.

Kiwikaki(O):: Probably the second best player from North America near the end of WC3, overshadowed only by Nilknarf.

Naniwa(U): Known more for BM than skill

Stephano(H): I can't recall any major accomplishments, but he did go to LANs and went a bit far into cups.

SjoW(H): Known for being a part of the best 2v2 team with Delicato in early WC3.

Bly4eg(U): Mostly online player

Cruncher(U): One of the better North Americans near the end of WC3

Moonglade(NE): A night elf. Possibly higher, I don't remember much.

Take(H): I just remember it being funny that he was on the same team as a player named tak3r.

Axslav(R): Known for his 2v2 team with Strifeco. They both massed huntresses and consistently beat all other top teams which consisted of top 1v1 players. Played random in WC3.

Strifeco(NE): see Axslav


Outliers

Polt(?): Qualified for Korean MBC Prime League in 2005-2006, but never made it very deep at all. He was restricted by school and didn't play full-time.

Select(NE): Did well on Korean ladder but never made huge accomplishments and only played for a short period of time.
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RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
June 19 2013 01:51 GMT
#2
Upvoted
I <3 StarCraft.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
June 19 2013 01:52 GMT
#3
Thanks for the write-up Monk, really interesting as a non-WC3 player to see the connections it had to SC2.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 19 2013 01:57 GMT
#4
Holy shit, been awhile since I saw these names (: You brought a tear to my eye (5/5).

fuck nightelves, MadFrog 4 lyfe.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
June 19 2013 01:58 GMT
#5
On June 19 2013 10:51 RemarK wrote:
Upvoted


I second that motion
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
June 19 2013 09:02 GMT
#6
No mention to FoCuS?
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
theonlyking
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany18 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 09:11:18
June 19 2013 09:08 GMT
#7
great effort!
But it's pretty far off from an in-depth analysis, you are missing quite a lot of players that were siginificant figures in WarCraft 3 history. For example FoV, who was considered the best undead in the world for a long period of time. His ghoul micro was unmatched and he also won ESWC.
Esportsearnings provides somewhat of an overview:
http://www.esportsearnings.com/games/8/warcraft_iii
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 09:22:25
June 19 2013 09:11 GMT
#8
Definitely my favourite blog now! XlorD really was a beast, he won 3 eps in a row and went 15-0 or 14-1 in one season, no one could touch him. He also played even series against koreans like Moon etc., but I feel you forgot an important german player that carried the hopes of Germany at the end of wc3 and that is Yaws.



Edit: Ah damn Yaws never really went into sc2 so he doesn't fit this ranking I guess, sorry :D.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Max2Air
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany92 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 09:20:30
June 19 2013 09:18 GMT
#9
The good ol times :D I fondly remember the German Trio of Miou, Take and Tak3er.
Mass Defensive Tower Miou,
Standart Take,
and cheeky towerrush Tak3er (I believe he found for example the towerspot on plunder isle that made this map a bitch to play on :D)

Thanks for the writeup :D

€: But wasnt Take on SK while Tak3er was on mTw?

€2:
On June 19 2013 18:08 theonlyking wrote:
great effort!
But it's pretty far off from an in-depth analysis, you are missing quite a lot of players that were siginificant figures in WarCraft 3 history. For example FoV, [...]


I think the Op wanted to focus on WC3 players that are known in the SC2 scene aswell (hence why he left out my hero Tak3er)
If you are reading this you are awesome.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51447 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 09:20:27
June 19 2013 09:18 GMT
#10
(P)xiaOt did switch to SC2, but retired to manage iG's SC2 division (no idea if he still is).
Focus also played one season of GSL (first open) under the ID of (P)BEV.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 19 2013 09:18 GMT
#11
aka
wouldn't i.e. be more appropriate?

Or is he actually known as
the face of Chinese esports
? o.0

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry for being rude, aka/i.e. mixups really irk me.


Cool blog, when I played WC3 I knew nothing of esports, TL or even tactics, also kind of insane to see how many current SC2 players used to play WC3.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 19 2013 09:27 GMT
#12
So sad I never came into contact with E sports when I was younger. I played a shitton of wc3 but I never thought of the idea of watching pro players back then. Or to visit a forum...
I had a good night of sleep.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
June 19 2013 09:30 GMT
#13
Dayfly #1 wc3 player ever, the early days <3
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 09:43:19
June 19 2013 09:36 GMT
#14
Ima back your nostalgic blog with some judgement and trivia (not bashing by any mean )

- Moon: 3-0 rigged orc, dominate with broken hand, perfect the gayest strat, 10-0 FoCuS race-switch, had all the best ID & nickname etc etc
- Grubby: basetrade, basetrade & basetrade, write emo linkin park blog for excuse & tons of lame shit I cant recall
- Sky: got raped in WEGs, won WCG the same year, won another WCG by watching GoStop's replay
- Lyn: win 200000 InCups before raising to prominence with WE
- Infi: shameless tower masser
- MaD]Q[FroG: signed with Sonokong FrienZ, won some teamleague, voted mvp on MBC
- LucifroN: strictly race abuser and nothing else
- SocceR: actually oldschool (Rhapsody[Pooh] on Kalimdor), played great every once in a while and won nothing
- Check: dubbed the "Fever Blood", the most fearsome Korean in RoC & early TFT, won back-2-back OGN leagues, still top20 for the remaining of TFT career
- Violet: from WeRRa, decent BattleNet orc who went on to be a race abuser
- XlorD: known as sexLord when hes good & Shitlord when hes not. kicked out from SK/SK.de for some incident I cant recall
- miou: the inferior German human counterpart of Spell (who was the best german player ever)
- Ciara: decent WC3L player for his time at mYm.dk and MYM, more known for his relationship with JacziE the famous caster
- Polt (HU): went to the 2nd round of MWL (a rebirth-MBC PL), played some WC3L as well and then disappeared
- SeleCT: YECA-->SK.kr-->Warhammer-->TmG-->Warhammer again

Some others:
- Myth: he tried out some Open Seasons under Prime. The dude mastered the second gayest strat ever invented aka human massing expos with towers and killing with tanks (Moon was the very first victim)
- Rainbow: tried out Open Seasons under LiberoPrime. Fastest wc3 ever with 400-500apm in 50 mins games. Dubbed the bandit-human for wearing a bandit-like headband.
- GoStop: Moon's sweet sweet next-door best friend. Dubbed the Nerubian King for being the first effective fiend user with style (screw PhilBot). Tried out Open Season but failed
- DayFly: play a lot during beta & early WoL. The most legendary Korean imo. He didnt only dominate RoC, early TFT but also unveiled the map scandal and brought Warcraft to China. Oh and he dated Cassandra before Grubby xD

did I miss anyone :p
Cauldron
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland125 Posts
June 19 2013 09:39 GMT
#15
Nice stuff and a great memories!
Also Naama used to play orc and was a higly ranked ladder player before switching to SC2.
All I know about Polts WC3 career is that he used to play human
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 09:56:58
June 19 2013 09:56 GMT
#16
I remember hearing a rumor on chinese forums about when Th000 first came into the scene, that sky had found him, played him in like 4 games where th000 offraced HvO, HvU and HvN than HvH and th000 won 3 or 4 of the games. At first i was kinda...riiiight... but soon after he was freaken amazing (my eyes best Hu player, he still plays on ggc), especially with his offrace hes unbelievably strong with offraces.
Plus i love his crazy Hu vs Ud builds, 1 base lumber mill rax tech into hawks....like WHAT the fuck lol (he won that game too) too bad he gets made fun of because of his name lololol 000 hahaha >.<
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
June 19 2013 10:04 GMT
#17
Spirit_Moon is like Slayers_Boxer.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
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June 19 2013 10:53 GMT
#18
On June 19 2013 19:04 Grumbels wrote:
Spirit_Moon is like Slayers_Boxer.


The Boxer of WC3. But in terms of general popularity in Korea - not even close. While literally everyone knows the name 'Im Yo-hwan', and some maybe 'Lee Yoon-yeol', a small minority recognized 'Jang Jae-ho'.
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fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 11:01:26
June 19 2013 10:54 GMT
#19
nice a WC3 power rank.
but unfortunately not really objective at that.

Grubby (even tied at 1) > Lyn and ToD top 5? as much as i like ToD and Grubby, but this is just not true. Grubby < Fly100% and Lyn. especially Fly100% (and Xiaot too) has a really good record against Grubby (and Moon) in the big Tournaments.
Xiaot and Fly100% is even missing in the list at all.
also, worst mistake ever with a WC3 list: where are the UDs? especially where is Sweet and Fov? Madfrog is listed yet the most influental and best playing UDs are missing? also there are WAY worse UDs listed and those two missing, but having an Xlord on the list makes it pretty much invalid.
"newer" players like TH000 are also missing.

edit: just read the first part about only listing sc2 players. don't agree with this. and why is remind listed then? he clearly said he will never switch. or creolophus...
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 11:24:07
June 19 2013 11:13 GMT
#20
On June 19 2013 18:18 GTR wrote:
(P)xiaOt did switch to SC2, but retired to manage iG's SC2 division (no idea if he still is).
Focus also played one season of GSL (first open) under the ID of (P)BEV.

Cool, I'll add them in.

On June 19 2013 18:08 theonlyking wrote:
great effort!
But it's pretty far off from an in-depth analysis, you are missing quite a lot of players that were siginificant figures in WarCraft 3 history. For example FoV, who was considered the best undead in the world for a long period of time. His ghoul micro was unmatched and he also won ESWC.
Esportsearnings provides somewhat of an overview:
http://www.esportsearnings.com/games/8/warcraft_iii

Only sc2 players or sc2 related players

On June 19 2013 19:54 fleeze wrote:
nice a WC3 power rank.
but unfortunately not really objective at that.

Grubby (even tied at 1) > Lyn and ToD top 5? as much as i like ToD and Grubby, but this is just not true. Grubby < Fly100% and Lyn. especially Fly100% (and Xiaot too) has a really good record against Grubby (and Moon) in the big Tournaments.
Xiaot and Fly100% is even missing in the list at all.
also, worst mistake ever with a WC3 list: where are the UDs? especially where is Sweet and Fov? Madfrog is listed yet the most influental and best playing UDs are missing? also there are WAY worse UDs listed and those two missing, but having an Xlord on the list makes it pretty much invalid.
"newer" players like TH000 are also missing.

edit: just read the first part about only listing sc2 players. don't agree with this. and why is remind listed then? he clearly said he will never switch. or creolophus...

Most people you ask would rank moon/sky/grubby 1/2/3 in some order. Remind tried to qualify for GSL one time and there was a big deal about it. Creolophus coached a SC2 team. Listing non sc2 players would make it even more confusing.
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